Finally! The RAID F Simulator is here ( and attachedd )

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Dear All, Jesper from the Copenhagen Business School got this crazy idea some weeks ago, and with input from Michael Mller of Miracle A/S, it's my proud honor to present the World's first Oracle-based RAID-F Simulator. It's all fun and games, of course, and Jesper got inspired after reading

Re: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Well, I guess I could have added a :) after my request on how to fix the hit ratio, but it wouldn't be nearly as much fun. On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 03:29, Mogens Nrgaard wrote: Ah yes, you could introduce heuristically (spelling?!) skewed hit ratios. As Dave Ensor explained at UKOUG, the word

Re: Finding the most actively DML'd table

2003-12-22 Thread zhu chao
Hi, I did something similiar before. It cound be meaningful in some case. My database was io-bound and top wait event was log file sync. It can because of too much commit, I asked business guys and according to there data and business logic, there cound't be so much transactions. I

Re: Upgrading to Oracle 9.2.0.4 - Any pitfalls?

2003-12-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis
What's the bug relating to 1,000s of Partitions, was it the one to with monitoring, or something more interesting ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T.

problems encountered installing db 817 in redhatlinux es 2.1

2003-12-22 Thread mglim2
hi, were they any problem installing db 817 in redhat linux es 2.1? wat are they and how to go about it? thanks . Best Regards, Grace Lim Suy Sing Comm'l Corp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Connor McDonald
Thats why I carefully wrote: opportunity for benefits as opposed to benefits :-) --- Mogens_Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the Best of Breed versus One Vendor debate, and there are pros and cons galore. The perfect scenario, of course, is when they combine, so one vendor

Re: Finally! The RAID F Simulator is here ( and attachedd )

2003-12-22 Thread Connor McDonald
LOL! Just to add my 2c worthI think you can get a simpler XOR implementation with: CREATE OR replace FUNCTION bitor( x IN NUMBER, y IN NUMBER ) RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN RETURN x + y - bitand(x,y); END; / CREATE OR replace FUNCTION bitxor( x IN NUMBER, y IN NUMBER ) RETURN NUMBER AS

Re: Finally! The RAID F Simulator is here ( and attachedd )

2003-12-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I don't think you should be playing with this and having fun when you could use the valuable Christmas period for rebuilding all your indexes. NB Joke But since it's Oracle 9.2 that gets mentioned how about trying the new bit functions: select sys_op_rawtonum( sys_op_vecxor(

Unix question

2003-12-22 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo all of you, Is there anyone whom could help me with the unix command how to find all rows , that doesnt exists try in a file. I mean how to find all rows which doesnt have the characters try in. Maybe this is too simple, but would appreciate anyone whom could give me some quick help.

Re: Unix question

2003-12-22 Thread Gene Sais
grep command will help you or you could venture to the sed command. grep is probably the most used unix command. To learn more, man grep . [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/22/03 07:54AM Hallo all of you,Is there anyone whom could help me with the unix command how to find all rows , that doesnt exists

RE: Unix question

2003-12-22 Thread Jayaram Keshava Murthy (Cognizant)
Hi, You can use the grep command in the following manner: grep -v try filename The option -v negates the search pattern, meaning rows which do not have a try string in them. The string can be enclosed in double quotes as well, this is useful if you are searching for multiple

Re: Upgrading to Oracle 9.2.0.4 - Any pitfalls?

2003-12-22 Thread Navneet Gupta
Title: Upgrading to Oracle 9.2.0.4 - Any pitfalls? Jones, ORA-04031 may arrise if DB_CACHE_ADVICEparameter isON/REDDY , and SHARED POOL is unable to allocate the memory required for the advisory. This may be resoleved by increasing SHARED_POOL_SIZE or putting the DB_CACHE_ADVICE=OFF.

specify nls_lang

2003-12-22 Thread bulbultyagi
Hello list, I am using 9.2.0.1.0 enterprise edition on windows. Earlier when I use to specify nls_lang=French_France.US7ASCII in 9i release 1 I would get the following messages in French c: sqlplus Entrez le nom utilisateur : But now when I specify nls_lang=French_France.US7ASCII , sqlplus

ASM question

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
I decided to play around with ASMs and use the statspack tablespace as my trial balloons(lots of inserts and deletes and I dont care about fragmentation). anyway I just ran SPCREATE. Wierd thing is that there is no data in any of my statspack tables, but their segments sizes vary from 1m to

