RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-29 Thread Rachel Carmichael
the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner, Jared
has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.

It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much work.
NOT


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 I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
 minimal effort it took :-)
  
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
  
 Babette Turner-Underwood 
 work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
 
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   may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
 
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   You sir, have obviously never done this. 
   
   I have.  :) 
   
   Nor read my first post on the matter. 
   
   No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
   
   This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
   
   Jared 
   
   
   
   
   
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   Hi List Manger- 
   Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
 logical and error free option ? 
   All this fire would have been avaoided. 
 
   CSW Simon. 
 
   
 
 


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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-29 Thread babette . turnerunderwood
Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
It should have read 

But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)

I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount of work compared 
to the amount that we get back out of this list resource.

I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?

- Babette

-Original Message-
Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner, Jared
has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.

It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much work.
NOT


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
 minimal effort it took :-)
  
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
  
 Babette Turner-Underwood 
 work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
   may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
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   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
 
   You sir, have obviously never done this. 
   
   I have.  :) 
   
   Nor read my first post on the matter. 
   
   No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
   
   This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
   
   Jared 
   
   
   
   
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  01/27/2004 11:49 PM 
  Please respond to ORACLE-L 
 
 
 
 To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 cc: 
 Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!  
 
 
 
   Hi List Manger- 
   Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
 logical and error free option ? 
   All this fire would have been avaoided. 
 
   CSW Simon. 
 
   
 
 


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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-29 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I was agreeing with you. :)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
 It should have read 
 
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)
 
 I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount
 of work compared to the amount that we get back out of this list
 resource.
 
 I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
 Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
 HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?
 
 - Babette
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
 addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner,
 Jared
 has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.
 
 It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
 than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much
 work.
 NOT
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
  minimal effort it took :-)
   
  But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
   
  Babette Turner-Underwood 
  work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  
  I have.  :) 
  
  Nor read my first post on the matter. 
  
  No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
  
  This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
  
  Jared 
  
  
  
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
   01/27/2004 11:49 PM 
   Please respond to ORACLE-L 
  
  
  
  To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  cc: 
  Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  Hi List Manger- 
  Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
  logical and error free option ? 
  All this fire would have been avaoided. 

  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-29 Thread babette . turnerunderwood
Phew, I would hate to have the Oracle Goddess in disagreement with me.

I have already had a bad enough day  Arguing with one of the other DBAs about how 
long a recovery took. (It was just testing that recovery would work... Proof of 
concept... Not testing for recovery timing AAAarrgh!)

- Babette


-Original Message-
Sent: 2004-01-28 2:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I was agreeing with you. :)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
 It should have read 
 
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)
 
 I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount
 of work compared to the amount that we get back out of this list
 resource.
 
 I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
 Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
 HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?
 
 - Babette
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
 addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner,
 Jared
 has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.
 
 It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
 than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much
 work.
 NOT
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
  minimal effort it took :-)
   
  But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
   
  Babette Turner-Underwood 
  work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  
  I have.  :) 
  
  Nor read my first post on the matter. 
  
  No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
  
  This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
  
  Jared 
  
  
  
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
   01/27/2004 11:49 PM 
   Please respond to ORACLE-L 
  
  
  
  To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  cc: 
  Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  Hi List Manger- 
  Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
  logical and error free option ? 
  All this fire would have been avaoided. 

  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-29 Thread Yechiel Adar
I really do not understand all this topic.
I just sent subscribe, reply to the message that I received and that's all.
Oh, yes, I had to update the e-mail address in my favorites. Another minute
down the drain.

Jared has enough work to do, without having to what is a minimal effort from
you.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread waibals
Title: Message



Hi 
List Manger-
Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most logical 
and error free option ?
All 
this fire would have been avaoided.

CSW 
Simon.

  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 
  11:09 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  One word - 
  exchange.
  --David Lord
  

-Original Message-From: Hemant K 
Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 
16:54To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!Why not 
stop using Outlook. I've been happy with Eudora for 1.5 years 
now.HemantHemantAt 07:54 AM 23-01-04 -0800, you 
wrote:
Thanks guys!
  
