Re: advice

2004-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
At 07:59 AM 1/15/2004, you wrote: What else can I suggest to help them collect data that will be informative? My business card ;-) Wolfgang Breitling Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA Centrex Consulting Corporation http://www.centrexcc.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net

advice

2004-01-15 Thread Ehresmann, David
List, I have to be involved in a conference call this afternoon concerning a client. They want advice on how to tune their Oracle database. It is a claims/transaction processing system. It is 8i on Sun 8. The dba on their system has only 6 months experience and no training. What advice can I

RE: advice

2004-01-15 Thread A.Bahar
to be involved in a conference call this afternoon concerning a client. They want advice on how to tune their Oracle database. It is a claims/transaction processing system. It is 8i on Sun 8. The dba on their system has only 6 months experience and no training. What advice can I give them? They need

RE: advice

2004-01-15 Thread Paula_Stankus
call this afternoon concerning a client. They want advice on how to tune their Oracle database. It is a claims/transaction processing system. It is 8i on Sun 8. The dba on their system has only 6 months experience and no training. What advice can I give them? They need a baseline to build

Re: advice

2004-01-15 Thread Mladen Gogala
To hire a better DBA or enlist the help of the Hotsos Corp. would be the most appropriate advice I can think of. On 01/15/2004 09:59:25 AM, Ehresmann, David wrote: List, I have to be involved in a conference call this afternoon concerning a client. They want advice on how to tune

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
a small number of database people. this means less pure oracle jobs. From: DENNIS WILLIAMS Date: 2003/12/18 Thu PM 02:59:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Ryan - Excellent points. I well know the feeling of being tied to Oracle's future

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-19 Thread ryan_oracle
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Viktor, Ryan - Is what you are experiencing the result of companies moving to open-systems Web-based architectures? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-19 Thread Viktor
t ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Ryan - Excellent points. I well know the feeling of being tied to Oracle's future. As to Oracle pricing itself out of the market, I would like tomake three points: - Pricing is one of the quickest things a vendor can change once it becomes convinced this

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Jared Still
to learn Perl(looking forward to it actually!!!) and Java. Books, web sites, docs - all these material is great. But what if you're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do you guys have some advice on how can one express teach himself. Managing expectation is one thing I

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Orr, Steve
The question is where do you want to go today? Actually, the question is, Where do you want to go tomorrow? Consult the crystal ball when it comes to career planning. Fixing VCR's may match one's skill set but such service won't be needed much when robots can stamp out new R/W DVD's for $10 a

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Daniel Hanks
- all these material is great. But what if you're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do you guys have some advice on how can one express teach himself. Managing expectation is one thing I need to talk with boss about. Surely I would not't want to be overwhelmed

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Thater, William
DENNIS WILLIAMS scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Saira I think you have to decide what your goal is. Then you need to decide how to best accomplish that goal. One tool that can lead you toward a goal is self-study. I have used that tool many times myself. However, with

Re: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread ryan_oracle
. From: Thater, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/18 Thu PM 01:44:37 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Career Advice DENNIS WILLIAMS scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Saira I think you have to decide what your goal

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
to switch since people want experience in the specific skillset before hiring you. From: Thater, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/18 Thu PM 01:44:37 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Career Advice DENNIS WILLIAMS scribbled on the wall

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread ryan_oracle
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Ryan - Excellent points. I well know the feeling of being tied to Oracle's future. As to Oracle pricing itself out of the market, I would like to make three points: - Pricing is one of the quickest

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Bellow, Bambi
, that's what you need to keep doing. Now that I've been in the field for 25+ years, the best career advice I can give is to stay on top of current trends and be willing to gain competencies as various technologies wax and ditch areas - even of strength - as they wane. The other piece of advice I can

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Viktor
ly a small number of database people. this means less pure oracle jobs. From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/12/18 Thu PM 02:59:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Ryan - Excellent points. I well know the

