Re: Too many db calls

2002-11-16 Thread Greg Moore
Cary, Thank you. Could you elaborate on the issue of excessive database calls, which show up as excessive network traffic? I can picture a PL/SQL loop, which executes an SQL statement over and over again. This would produce many database calls, and it might be possible to remove the loop

RE: Too many db calls

2002-11-16 Thread Cary Millsap
Greg, That's one case. PL/SQL is a really poor language in which to write an application. The language tricks you into believing that writing a scalable application can be accomplished in just a few lines of 4GL code, but it's really not true. To write scalable PL/SQL, you need to use DBMS_SQL.

Re: Oracle on MVS able to submit JCL ??

2002-11-16 Thread Stephane Faroult
Babette Turner-Underwood wrote: Does anyone on this listserv using Oracle on a mainframe? I was asked today if I can use Oracle's extproc feature on the mainframe to submit JCL. I said that I doubted it because the OS structure is so much different than UNIX or NT, but I would look into

how to download all the openworld documents?

2002-11-16 Thread dist cash
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Re: raw versus Mounted File Systems

2002-11-16 Thread Connor McDonald
There is an (older) paper on www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk, and some very good info on www.ixora.com.au hth connor --- VIVEK_SHARMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Good Docs , Links , sources ? Need to present a paper to the Managers Thanks -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

RE: RE: RE: CONSISTANT GETS

2002-11-16 Thread Connor McDonald
In some cases, NOT IN is better than NOT EXISTS. In other cases, the opposite is true. Moral: It never pays to discount an option out of hand - eg, NOT IN often works very very nicely for uncorrelated subqueries hth connor --- Post, Ethan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold the press. NOT IN

Re: Too many db calls

2002-11-16 Thread Connor McDonald
On index-obsessed apps, you'll often see massive amount of LIO to a target of a nested loop. ie, scan mega table and then index probe the inner table for every row of the mega table... Generally you'll see smoke coming out of the index root/branch blocks on the target table :-) hth connor ---

RE: Too many db calls

2002-11-16 Thread Connor McDonald
With the advent of bulk bind and bulk collection facilities in PL/SQL, you can get very close to the correct SQL mechanisms...its just that not many people tend to do it, and you end up with a gazillion 'one-row-at-a-time' applications out there. Cheers Connor --- Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RMAN backup

2002-11-16 Thread Tim Gorman
How about switching to incremental (from full) backups? Even if all you do are level-0 backups? My understanding of the difference between a full and a level-0 backup (besides the obvious impact on any subsequent level-n incremental backups) is that level-0 backups only back up database blocks

Re: RMAN backup

2002-11-16 Thread Joe Testa
Tim, i'd be glad to hear someone else verify your statement as my understanding is the the only difference between full and level 0 is that full cannot be used as part of an incremental strategy, other than that they both back up the ever used blocks. Anyone else care to jump in on this one?

RE: RMAN backup

2002-11-16 Thread Ron/Sarah Yount
Joe Tim, It is accurate to state the both full and level 0 have the same impact on the database, and both backup all used blocks. It is also accurate that a full backup cannot be used as a piece of an incremental strategy. Although there may be rare instances (no pun intended :-) ) when you

Re:New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help

2002-11-16 Thread dgoulet
Babette, This is one of those from this old turd to that old fart messages. I've been around Oracle since 1985 I love it too. But it sounds like the director has a serious problem with new technology. Doing anything in COBOL today? Even PeopleSoft is busy re-writing their code in C++.

RE: Monitoring Unix Question

2002-11-16 Thread ecandrietta
Sthepen : I am very thankfull for you help ... But it is not all... Imagine you working at environment that doesn't know the database, and need to solve problems. So, the CPU is a item that you helped me to find out the user that is using it a lot, and in general, what more can i do, thinks

RE: New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help

2002-11-16 Thread Ron/Sarah Yount
In the for what it is worth department: In addition to Dick's comments (with which I agree) Be careful how you approach this situation. If you wish to succeed, it may be key to let the powers that be know that you are not proposing bleeding edge solutions, and that looking down the road towards

Re: Too many db calls

2002-11-16 Thread Greg Moore
Cary M., Connor M., Thanks very much. - Greg -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services

RE: New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help

2002-11-16 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Cobol! Again!:( -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just found out today that we have a major development initiative that is starting and they are planning on using Pro*Cobol to develop the application. (my head is still

Oracle Developer Application Tuning Resources/Guidlines.

2002-11-16 Thread Application DBA
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