  From: Kevin Toepke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Friday, January 23, 2004 9:30 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!Its easy to 
  disable this "feature": Navigate to the Tools-Options 
  menu Click the "Email Options" 
  Button 
  Uncheck the "Remove extra line 
  breaks in plain text messages" 
  checkbox Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
  done!Kevin 
  
-Original Message- 
From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:14 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
    Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
Bill 

The line breaks get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think 
it matters what your default new mail format is. I think its a new 
'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in 
Microsoft Office' in online help: -
Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire 
extra line breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook 
automatically removes the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the 
message.
Ouch 
David Lord 
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-Original Message- 
From: Thater, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 23 January 2004 13:24 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
    Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

-Original Message- 
From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:14 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
    Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
Tim 

Its something to do with outlook removing line breaks and thereby 
mangling the formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a 
message in the header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line 
breaks in this message were removed. To restore click here.' 
When I did click there and replied the subscription went through 
okay. 

What on earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not 
sure. How does it decide which line breaks to remove? I 
couldn't find any way of stopping it doing this. 

well, it looks to me as if you're using HTML and/or Word for your 
email, and Outlook in it's infinite wisdom replaces line brakes with 
BR or whatever the hell Word uses. as to stopping it, i 
have no idea. 
-- 
Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
DBA 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: Message



I 
don't recommend using Word as the editor for Outlook... Subscribe to the Windows 
and Office lists from www.woodyswatch.com


Patrice.

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 28, 2004 
3:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

  Hi 
  List Manger-
  Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most logical 
  and error free option ?
  All 
  this fire would have been avaoided.
  
  CSW 
  Simon.
  
-Original Message-From: Lord David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 
11:09 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
One word - 
exchange.
--David Lord

  
  -Original Message-From: Hemant K 
  Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 
  16:54To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!Why not stop using Outlook. I've 
  been happy with Eudora for 1.5 years 
  now.HemantHemantAt 07:54 AM 23-01-04 -0800, you 
  wrote:
  Thanks guys!

From: Kevin Toepke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Friday, January 23, 2004 9:30 AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!Its easy to 
disable this "feature": Navigate to the Tools-Options 
menu Click the "Email Options" 
Button 
Uncheck the "Remove extra line 
breaks in plain text messages" 
checkbox Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
done!Kevin 

  -Original Message- 
  From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:14 AM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  Bill 
  
  The line breaks get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think 
  it matters what your default new mail format is. I think its a 
  new 'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new 
  in Microsoft Office' in online help: -
  Extra line breaks automatically removed in 
  messages Sometimes plain text messages that travel 
  over the Internet acquire extra line breaks that make the message 
  difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes the extra line breaks 
  so it's easier to read the message.
  Ouch 
  David Lord 
  Senior DBA 
  Iron Mountain (UK) Ltd
  Telephone: 029 2054 4000 
  Direct: 029 2054 4013 
  Fax: 029 2069 2464 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message- 
  From: Thater, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 23 January 2004 13:24 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:14 AM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  Tim 
  
  Its something to do with outlook removing line breaks and thereby 
  mangling the formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is 
  a message in the header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line 
  breaks in this message were removed. To restore click 
  here.' When I did click there and replied the subscription went 
  through okay. 
  
  What on earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not 
  sure. How does it decide which line breaks to remove? I 
  couldn't find any way of stopping it doing this. 
  
  well, it looks to me as if you're using HTML and/or Word for your 
  email, and Outlook in it's infinite wisdom replaces line brakes with 
  BR or whatever the hell Word uses. as to stopping it, i 
  have no idea. 
  -- 
  Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
  DBA 
  "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell 
  song 
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our politics 
  and our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, for 
  politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation 
  stands forever. - Albert Einstein 
  This email and its attachments are 
confidential under applicable law and are intend

RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Jared . Still

You sir, have obviously never done this. 

I have. :)

Nor read my first post on the matter.

No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot.

This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload.

Jared








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Hi List Manger-
Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most logical and error free option ?
All this fire would have been avaoided.

CSW Simon.




RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Goulet, Dick



I'm 
going to agree with Jared on this one. There were a few "dead" addresses 
in the old list. One individual in particular is now behind some corporate 
Spam shield that bounced every message sent to him. Time for a clean sweep 
of those subscribing. And it wasn't that painful 
anyway.

Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

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  12:09 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  I have. :) 
  Nor read my first post on the 
  matter. No, it would not be 
  easier, not by a long shot. This 
  is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. Jared 
  


  
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    is moving!!Hi List Manger- Couldn't 
  a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most logical and error free 
  option ? All this fire would 
  have been avaoided.  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  


RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Paula_Stankus



may i 
just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  I have. :) 
  Nor read my first post on the 
  matter. No, it would not be 
  easier, not by a long shot. This 
  is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. Jared 
  


  
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is moving!!Hi List Manger- Couldn't 
  a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most logical and error free 
  option ? All this fire would 
  have been avaoided.  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  


RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F



I 
agree. The *least* we can do is to subscribe to the service. Jared 
had all the other work getting the service started.
Good job Jared. We love you, we really really 
do.


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 
  2004 12:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  may 
  i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it 
  took
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
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12:09 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!You sir, have 
obviously never done this. I 
have. :) Nor read my first 
post on the matter. No, it would 
not be easier, not by a long shot. This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
Jared 

  
  

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
Title: Message



I must 
disagree . . . this resource is worth MUCH more than the minimal effort it 
took :-)

But if 
it clears out the dead subscribers, 
perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)

Babette 
Turner-Underwood work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 
3pm) 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  may 
  i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it 
  took
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 
12:09 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!You sir, have 
obviously never done this. I 
have. :) Nor read my first 
post on the matter. No, it would 
not be easier, not by a long shot. This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
Jared 

  
  

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael
the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner, Jared
has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.

It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much work.
NOT


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
 minimal effort it took :-)
  
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
  
 Babette Turner-Underwood 
 work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
   may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
 
   You sir, have obviously never done this. 
   
   I have.  :) 
   
   Nor read my first post on the matter. 
   
   No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
   
   This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
   
   Jared 
   
   
   
   
   
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 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
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 To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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 cc: 
 Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!  
 
 
 
   Hi List Manger- 
   Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
 logical and error free option ? 
   All this fire would have been avaoided. 
 
   CSW Simon. 
 
   
 
 


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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
It should have read 

But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)

I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount of work compared 
to the amount that we get back out of this list resource.

I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?

- Babette

-Original Message-
Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner, Jared
has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.

It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much work.
NOT


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
 minimal effort it took :-)
  
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
 perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
  
 Babette Turner-Underwood 
 work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
   may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
   
 
   You sir, have obviously never done this. 
   
   I have.  :) 
   
   Nor read my first post on the matter. 
   
   No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
   
   This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
   
   Jared 
   
   
   
   
   
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 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  01/27/2004 11:49 PM 
  Please respond to ORACLE-L 
 
 
 
 To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 cc: 
 Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!  
 
 
 
   Hi List Manger- 
   Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
 logical and error free option ? 
   All this fire would have been avaoided. 
 
   CSW Simon. 
 
   
 
 


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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I was agreeing with you. :)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
 It should have read 
 
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)
 
 I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount
 of work compared to the amount that we get back out of this list
 resource.
 
 I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
 Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
 HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?
 
 - Babette
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
 addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner,
 Jared
 has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.
 
 It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
 than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much
 work.
 NOT
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
  minimal effort it took :-)
   
  But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
   
  Babette Turner-Underwood 
  work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  
  I have.  :) 
  
  Nor read my first post on the matter. 
  
  No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
  
  This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
  
  Jared 
  
  
  
  
  
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  To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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  Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  Hi List Manger- 
  Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
  logical and error free option ? 
  All this fire would have been avaoided. 

  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-28 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
Phew, I would hate to have the Oracle Goddess in disagreement with me.

I have already had a bad enough day  Arguing with one of the other DBAs about how 
long a recovery took. (It was just testing that recovery would work... Proof of 
concept... Not testing for recovery timing AAAarrgh!)

- Babette


-Original Message-
Sent: 2004-01-28 2:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I was agreeing with you. :)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops ... Had a typo in the second sentence
 It should have read 
 
 But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should CHANGE list addresses every 6 months ;-)
 
 I was AGREEING that the changing list addresses was a minimal amount
 of work compared to the amount that we get back out of this list
 resource.
 
 I think Jared has been doing a great job. 
 Not only as a listowner but often at times as a list moderator.
 HOW does he find time to read ALL of those e-mails?
 
 - Babette
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 2004-01-28 2:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 the OT list is significantly smaller than this list and I clean
 addresses every 6 months or so. It's not easy being a list owner,
 Jared
 has my utmost respect for the work it takes to manage this huge list.
 