RE: RE: Career Advice

2003-12-18 Thread Viktor
have only a small number of database people. this means less pure oracle jobs. From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/12/18 Thu PM 02:59:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: RE: Career Advice Ryan - Excellent points. I well know the

Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
As an applications analyst/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice. Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another suite like SAP or Siebel or PeopleSoft? The difficulty is that my company does not use

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Jared . Still
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Career Advice As an applications analyst/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice. Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another suite

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice. Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another suite like SAP or Siebel or PeopleSoft? The difficulty is that my company does not use any of these. We use

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
Subject: Re: Career Advice Your enthusiasm is admirable, but I think that it would be extremely difficult for you to learn any of these packages without actually being in an environment where they are used. It may be that Tecsys is a complex set of apps on the same level as SAP or Oracle Apps

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Nelson, Allan
-Mendelin Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As an applications analyst/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice. Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
Wow... as talented and knowledgeable as you are, you are one really bored DBA. You must work alone, or be self-employed. Or maybe you are trying to tell me to read between the lines... In any case, I won't get into a silly argument with you. Thanks for your advice, Saira -Original Message

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Thater, William
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Have you ever considered a career in country music? Try getting Stand By your man just right and the rest will come. You have to learn both kinds of music, country and western. May Jake and Elwood be with you. son, that there was

Re: Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread ryan_oracle
] Date: 2003/12/17 Wed PM 01:49:25 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Career Advice Have you ever considered a career in country music? Try getting Stand By your man just right and the rest will come. You have to learn both kinds of music, country

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
question you asked Allan -Original Message- Saira Somani-Mendelin Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As an applications analyst/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Justin Cave
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 17, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Career Advice Your enthusiasm is admirable, but I think that it would be extremely difficult for you

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread eric king
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Career Advice Your enthusiasm is admirable, but I think that it would be extremely difficult for you to learn any of these packages without actually

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
, no? Thanks, Saira -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric king Sent: December 17, 2003 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Career Advice That right, packaged software like SAP and PeopleSoftware should

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
(cool stuff) and I made oracle database just one among my skills. I'm quickly honing skills of a standup comedian, too. Please, do not misunderestimate me. My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Odland, Brad
but I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice. Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another suite like SAP or Siebel or PeopleSoft? The difficulty is that my company does not use any of these. We use a smaller package by Tecsys called Elite

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Odland, Brad
Message-From: Saira Somani-Mendelin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:24 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Career Advice Is it that difficult though? Just to get familiar with it if youve worked with other similar software

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
their documentation or their advice even (as you point out). They ported their application from Informix to Oracle, so we are experiencing the pains they never had to in their pre-release days. But luckily, I am somewhat in control of how the applications are implemented and enhanced. I like the fact

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Odland, Brad
My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even if it is wearing a sandwich board that says, Hot Large Pizza Now $5.00 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Odland, Brad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
Large pizza for $5 Where? On 12/17/2003 03:14:43 PM, Odland, Brad wrote: My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even if it is wearing a sandwich board that says, Hot Large Pizza Now $5.00 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
that do the work. Interview them to find what skills and experiences are required and how you would acquire those skills and experiences. Ask what their career path was as an example. Many career advice books describe how to secure and conduct informational interviews. In a way, that is what you

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Bobak, Mark
/17/2003 03:14:43 PM, Odland, Brad wrote: My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even if it is wearing a sandwich board that says, Hot Large Pizza Now $5.00 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Odland, Brad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
Little Caesars. $5 CDN (Seriously). -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: December 17, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Large pizza for $5 Where? On 12/17/2003 03:14:43 PM, Odland, Brad wrote: My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
) and I made oracle database just one among my skills. I'm quickly honing skills of a standup comedian, too. Please, do not misunderestimate me. My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
, carry-out only. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Large pizza for $5 Where? On 12/17/2003 03:14:43 PM, Odland, Brad wrote: My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even if it is wearing

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 12/17/2003 03:44:34 PM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote: Well, good, now that we have that cleared up. Don't get me wrong, I do like your keen sense of humour and sarcasm - when I know you're joking and at times its hard to tell. Dennis has a point. The question is where do you want to go