Re: ASM question

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
hmmm... odd there is no setting for pct_used on tables, but different settings for percent free. Different settings for initial extent to between tables. anyone have more info on how this 'intelligent' algorithm works? I heard kyte speak last week and he assured us that the algorithm is good

RE: Duplicating with rman

2003-12-22 Thread Stephen.Lee
Yeah. I noticed that too and wondered about it. The script that was posted was, in fact, the script that was run. Maybe same kind of line length limitation? -Original Message- From: Yong Huang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple

Re: ASM question

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
ignore spcreate.sql actually puts pctfree,pctused, and really bad initial and next extent settings on the tables. its an antiquated script that hasnt been updated. my bad. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/22 Mon AM 09:09:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace Hi list, is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature ? My partition is over 8 Go. Here my statements , thank you in advance ! SQLexec

RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RMAN - the time has come Okay, its time to bite the bullet ... time to learn RMAN. Outside of TFM (which I just started reading), are there any good books/articles on RMAN? I know there is one by RFreeman, and it is for 9i (Robert, will there be a 10g version?) Yeah, I am also

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: RMAN - the time has come Raj, It really is a quick learn. The best way is to get some scripts (great examples in the rdbms/demo directory) and try them on a test database. Once you get something running, the rest is simple. If you need some samples, let me know. It's really basic

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
transportable tablespaces need to be totally self-contained. everything that is being transported has to be in that tablespace. it doesnt matter if its a different datafile. you probably have your partitions in seperate tablespaces? or am i wrong? From: NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) [EMAIL

Re: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Yong Huang
As a friendly reminder, when debunking myths, I suggest we keep sober and never go overboard. The recently popular formula to get an arbitrary hit ratio is not what a database in normal usage naturally gets. Unless a mischievous developer plays a prank, hit ratios are still useful to some extent

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
wait or are you just trying to transport 1 partition? i think you have to do regular export and import. From: NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/22 Mon AM 10:34:25 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exporting a partition with

RE: [***SPAM***] - Re: Upgrading to Oracle 9.2.0.4 - Any pitfalls? - Found word(s) to be removed remove list error e-mail in the Text body.

2003-12-22 Thread Tony Johnson
Last month Oracle Support said there would be a 92045 in Janauary 2004 . -Original Message- zhu chao Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L - Found word(s) to be removed remove list error e-mail in the Text body. At lease 9.2.0.5 will be

Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Yong Huang
Hi, Gregory, I only have access to Oracle 9.2 on my laptop. Here's my test. I have ORCL and AUX1 databases, the latter created by RMAN DUPLICATE some time ago. I logon AUX1 as SYSTEM. Set SYSTEM password hash value to the same as in ORCL. Create link L to ORCL without password. Selecting from a

Re: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: RMAN - the time has come In addition to the Freeman book, I would also suggest the RMAN Pocket Reference from O'Reilly. It predates the RF book and certainly comes handy for learning - I learned from there. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: Jamadagni,

Using dbms_stats.auto_sample_size in dbms_stats.

2003-12-22 Thread Arnon, Yuval
Title: Message To all 9i DBA's. I am trying to find out how efficient (or not ) is the option of running dbms_stats with dbms_stats.auto_sample_size. Reading metalink I see a lot of issues with the time it takesto run, and also that sample_size column is always equal to num_rows. Would

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace No it's not. However, you could simply exchange the partition with a table and then export the tablespace. For instance, ALTER TABLE HISTO_DOSSIEREXCHANGE PARTITION part1 WITH TABLE HISTO_DOSSIER_part1; Then export the tablespace. Make

Re: SUN question

2003-12-22 Thread Jerome Roa
Your answer was better than the answer I got from SUN support. Thanks and Happy Holidays. At 09:43 PM 11/27/2003 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard to explain this better than the man page. It's short sweet and 2 the point. But alas, I'll try anyway. Define RAM -

RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)
Title: RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace Yes, my partitions are in separate tablespaces so do I have to export all the tablespaces concerned ? wich solution do you use ? each partition is over 8 Go so should I use common export command to backup only one tablespace ?

RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Jesse, Rich
My BCHR is currently 96.62%. In the past, it was normally over 99%. What should I do? I'll be waiting for Mladen's reply... :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original

RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Pete Sharman
But I thought this was the perfect opportunity for Miracle to fill any perceived gap in support? :) Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original

Re: RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
i dont think many people are using bchr anymore. I think its been talked down to death. only place I hear about it is offshore. people still using the old niemic book. his new took all that stuff out. or am i wrong? From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/22 Mon PM 02:14:26 EST

Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
The datafile for our rollback segments gre huge because of an improper setting. Even setting optimal and shrink, etc., won't help because the segments are scattered. Do I have to create a new tablespace? Can I change the datafile a rollback segment writes to and then take the other offline? The

(U) Hello All Again ... Christmas, Cary, Mysql, Perl, etc. ....

2003-12-22 Thread Johnson, Michael
CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED I have been off on a brand new program for a couple months now and haven't really been working with Oracle all that much. That will come later. Doing alot of prototyping in Perl and Mysql (gag) for this big project.I let everyone know that once the terabytes

(U) RE: RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Johnson, Michael
CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED Rich, Burn any source that talks about hit ratio's. What exactly is running slow in your system and at what times ? Talk directly to the user that is experiencing the slowdown and ask them to repeat the behavior. Set a 10046 trace and go find the slowdown while

stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
My estimate right now is about a 500GB instance(but could grow). There are several complexities. 1. high transaction system, but also will have alot of long running queries 2. We deliver data daily and rebuild large parts of the database nightly with loads. Im not certain I have the window to

RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
At 11:14 22-12-03 -0800, you wrote: My BCHR is currently 96.62%. In the past, it was normally over 99%. What should I do? I'll be waiting for Mladen's reply... :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex,

RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
-Original Message- Mogens Nørgaard Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 10:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's the Best of Breed versus One Vendor debate, and there are pros and cons galore. The perfect scenario, of course, is when they combine, so one vendor delivers the

RE: RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Jesse, Rich
Erm...sorry. I said :) when I should've said ;). Joke. Pun. Tongue-in-cheek. Yer built too low. The fast ones keep going over your head. Gotta keep your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. That's a joke there, son. Again, sorry. We're in no change mode until after the Holidaze and Foghorn

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Title: RMAN - the time has come Try Robert Freeman's book. I have only heard good things about it. Ruth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:35 AMTo: Multiple recipients of

STATSPACK interpretation

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: STATSPACK interpretation We recently experienced a crash on our prod datewarehouse running 9.2.0.2 on AIX 4.3.3. The cause of the crash was 4031 errors generated by background processes (Oracle support has confirmed there is a bug involved), however, since that crash occurred, a

RE: RE: Hit Ratio

2003-12-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Rich, you mean due to 'no change mode' you can't even change your hit ratio ... too bad. Happy holidays everyone !! Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly

Re: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Daniel Fink
There is no need to drop the datafiles, just recreate the segments in the current tablespace. Pick a slow time to do this as you will significantly increase the likelihood of 1555s. 1) Offline rbs1 2) Drop rbs1 3) create rbs1 4) Repeat steps 1 - 3 for all rbs2..rbsN. 5) When complete, resize

RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace You could create new table in transportable tablespace, exchange data with the partition you want to export, move transportable tablespace file to the destination system, exchange data back from the table into desired partition.

RE: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
Daniel, Thank-you very much for your clear answer. Very helpful. When a RBS is taken off-line, does it transfer the rollback information to another segment? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There is no

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
We have talked about a 10g version of the book, which I'm sure will happen at some point in time :-) Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/22/2003 2:39 PM Try Robert Freeman's book. I have only heard good things about it. Ruth

Re: stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Inline... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My estimate right now is about a 500GB instance(but could grow). There are several complexities. 1. high transaction system, but also will have alot of long running queries Hello, 1555s! I think you will be plagued by these, even with a high number/size

Re: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Mike, When an RBS is taken offline, the undo information is not transfered to another segment, hence the need to perform these actions at a quiet time. When an rbs is taken offline, all transactions currently using the rbs are allowed to complete (either commit or rollback). As these transactions

Re: stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
At 13:14 22-12-03 -0800, you wrote: I think you are on the right track. If you can turn on tracing with a logon trigger, you should be able to get some/most(?) of the sql and the order in which they are performed. Strip out the extraneous info and you have a test script. James Morle of the Oak

RE: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
Daniel, Thank you again. That clears it up even more. I'll wait for a quiet time and then proceed. Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Mike, When an RBS is taken offline, the undo information is not transfered to

Re: stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread Ryan
- Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:14 PM Inline... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My estimate right now is about a 500GB instance(but could grow). There are several complexities. 1. high transaction

Re: stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread Ryan
see my responses below... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:14 PM Inline... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My estimate right now is about a 500GB instance(but could grow). There are several complexities.