 It took me 3 seconds to send the first message to subscribe and less
 than that to verify the subscription. Gee, that was way too much
 work.
 NOT
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I must disagree . . .  this resource is worth MUCH more than the
  minimal effort it took :-)
   
  But if it clears out the dead subscribers, 
  perhaps we should list addresses every 6 months ;-)
   
  Babette Turner-Underwood 
  work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 2004-01-28 12:25 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  may i just say - this resource is worth the minimal effort it took
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf
  Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  You sir, have obviously never done this. 
  
  I have.  :) 
  
  Nor read my first post on the matter. 
  
  No, it would not be easier, not by a long shot. 
  
  This is free service, so my thinking is, share the workload. 
  
  Jared 
  
  
  
  
  
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  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
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  To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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  cc: 
  Subject:RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
  
  Hi List Manger- 
  Couldn't a immigration of our subscribed accounts been the most
  logical and error free option ? 
  All this fire would have been avaoided. 

  CSW Simon. 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-26 Thread Lord David
Title: Message



One word - 
exchange.
--David Lord

  
  -Original Message-From: Hemant K Chitale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 
  16:54To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!Why not stop 
  using Outlook. I've been happy with Eudora for 1.5 years 
  now.HemantHemantAt 07:54 AM 23-01-04 -0800, you wrote:
  Thanks guys!

From: Kevin Toepke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 
January 23, 2004 9:30 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!Its easy to 
disable this "feature": Navigate to the Tools-Options 
menu Click the "Email Options" 
Button 
Uncheck the "Remove extra line breaks 
in plain text messages" 
checkbox Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
done!Kevin 


  -Original Message- 
  From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:14 AM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  Bill 
   
  The line breaks get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it 
  matters what your default new mail format is. I think its a new 
  'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in 
  Microsoft Office' in online help: -
  Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
  Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra 
  line breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically 
  removes the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the 
  message.
  Ouch 
  David Lord 
  Senior DBA 
  Iron Mountain (UK) Ltd
  Telephone: 029 2054 4000 
  Direct: 029 2054 4013 
  Fax: 029 2069 2464 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message- 
  From: Thater, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 23 January 2004 13:24 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
   
  -Original Message- 
  From: Lord David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:14 AM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
      Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  Tim 
   
  Its something to do with outlook removing line breaks and thereby 
  mangling the formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a 
  message in the header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line breaks 
  in this message were removed. To restore click here.' When I 
  did click there and replied the subscription went through okay. 
  
   
  What on earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not 
  sure. How does it decide which line breaks to remove? I 
  couldn't find any way of stopping it doing this. 
   
  well, it looks to me as if you're using HTML and/or Word for your 
  email, and Outlook in it's infinite wisdom replaces line brakes with 
  BR or whatever the hell Word uses. as to stopping it, i have 
  no idea. 
  -- 
  Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
  DBA 
  "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song 
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our politics and 
  our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, for 
  politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation 
  stands forever. - Albert Einstein 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Lord David
Title: Message



Tim

Its something to do 
with outlook removingline breaks and thereby mangling the formatting of 
the command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the header of the mail 
saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this message were removed. To 
restore click here.' When I did click there and replied the subscription 
went through okay. 

What on earth 
lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not sure. How does it decide 
which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any way of stopping it doing 
this.
David LordSenior DBAIron Mountain 
(UK) Ltd

  
  -Original Message-From: Johnston, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 January 2004 
  20:19To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  I was trying to sign up this morning... The 
  response was fast but I keep getting booted on the final confirmation 
  email... The message I get is...
  
  
  Invalid number of parameters.
  Not 
  sure why... Figured I'd wait and see if anyone else is having the same 
  problem... Anyone else experience this?
  FYI... I've triedreplying to the 
  email...Copying the message text and sending a new email... 
  And, even when you sign up through the web site, you still need to perform a 
  final confirmation via email... Argh!
  I'm 
  guessing it may be Outlook since I'm using a beta version of Outlook 
  2003...
  Tim
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 
  2:39 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  Well, I did check with them first 
  to ensure the volume would be OK. It is running a bit slow. I'm not sure if it is just 
  freelists.org, or a general internet 
  slowdown. Sending mail from work 
  to home it seems that it is taking much too long. Jared 
  


  
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Thater, William
Title: Message





  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
  3:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  Tim
  
  Its something to 
  do with outlook removingline breaks and thereby mangling the formatting 
  of the command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the header of the 
  mail saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this message were 
  removed. To restore click here.' When I did click there and 
  replied the subscription went through okay. 
  