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Odland, Brad Sent: December 17, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Career Advice If you need specifics for a home learning environment setting up Oracle 8.1.7.4 on a Gentoo linux box at home is a great learning exersize

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Bobak, Mark
, carry-out only. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Large pizza for $5 Where? On 12/17/2003 03:14:43 PM, Odland, Brad wrote: My career advice to you is: do whatever sells. Even if it is wearing

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
to or hires people that do the work. Interview them to find what skills and experiences are required and how you would acquire those skills and experiences. Ask what their career path was as an example. Many career advice books describe how to secure and conduct informational interviews. In a way

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
: Career Advice Have you ever considered a career in country music? Try getting Stand By your man just right and the rest will come. You have to learn both kinds of music, country and western. May Jake and Elwood be with you. On 12/17/2003 12:44:28 PM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote

Re[2]: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 4:24:50 PM, Bobak, Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: BM I'm work in Ann Arbor, the place I'm refering to is in Belleville, which is between Detroit BM and AA. Hey, I know Belleville, sort of. Back when I as a kid, my dad used to deliver potato chips to some Belleville

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Viktor
if you're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do you guys have some advice on how can one "express" teach himself. Managing expectation is one thing I need to talk with boss about. Surely I would not't want to be overwhelmed with stuff at the beginning. But at the same

Re: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Jared . Still
04:24 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Career Advice Let's take this topic into a more concrete scenario. New boss, company reorg, cross-training is enforced and now DBA'S's are going to be split

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Grant Allen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Career Advice Perl: Since you're working with Oracle, if you were to buy only one book, you might consider: http

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
to it actually!!!) and Java. Books, web sites, docs - all these material is great. But what if you're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do you guys have some advice on how can one express teach himself. Managing expectation is one thing I need to talk with boss about. Surely I would

RE: Career Advice

2003-12-17 Thread Viktor
forward to it actually!!!)and Java. Books, web sites, docs - all these material is great. But what ifyou're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do youguys have some advice on how can one "express" teach himself.Managing expectation is one thing I need to talk with

Re: Advice needed on dbms_shared_pool value

2003-07-26 Thread bulbultyagi
those problems come from bad application or bugs anyway... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:59 AM Hello list I needed your advice on the following : 1. What value do you all specify

Advice needed on dbms_shared_pool value

2003-07-25 Thread bulbultyagi
Hello list I needed your advice on the following : 1. What value do you all specify in DBMS_SHARED_POOL.ABORTED_REQUEST_THRESHOLD ( value ) ? (1.a.) Should it be set equal to the shared_pool_size ? (1.b.) Should it be greater than shared_pool_size ? (But wouldn't that be impossible. The free

Re: Advice needed on dbms_shared_pool value

2003-07-25 Thread Tanel Poder
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:59 AM Hello list I needed your advice on the following : 1. What value do you all specify in DBMS_SHARED_POOL.ABORTED_REQUEST_THRESHOLD ( value ) ? (1.a.) Should it be set equal to the shared_pool_size ? (1.b.) Should it be greater

Advice needed

2003-07-04 Thread Patrick Van der Sande
that sid1 will not influence the performance of sid2= =2E Sid1 will be production, sid2 will be a test environment.=0D Is this setup possible with RAID 5 ??=0D =0D Can somebody advice me ?=0D =0D Rgds,=0D =0D Patrick Van der Sande=0D Managing Director =0D ANDES Consulting BVBA=0D email : [EMAIL

Advice

2003-06-29 Thread bulbultyagi
Hello list , I am planning to appear for my Oracle 9i database fundamentals II exam ( 1z0-032 ) on the 7th . I would be grateful for any advice , pointers ,etc. Bit nervous cause it looks tougher than 1z0-031 ( dba fundamentals 1 ) thanks ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http

Erm.... sorry but I need some advice (Hardware question)