ORA-00600:arguments: [kdibc3position

2003-12-22 Thread Gene Gurevich
Hi. I'm getting ora 6000 error with the kdibc3position argument in a prod DB. I have read some information on that issue on the metalink, but the only workaround that I seem to have found was to drop and rebuild the bitmap indices on the table. I couldn't see any info as to how to prevent it in

Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Nguyen, David M
Title: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces. I am using delete command to delete million records in several tables to free up space in tablespace. I understand delete command does not release unused spaces as truncate command but I could not use truncate to delete ALL records in table as I

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
This is one of the cases where a partitioned table can be of great use. What version of Oracle? Standard or Enterprise Edition? With a partitioned table you can say alter table ... drop partition ... ; to easily get rid of a large chunk of data and release the space. See Oracle9i Database

Re: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Ryan
you can also do the following: 1. create table as and copy just the records you want to keep. 2. Drop the old table 3. rename new table to old table 4. re-create the indexes. if there are alot, issue them as jobs and do it at the same time. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients

Re: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Stephane Faroult
Nguyen, David M wrote: I am using delete command to delete million records in several tables to free up space in tablespace. I understand delete command does not release unused spaces as truncate command but I could not use truncate to delete ALL records in table as I need to keep one

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Environment: DB1: RH 8.0 with Oracle EE 9.2.0.4 DB2: Win2k SP3 with Oracle EE 9.2.0.1 SYSTEM user on each database initially have different passwords. It goes something like this: DB1: select password from dba_users where username = 'SYSTEM'; Let's say the result is 'AC424SDK4398' DB2:

Re: STATSPACK interpretation

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
What is taking place inside GENERATE_PRODUCT_KEYS() ? Could be dynamic SQL of the worst kind in there. That is, not using bind variables. A 10046 trace level 4 or 12 will show you what is going on there. Jared On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 12:39, Thomas Jeff wrote: We recently experienced a crash on

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
I would say it is like chess. Learning how the pieces move is easy. Learning to put it altogether and use and manage it is not quite as simple. There are a lot of nuances to RMAN, and I don't pretend to have a handle on it. Yet. Jared On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 08:04, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:

Re: stress tests for a scale to 30,000 users

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Since you are on 9i, have you considered monitoring the tables? ( alter/create table monitor ) This would reduce the need to collect statistics so often. Jared On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 12:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My estimate right now is about a 500GB instance(but could grow). There are

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
... and if your table is not partitioned, consider using 'CREATE TABLE AS' with WHERE clause that eliminates the rows you wish to delete, recreate indexes and constraints on the new table, drop the old table, rename the new to the old. Keep in mind that stored procedures and triggers that

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Nguyen, David M
It's Oracle8i Enterprise Edition. -Original Message- Jacques Kilchoer Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This is one of the cases where a partitioned table can be of great use. What version of Oracle? Standard or Enterprise Edition? With a

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread anu
And synonyms will have to be re-created. (drop and create). Grants will have to be given. Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and if your table is not partitioned, consider using'CREATE TABLE AS' with WHERE clause that eliminates the rows you wish to delete, recreate indexes and

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Then you should have the partitioning option. Partition your table if you can. -Original Message- Nguyen, David M It's Oracle8i Enterprise Edition. -Original Message- Jacques Kilchoer This is one of the cases where a partitioned table can be of great use. What

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Bobak, Mark
Because there is a lot that could be overlooked, I prefer to do it the other way around: create table tmp_tbl nologging as select * from big_table where (rows you want to keep); truncate table big_table; alter trigger trigger_name disable; (for each trigger on big_table) alter constraint

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Imagine the banner text: Miracle A/S. The Legacy Support of Tomorrow. Filling the Gap (jeans) like nobody else. Thanks to Tim Gorman for inspiration. I don't recall the text completely anymore, but he used to have this one about Building tomorrow's legacy systems - one crisis at a time. Or

TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-22 Thread Murali Vallath
I have recently noticed in this one situation that there is a great difference between a tnsping vs a regular ping to the same server. for example this tnsping took about 270 ms which is strange and its consistent Used TNSNAMES adapter to resolve the aliasAttempting to contact (DESCRIPTION =

Re: Using dbms_stats.auto_sample_size in dbms_stats.