  What on 
  earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not sure. How does it 
  decide which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any way of stopping 
  it doing this.
  
  well, it looks to me as if you're 
  using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's infinite wisdom 
  replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the hell Word uses. as 
  to stopping it, i have no idea.
  --
  Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
  DBA
  "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell 
  song
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our 
  politics and our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, 
  for politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation 
  stands forever. - Albert Einstein
  


RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Thater, William



RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Lord David
Title: Message



Bill

The line breaks get 
removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it matterswhat your default 
new mail format is.I think its a new 'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I 
found this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft Office'in online help: 
-

Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra line 
breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes 
the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the message.
Ouch
David LordSenior DBAIron Mountain 
(UK) LtdTelephone: 029 2054 4000Direct: 029 2054 4013Fax: 029 
2069 2464Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Thater, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 
  13:24To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  
  
-Original Message-From: Lord David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
3:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
Tim

Its something to 
do with outlook removingline breaks and thereby mangling the 
formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the 
header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this message 
were removed. To restore click here.' When I did click there and 
replied the subscription went through okay. 

What on 
earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not sure. How does it 
decide which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any way of 
stopping it doing this.

well, it looks to me as if 
you're using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's infinite 
wisdom replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the hell Word 
uses. as to stopping it, i have no 
idea.
--
Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
DBA
"I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell 
song
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Kevin Toepke
Title: Message



Its 
easy todisable this "feature":
 Navigate to the Tools-Options 
menu
 
Click the "Email Options" 
Button
 
Uncheck the "Remove extra line breaks in 
plain text messages" checkbox
 
Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
done!

Kevin

  
  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
  9:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  Bill
  
  The line breaks 
  get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it matterswhat your 
  default new mail format is.I think its a new 'feature' in Outlook 
  2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft Office'in 
  online help: -
  
  Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
  Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra line 
  breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes 
  the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the message.
  Ouch
  David LordSenior DBAIron 
  Mountain (UK) LtdTelephone: 029 2054 4000Direct: 029 2054 
  4013Fax: 029 2069 2464Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Thater, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 
2004 13:24To: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!


  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
  3:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  Tim
  
  Its something 
  to do with outlook removingline breaks and thereby mangling the 
  formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the 
  header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this 
  message were removed. To restore click here.' When I did click 
  there and replied the subscription went through okay. 
  
  
  What on 
  earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not sure. How does 
  it decide which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any way of 
  stopping it doing this.
  
  well, it looks to me as if 
  you're using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's infinite 
  wisdom replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the hell Word 
  uses. as to stopping it, i have no 
  idea.
  --
  Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
  DBA
  "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell 
  song
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between 
  our politics and our equations. But to me our equations are far more 
  important, for politics are only a matter of present concern. A 
  mathematical equation stands forever. - Albert 
  Einstein
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Lord David
Title: Message



Thanks Kevin, 
couldn't see for looking
--
David LordSenior DBAIron Mountain (UK) 
Ltd-Original 
Message-From: Kevin Toepke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 January 2004 14:30To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!

  Its 
  easy todisable this "feature":
   Navigate to the Tools-Options 
  menu
   
  Click the "Email Options" 
  Button
   
  Uncheck the "Remove extra line breaks in 
  plain text messages" checkbox
   
  Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
  done!
  
  Kevin
  

-Original Message-From: Lord David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
9:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
Bill

The line breaks 
get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it matterswhat your 
default new mail format is.I think its a new 'feature' in 
Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft 
Office'in online help: -

Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra 
line breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically 
removes the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the 
message.
Ouch
David LordSenior DBAIron 
Mountain (UK) LtdTelephone: 029 2054 4000Direct: 029 2054 
4013Fax: 029 2069 2464Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Thater, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 
  January 2004 13:24To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
  moving!!
  
  
-Original Message-From: Lord David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 23, 
2004 3:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!
Tim

Its 
something to do with outlook removingline breaks and thereby 
mangling the formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a 
message in the header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line 
breaks in this message were removed. To restore click here.' 
When I did click there and replied the subscription went through 
okay. 