2003-06-06 Thread Gints Plivna
On behalf of Lee Robertson Please include his address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in reply -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have a potential new client coming up who requires a 500Gb database, a mix of OLTP and batch work, about 400 users of

Re: Erm.... sorry but I need some advice (Hardware question)

2003-06-06 Thread Jared . Still
- Forwarded by Jared Still/Radisys_Corporation/US on 06/06/2003 09:09 AM - Jared Still 06/06/2003 08:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Erm sorry but I need some advice (Hardware question

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-30 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Beth, Since your archiving process involves many tables, I think the best approach for you would be as follows: Create a work table that will hold the primary key value for the master table. the first step of your process would involve selecting the records to be archived from the master table,

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-30 Thread Beth Wells
Thanks Tom, this is an excellent solution! I used to do something similar when I worked with SQL Server, because it's good to avoid cursors with SQL Server, but I didn't think of it this time. Thanks again all, Beth -Original Message- Thomas F Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:44 AM

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-29 Thread Richard Ji
Robert, Thanks for point that out. Also, if there is index on the table, redo will still be generated for index. Richard -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L /*+ append */ alone does not prevent redo generation. Only

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-29 Thread Beth Wells
Thanks all, this is helpful information for my boss, who wants to schedule a procedure to bulk copy data between tables on a regular basis. For my own problem, I should have been more specific in my example, but I was thinking more about my boss' issue than my own. (What a great employee I am!)

Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-28 Thread Beth Wells
Hi all, Please forgive this newbie question; I'm just getting started with PL/SQL. I want to write a procedure to copy all rows from one table to another one with an identical structure. The table has many rows so I'm committing every thousand records (error handling to be added later). The

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-28 Thread Richard Ji
If it's a lot of rows and looks like you are archiving it to a historical table, you could do: insert /*+ append */ into target_table select * from source_table; this will do a direct path insert, so it uses space above HWM. It doesn't generate redo. Richard -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Advice needed on PL/SQL code

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Freeman
/*+ append */ alone does not prevent redo generation. Only with NOLOGGING in the SQL will redo generation be suppressed. Cheers! RF -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If it's a lot of rows and looks like you are

expert advice for separation of production from report database

2002-12-09 Thread Michael Wu
and one for reporting. I would like to hear any expert advice regarding the implemention and its pros/cons. Your help will be highly appreciated. I will summarize. Thanks, Michale ** This e-mail contains privileged attorney

RE: expert advice for separation of production from report databa

2002-12-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
for transaction and one for reporting. I would like to hear any expert advice regarding the implemention and its pros/cons. Your help will be highly appreciated. I will summarize. Thanks, Michale ** This e-mail contains

RE: expert advice for separation of production from report databa

2002-12-09 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: expert advice for separation of production from report databa You didn't say if you are looking at a separate box for your reporting db. Push for separate hardware, or else you won't be solving your problem. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-14 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
their own IT professionals? Miller, Jay JayMiller To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] @TDWaterhousecc: .comSubject: RE: Advice needed

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-14 Thread Stephen Lee
Theoretically, if the activity of the database doesn't involve too much disk writing, and the cache is large enough, etc., etc., you can use parity. When disk drives cost a lot of money, there was some justification for it. Now that drives are cheap, there really is no justification. To

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all of our databases. This has some advantages (communication between the various boxes would be much faster) but I have some

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
partitioning to retain this functionality. Jared Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Thomas Day
JayMiller To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] @TDWaterhousecc: .comSubject: RE: Advice

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
JayMiller To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] @TDWaterhousecc: .comSubject: RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Sent by: root

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all of our databases. This has some advantages (communication between the various boxes would be much faster) but I have some

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Stephen Lee
I've cussed and discussed the topic of one big stripe versus multiple small stripes with different people and have yet to come across anyone who has conducted a real test of various scenarios. If you stripe across all disks, then you have the advantage of guaranteed, perfectly balance I/O --