2003-12-22 Thread Connor McDonald
There's some notes on my site (www.oracledba.co.uk) about how it goes about its work. Basically, it will do a slightly more work than you might think - throw a 10046 trace on it and you can see how it does its job. Cheers Connor --- Arnon, Yuval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all 9i DBA's. I

sql_trace when using middle tier connection pooling

2003-12-22 Thread Ryan
Our middle tier opens several dedicated connections. SQL statements are issued through these dedicated connections. If Im running a stress test and I want to trace... what is the best method to use? Just use a logon trigger and trace every session? then dig through it to look at the top

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-22 Thread Paul Drake
Murali Vallath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently noticed in this one situation that there is a great difference between a tnsping vs a regular ping to the same server.   for example  this tnsping took about 270 ms which is strange and its consistent Used TNSNAMES adapter to resolve the

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Yong Huang
Jared, I see you log out and log back in as SYSTEM to DB2. But how do you know the password for SYSTEM to log back in with after you change it? What if you don't log out? When I tried that (i.e. not logging out), I got ORA-1017. Yong Huang --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Environment:

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
That works also. I guess it really depends on which one is faster, and that is dependent on what % of the data you are trying to remove, and how big the whole thing is. In any case, writing a script to generate grants is just one more thing on the check list, not too hard to do. Jared On Mon,

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Paul mentioned a few reasons for this. Another is that a ping does not get past the NIC. The ping is answered by software running on the card. You may have noticed at times that a ping is not a reliable method for determining if a server is still functioning. The OS can crash, but the NIC

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Thomas
Hi, Okay. I'm almost a believer of this as a problem. How about 9.2.0.4 on RH9.3. 1) What does anyone/everyone get for my this query (my results shown): connect system/[EMAIL PROTECTED]; alter user scott identified by tiger; -- select password from dba_users where username = 'SCOTT'; PASSWORD

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
It doesn't matter which account I logged into DB2 with, as long as that account has privileges to read DBA_USERS. SYSTEM was used simply because it was the only account on the database that could be logged into remotely, so my test could be run without switching between machines. If I had

RE: 170systems

2003-12-22 Thread Kirtish P Gaonkar
Hi Allan , I couldn't get any reply from you . Can you please mail me the docs. I am waiting for those docs of 170 Systems. Thanks in Advance . Regards Kirtish P Gaonkar -Original Message- Kirtish P Gaonkar Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Upgrading to Oracle 9.2.0.4 - Any pitfalls? - Found word(s) to be

2003-12-22 Thread Richard Oliver Jones
Thanks for the feedback from everyone. I'll probably upgrade to 9.2.0.4 unless there is a pressing reason to upgrade to 9.2.0.4.5 and when it becomes available. Apparently bug no 2921201 is showing as fixed in 9.2.0.5 in Metalink but Oracle support gave me a date of March at the earliest for its

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
On RH 8.0 Oracle 9.2.0.4: F894844C34402B67 It is required that a password for a particular users always hashes to the same value, regardless of platform or Oracle version. This has been true for as long as I have used oracle: since 7.0.13. If not, export/import would not be able to recreate

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Yes, I misunderstood. Once I change the password, I can no longer connect to the account. My hasty little test was missing an important condition: I should have pretended I didn't know the password to the other database, which would prevent me from logging back on exploiting the db link. Wonder

RE: Delete vs. truncate to free up spaces.

2003-12-22 Thread Naveen, Nahata (IE10)
In such a case what will happen to the transactions that hit the table (since the triggers have been disabled)? Regards Naveen -Original Message- From: Bobak, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:

Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread rahul sharma
8.1.7 on win2000 SQL select password 2 from dba_users 3 where username = 'SCOTT'; PASSWORD -- F894844C34402B67 - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 11:44 AM Hi, Okay.

Rollback segments size calculation

2003-12-22 Thread Shibu MB
Hi all I am getting ORA-01555 in my database and the solution is to create huge rollback segments but my doubt is how to calculate the size of this huge rollback segments . Now I have 24 G of space in rollback segment tablespace .But still i am getting the error.The