What 
on earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not sure. How 
does it decide which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any 
way of stopping it doing this.

well, it looks to me as if 
you're using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's 
infinite wisdom replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the 
hell Word uses. as to stopping it, i have no 
idea.
--
Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE 
DBA
"I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- 
Gilwell song
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, 
between our politics and our equations. But to me our equations are far 
more important, for politics are only a matter of present concern. A 
mathematical equation stands forever. - Albert 
Einstein
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread QuijadaReina, Julio C
Title: Message









I like the fine message provided when you right
click on Extra line break in this message were removed. To restore,
click here..that is No help topic is associated with this
item oh great.





Julio
Cesar Quijada-Reina

Programmer Analyst

Computer
Services at Alfred State College





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toepke
Sent: Friday, January
 23, 2004 9:30 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: !!Please Read -
Oracle-L is moving!!





Its easy todisable
this feature:





 Navigate to the Tools-Options menu





 Click the Email Options Button






Uncheck the Remove extra line breaks in
plain text messages checkbox





 Click Okay about 30 times and your're done!











Kevin





-Original
Message-
From: Lord David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January
 23, 2004 9:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: !!Please Read -
Oracle-L is moving!!



Bill











The line breaks get removed from
*incoming* mail, so I don't think it matterswhat your default new mail
format is.I think its a new 'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I found
this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft Office'in online help: -





Extra line breaks automatically removed
in messages Sometimes plain text messages that
travel over the Internet acquire extra line breaks that make the message
difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes the extra line breaks so it's
easier to read the message.





Ouch

David Lord
Senior DBA
Iron Mountain (UK) Ltd

Telephone: 029 2054 4000
Direct: 029 2054 4013
Fax: 029 2069 2464
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original
Message-
From: Thater, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 January 2004 13:24
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: !!Please Read -
Oracle-L is moving!!









-Original
Message-
From: Lord David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004
3:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: !!Please Read -
Oracle-L is moving!!



Tim











Its something to do with outlook
removingline breaks and thereby mangling the formatting of the
command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the header of the mail
saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this message were removed. To
restore click here.' When I did click there and replied the subscription
went through okay. 











What on earth lookout is doing
removing line breaks I'm not sure. How does it decide which line breaks
to remove? I couldn't find any way of stopping it doing this.











well, it looks to me as
if you're using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's infinite
wisdom replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the hell Word
uses. as to stopping it, i have no idea.





--





Bill
Shrek Thater ORACLE
DBA





I'm
going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song






[EMAIL PROTECTED]











Yes, we
have to divide up our time like that, between our politics and our equations.
But to me our equations are far more important, for politics are only a matter
of present concern. A mathematical equation stands forever. - Albert Einstein











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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Johnston, Tim
Title: Message



Thanks guys!


From: Kevin Toepke 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:30 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
!!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

Its 
easy todisable this "feature":
 Navigate to the Tools-Options 
menu
 
Click the "Email Options" 
Button
 
Uncheck the "Remove extra line breaks in 
plain text messages" checkbox
 
Click Okay about 30 times and your're 
done!

Kevin

  
  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
  9:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!
  Bill
  
  The line breaks 
  get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it matterswhat your 
  default new mail format is.I think its a new 'feature' in Outlook 
  2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in Microsoft Office'in 
  online help: -
  
  Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages 
  Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra line 
  breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook automatically removes 
  the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the message.
  Ouch
  David LordSenior DBAIron 
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-Original Message-From: Thater, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 
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    ORACLE-LSubject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is 
moving!!


  -Original Message-From: Lord David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 
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  moving!!
  Tim
  
  Its something 
  to do with outlook removingline breaks and thereby mangling the 
  formatting of the command. In my Outlook, there is a message in the 
  header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line breaks in this 
  message were removed. To restore click here.' When I did click 
  there and replied the subscription went through okay. 
  
  
  What on 
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  it decide which line breaks to remove? I couldn't find any way of 
  stopping it doing this.
  
  well, it looks to me as if 
  you're using HTML and/or Word for your email, and Outlook in it's infinite 
  wisdom replaces line brakes with BR or whatever the hell Word 
  uses. as to stopping it, i have no 
  idea.
  --
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  song
   
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  Einstein
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Hemant K Chitale


Why not stop using Outlook. I've been happy with Eudora for 1.5
years now.
Hemant
Hemant
At 07:54 AM 23-01-04 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks
guys!

From: Kevin Toepke
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:30 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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Its easy to disable this
feature:
 Navigate to
the Tools-Options menu

Click the Email
Options Button

Uncheck the Remove extra
line breaks in plain text messages checkbox

Click Okay about 30 times and
your're done!

Kevin

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

Bill

The line breaks get removed from *incoming* mail, so I don't think it
matters what your default new mail format is. I think its a new
'feature' in Outlook 2003 - I found this quote in the 'Whats new in
Microsoft Office' in online help: -

Extra line breaks automatically removed in messages
Sometimes plain text messages that travel over the Internet acquire extra
line breaks that make the message difficult to read. Outlook
automatically removes the extra line breaks so it's easier to read the
message.

Ouch
David Lord
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Subject: RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

Tim

Its something to do with outlook removing line breaks and thereby
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message in the header of the mail saying something like 'Extra line
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When I did click there and replied the subscription went through
okay. 

What on earth lookout is doing removing line breaks I'm not
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couldn't find any way of stopping it doing
this. 

well, it looks to me as if you're using HTML and/or Word for your
email, and Outlook in it's infinite wisdom replaces line brakes with
BR or whatever the hell Word uses. as to stopping it, i
have no idea.
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DBA

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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Michael Thomas
Ref: Fix subscription errors after Final Confirmation
message 

I'm on Yahoo. The workaround is to send the Final
Confirmation message (with that //job stuff) back
using the Forward button (not Reply). You have to
cut-paste the address.

The problem with Reply is caused by HTML formatting in
 the Reply scrollable window, which may add a CR to
the command and fail. However, if you use Forward
instead of Reply there is no editing nor formatting
and it works!

Good luck, see you there...

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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

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The list members must be really hammering their servers now.  I've tried to sign up 
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I can see the headlines now, oracle-l slashdots freelists.org

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
It's working for me, but slowly. I tried to do it through the webpage and got the 
first confirmation e-mail back (containing a code to enter on the webpage.) Then I 
subscribed to the new list, got a second e-mail back to confirm my subscription, and 
replied to that. I'm sure more things will show up shortly.

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as spam.

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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

Well, I did check with them first to ensure the volume would be OK.

It is running a bit slow. I'm not sure if it is just freelists.org, or a general
internet slowdown.

Sending mail from work to home it seems that it is taking much too long.

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The list members must be really hammering their servers now. I've tried to sign up using both the
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
I went through the webpage but never got the confirmation email back
containing the code to be entered.


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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

Give it a little time, you'll get it.

Jared








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I went through the webpage but never got the confirmation email back
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 I've tried to sign up using both the
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Johnston, Tim



I was trying to sign up this morning... The response 
was fast but I keep getting booted on the final confirmation email... The 
message I get is...


Invalid number of parameters.
Not sure 
why... Figured I'd wait and see if anyone else is having the same 
problem... Anyone else experience this?
FYI... I've triedreplying to the email...Copying 
the message text and sending a new email... And, even when you sign up 
through the web site, you still need to perform a final confirmation via 
email... Argh!
I'm 
guessing it may be Outlook since I'm using a beta version of Outlook 
2003...
Tim


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Well, I did check with them first to 
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running a bit slow. I'm not sure if it is just freelists.org, or a 
general internet slowdown. 
Sending mail from work to home it seems 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Dave Phillips








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Give it a little time, you'll get it. 

Jared







 
  
  
  
  
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I went through the webpage but never got the
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-Original Message-
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It's working for me, but slowly. I tried to do it through the webpage and
got the first confirmation e-mail back (containing a code to enter on the
webpage.) Then I subscribed to the new list, got a second e-mail back to
confirm my subscription, and replied to that. I'm sure more things will show
up shortly.

One caveat though: the first response was caught by my work's spam filter
and flagged as spam.

 -Original Message-
 Ron Thomas
 
 The list members must be really hammering their servers now. 
 I've tried to sign up using both the
 web and email methods and have yet to receive a conformation/response.
 
 I can see the headlines now, oracle-l slashdots freelists.org
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Thater, William