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
partitioning to retain this functionality. Jared Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Lets say a guy only has one finger on each hand to tie his shoe (mirroring). If he had five fingers (striping) he can accomplish the job quite a bit faster. Now give him 1000 shoes to tie and listen to him bitch about how he could

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all of our databases. This has some advantages (communication

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Cary Millsap
partitioning to retain this functionality. Jared Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
, investigate server partitioning to retain this functionality. Jared Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Stephen Lee
One thing that should be made clear: Never, ever, stripe with parity (i.e. RAID 5, etc.) unless you are force, at gunpoint, to do it. That is BAD. Your database will run faster on an abacus ... well ... maybe a slide rule. -Original Message- Yes, it's entirely separate CPUs and

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-11 Thread Miller, Jay
Fortunately my SA believes that so we were able to present a united front at the presentation (and yes, the Sun rep said that with a large enough cache RAID 5 works just as well as 1+0 - which is what we would be using). Jay Miller -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:54

Re: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-10 Thread Tim Gorman
to retain this functionality. Jared Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K

Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Miller, Jay
Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all of our databases. This has some advantages (communication between the various boxes would be much faster) but I have some performance concerns. Specifically, our main OLTP database would go down from 18 spindles to 8 spindles.

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jay - I share your concerns. Can you elaborate more on how heavily loaded the system is? Is it somewhat I/O bound? Basically you're saying that it would have a single RAID0 set? If you divided the disks differently to create 2 or 4 RAID sets, would there be enough room for your application? I've

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
This one is so easy that even a high school student could answer it. Use the theory of constraints (book called The Goal) to this one. When you reduce the number of resources to process a job, sequentially or concurrently, you induce bottlenecks within the process. Thus, by reducing the number

Re: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Anjo Kolk
Jay, You will hit performance problems because of not having I/O bandwidth. Databases don't need storage, they need IO operations. Two important pieces of info that are missing from your post: - How many databases in total are going to run on this Sun 15K ? - How many concurrent users on all

Re: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Jared . Still
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 11:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Our CIO has suggested that we get a Sun 15K to house all of our

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Johnson, Michael
I bet you Sun rep , while trying to unload some hardware on you, has never heard of the term Logical I/O.Many times when upgrading, one can make things worse , not better. If you are having performance problems, then zero in on what those could be and fix it there. Take some snapshots,

Re: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Peter . McLarty
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles) Jay, You will hit performance problems because of not having I/O bandwidth. Databases don't need storage, they need IO operations. Two important

RE: Advice needed on move to Sun 15K (losing spindles)

2002-10-09 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Stephen hit it right on the head !! Buy your CEO a copy of 'The Goal' ! It will be very useful in this and all future for such 'adventures'. How big is this Cache? And how big are all the databases that will be running on this big server? If database size is cache, then cash goes to the

Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet
Folks, Since good old MetaSh t is once again having problems, as well as the help line I need to know if any of you have run into the following before: PENGUIN:8.1:SYS alter package utl_tcp compile body; alter package utl_tcp compile body * ERROR at line 1: ORA-06544: PL/SQL: internal

RE: Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread Root, Melanie
I recently moved from one server to another and found that many of the system object where invalid. I reran catalog.sql and catproc.sql and this corrected the problems for me... give that a try. Melanie -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of

Re:RE: Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet
Raj, Thanks for the help, but in this case I need to first wash a little egg off of my face. The problem here was at least was easily recoverable. What had happen was we moved a database instance from one machine to another. It's cheaper to run two instances on one box that pay Oracle for

Re: Advance Oracle Trigger Writing Advice

2002-06-18 Thread Yechiel Adar
Trigger Writing Advice I was just wondering if you knew that you can use DBMS_OUTPUT in a trigger Surprisingly, the answer is yes. Have you tried it? Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

RE: RE: Advance Oracle Trigger Writing Advice

2002-06-18 Thread Stephane Faroult
-L Subject:RE: Advance Oracle Trigger Writing Advice Hi Chris, Thanks, But unfortunately I only can see the error when the record is inserted using a third party replication product. Even then, if I restart

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