RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-14 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
out who is responsible for what. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:44:17 -0800 There is the three schema method for security

The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread oracle dba
Hi all, Our consultant has presented a schema design which I have never seen (not that I have seen all the designs in the world) but I also failed to see the advantage. Basically our application consists of 35 tables and all is under one schema named after the application. Granted, the

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread bill thater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen such a approach? And what's the benefit of doing so? yes, and none i can see.;-) -- -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Hawkins
Check your consultant's credentials. From what you've indicated, there is absolutely no reason to do this. Tell him he will get to do all the management of synonyms, permissions, and schema exports. I suppose he also wants separate tablespaces for each of these schemas as well? Jim Hawkins

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Gene Sais
hmmm, consultant, complicate it, bring consultant back, get paid more . it seems a bit much 8 schema's for 35 tables. i would only separate the schema's if the objects were used by other applications. if its a self contained application, kiss :) gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/02 02:09PM

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I agree with you. This makes no sense to me. 35 tables split into 8 schemas gives you about 4-5 tables per schema? Did you ask him/her for the methodology as to why he/she feels this is important? Oracle applications uses multiple schema's for it's components, but then, you are talking

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Grabowy, Chris
There is the three schema method for security and integrity purposes, not quite sure why you would break it up the consultant's way. Is there a problem with asking the consultant about the split? What are the advantages? Is there some business requirement? S(he) may know of some requirement

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Ron Thomas
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RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread oracle dba
: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:30:53 -0800 Hum, did he used to work with financials? Its kind of hard to tell without knowing more about how the database is used but I cannot think of an advantage off the top of my head. What reasons did he give? -Original Message- Sent

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Robert Eskridge
Multiple schemas can be handy if there's a reason to isolate functional areas. One reason might be so that when you fire up a tool that does ERD's you can tell it to do just the BILLING schema. Or if you wanted to export just a section to load into a test database to do development. You could

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread oracle dba
] (Jim Hawkins) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:30:51 -0800 Check your consultant's credentials. From what you've indicated, there is absolutely no reason to do this. Tell him he

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread oracle dba
Thanks Tom, I will demand an explaination for this design when I get on a call with him tomorrow. Rich From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Ruth Gramolini
They have to make their money somehow! Our consultants have us put everything into one schema. If the various components are so different, maybe they need their own databases. Suggest that! You might as well protect your job as theirs. Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Weaver, Walt
PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:30:51 -0800 Check your consultant's credentials. From what you've indicated, there is absolutely no reason to do this. Tell him he will get to do all the management

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread oracle dba
] Subject: RE: The use of schemas Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:44:17 -0800 There is the three schema method for security and integrity purposes, not quite sure why you would break it up the consultant's way. Is there a problem with asking the consultant about the split? What are the advantages

Re: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread Stephane Faroult
oracle dba wrote: Jim, How do you know? Yes, he wants separate tablespaces for every schema. I wonder if he knows he can still put tables into separate tablespaces without using separate schemas. :) And maybe for fun. I am going to recommend back that we use a schema per table!

RE: The use of schemas

2002-02-13 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi
ROFLMFAO !!! :D JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Consultant Topic Interesting one === It's all about an intelligent consultant... Once upon a time there was a shepherd looking