RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Cary Millsap
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces The _only_ even theoretical advantage to software RAID-0 is that software RAID implementations tend to have more flexibility than

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Jared . Still
/13/2003 05:14 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Yes and no - its a semantical issue. If you want to grow a Veritas volume with the RAID under hardware control

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Mladen Gogala
of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces The _only_ even theoretical advantage to software RAID-0 is that software RAID implementations tend to have more flexibility than the hardware ones. For example, there are a number of software RAID implementations

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Zito
://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Tim, Are you suggesting that HW RAID 1 with SW

Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Gorman
The AIX LVM supports RAID-0 and RAID-1, but not together, as you state. However, a rude form of RAID-0 can be achieved by specifying max allocation policy, which will cause round-robin distribution of physical extents (PEs) across a list of physical volumes (PVs), thereby approximately RAID-0 at

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Ask the BAARF committee NO RAID 5(or four or free ;o) -Original Message- From: Schauss, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Raid 1 vs Raid 5

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Jesse, Rich
, August 13, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces The _only_ even theoretical advantage to software RAID-0 is that software RAID implementations tend to have more flexibility than the hardware ones. For example

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Niall Litchfield
saying 'is it installed yet?' Niall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: 14 August 2003 14:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces It robs of CPU power, that's true

Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Zito
Actually, as of AIX 4.3.3, it does support 0+1 for LVs, but that wasn't the scenario I was imagining. I was envisioning creating a set of RAID-1 raid groups on the storage array and then striping across them using the LVM. RAID-1 is one of those things that I feel is generally better to let your

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Cary Millsap
] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces The _only_ even theoretical advantage to software RAID-0 is that software RAID implementations tend to have more flexibility than the hardware ones

Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Jared Still
Tim, Are you suggesting that HW RAID 1 with SW RAID 0 is a better combination than HW RAID 1 and HW RAID 0? If so, why? Jared On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 21:59, Tim Gorman wrote: Software RAID-1 can mirror across controllers, channels, and storage arrays, should any of those be considered a

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Mladen Gogala
/HRIDDSent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Ask the BAARF committee NO RAID 5(or four or free ;o) -Original Message- From: Schauss, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 12,

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Zito
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Tim, Are you suggesting that HW RAID 1 with SW RAID 0 is a better combination than HW RAID 1 and HW

Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Gorman
Software RAID-1 can mirror across controllers, channels, and storage arrays, should any of those be considered a single-point-of-failure... The combination of HW RAID-1 and SW RAID-0 is optimal for performance, if the HW supports it... on 8/12/03 9:04 PM, Matthew Zito at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Jared . Still
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces The _only_ even theoretical advantage to software RAID-0 is that software RAID implementations tend to have more flexibility than the hardware ones. For example, there are a number of software RAID implementations

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Is this perhaps a T-3 Disk Storage Array? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 8/12/2003 2:24 PM Our hardware people tell me that our disk array will not support Raid 10. Given a choice between Raid 1 or 5 for my tablespaces, which one is best? This is

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Cary Millsap
For the record, I often suggest using RAID level 5 with the group size set to 2. :)=) (In case you're interested, RAID level 5 with G=2 *is* RAID level 1.) Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Denver, Sydney - Hotsos Symposium

Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Zito
Actually, as of AIX 4.3.3, it does support 0+1 for LVs, but that wasn't the scenario I was imagining. I was envisioning creating a set of RAID-1 raid groups on the storage array and then striping across them using the LVM. RAID-1 is one of those things that I feel is generally better to let your

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Zito
Depends on the storage array and your particular configuration. You could certainly create a bundle of RAID-1 luns/volumes and then create a larger concatenated volume across them, but you're very likely to end up with hotspots on the first few disks. Whether that matters or not is dependent

RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces

2003-08-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Raid 1 vs Raid 5 for tablespaces Mladen, I'll send you some developers that will code some JAVA stuff that will pegg all your CPUs. Raj -Original Message- From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients