Re: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Gram
Hi Dan It should be possible to open that database ! 1) You should restore the databse from tape once more to make sure we start on somthing clean. 2) Add the _allow_resetlogs_corruption=true to the parameter file (init.ora) 3) Mount the database and create new controlfiles 4) Do a fake

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-12 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I would be curious to hear what Oracle Support suggests, Dan. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-12 Thread Fink, Dan
I've tried several approaches to the recovery. So far, no success. I have a feeling that this is a truly unrecoverable db (without having Oracle Field Support use their magic). The main problem (in my mind) is that the current database physical structure (files and sizes) does not match the

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dan - When you say recreate a control file are you meaning the CREATE CONTROLFILE statement? If so, then in answer to that specific issue, the order of the datafiles does not matter. I do this regularly to create test databases and I've never worried about making the order the same. I have even

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-12 Thread Binley Lim
If I recall the original problem, you have a backup of the datafiles, and redologs, but no controlfiles. In that case, just specify all the datafiles and redologs (that are in the backup) in the create controlfile... statement. The order does not matter, nor is the list required to be

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread Fink, Dan
I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May

Re: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread Steve Perry
If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the datafiles and create files usable by sqlldr. I haven't used it, but I heard about it several times. It's still urban legend until I get a copy :) Anybody have a copy I can borrow for AIX or

Re: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Steve, no one will ever have a copy of data unloader because Oracle does not sell IT but sells the service of running it for you. It's not urban legend, I've used it. It's from Field Support, not Tech Support, it's expensive as all getout and they are reluctant to use it. It will generate

Re: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread Joe Testa
no urban legend as Rachel has had to use it, the catch is they come in, load the software, do the unloading and remove it before they leave. oh and its EXPENSIVE. joe Steve Perry wrote: If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the

RE: Recover an unrecoverable database

2002-09-11 Thread Ji, Richard
Correct me if I am wrong, I don't think anybody has a copy. Oracle will run it for you and bill you for it. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data