Re: [Organizers] Welcome email to new dancers -- bit of an exciting success story

[John Sweeney via Organizers]

Hi Emily, 

  We have a stack of these slips on the desk and get everyone to 
fill one in:

 

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 

Dancing for Fun

 

Name(s): __

 

Please send me e-mails about dance dates, venue changes, closures, 
cancellations, etc.

 

E-Mail (CAPITALS): _

 

How did you hear about us? 

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 

 

I don’t send individua notes out, just add them to my Mailchimp list.

 

Happy dancing,  

   John   



John Sweeney, Dancer, England 
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Re: [Organizers] Welcome email to new dancers -- bit of an exciting success story

[Carol Geisler via Organizers]

Hi Emily - Could you send us the version of your original email that was
sent out and a version of the new email that is individualized and that got
such a good response?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Delia Clark via Organizers <
organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Emily,
> I think I’m veering off from your question a bit, but one thing we found
> worked was to have known, trusted, members of our dance community recommend
> other people they thought might be interested, and give us their email
> addresses. We then included them in the next dance announcement with a note
> saying that their name had been recommended and to please let us know if
> they would like to be added to our regular list, or if they didn’t want to
> receive more notices. It seemed like it worked pretty well. Nobody seemed
> upset about it, though a few did let us know they’d prefer not to be on the
> regular list at that time.
> Good luck!
> Delia
>
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Emily Addison via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I wanted to report on a new engagement strategy that we've been using in
> Ottawa these past two months which seems to be working really well and I'm
> excited about!   It's sending a personal email to new people as we add to
> our email list.  (Full disclosure - this is an idea that Alex DL from
> Country Dance New York mentioned at the dance organizers discussion at the
> Dance Flurry in 2017. I loved the idea at the time but it took a while to
> implement.)
>
> =
> Before I get onto the idea and implemention ---> a question for the group!
> Has anyone had success getting email addresses of most BRAND new people who
> show up at their dance?  Right now, we get new dancer email addresses in
> two ways:
> 1. They sign up on our email sign up sheet at the front table.
> 2. They put their email address on the second dance free card AND check
> off the box saying 'add me to your email list'.  (So they actually have to
> have come back a second time and hand in the filled-in card for us to get
> their email address.)
> ... ... ... I'd love to be able to figure out a way to collect the email
> addresses of more FIRST TIMERS without it seeming creepy.
> 
> Anyway... here's what I wanted to share on adding new people to our email
> list.
>
> WHAT WE DID BEFORE:
> We would collect email addresses through one of two ways (see above).  We
> would then go into mailchimp and add those email addresses.  The new person
> would get a form welcome email from us (carefully worded but in mailchimp
> format).  They would have to hit 'confirm' before being added to our email
> list.
>
> WHAT WE DO NOW:
> I send them a personal email from my personal account (which looks very
> different than a mailchimp message).  I then go into mailchimp and add them
> but check off that I already have permission to add them to the list.  (I
> also keep a photo record of them giving us permission)
>
> WHAT WE ARE NOTICING:
>
>- More email addresses are being added because people don't have to do
>the confirmation stage. (Yes... we do have to keep proof of permission to
>meet with Canadian email spam laws but the pick up is well worth it).
>- We are getting a fair number of emails BACK from new dancers with
>encouraging messages.  They express how much fun they are having, offer
>suggestions and even say they want to volunteer.  For instance, I added
>about 14 people last week and I got 6 responses back, two of whom offered
>to volunteer!
>
> I've included the responses we got last week as inspiration for y'all.  It
> is work to send the personal message and to respond but it's also exciting
> and is part of building that sense of belonging for those new folks from
> the start.
>
> I've also included a copy of the "personal email" I've been sending out.
>
> Would love thoughts or suggestions!!!
>
> :) Emily
> in Ottawa, ON
>
> ==
> Hi, we love to take part in your dances. It's a very fun way to exercise
> and a great cardio workout. People are so friendly and supportive. The only
> thing that I would suggest is adding a few more fans on the floor (or
> walls?)  Otherwise, everything else is great. Will be back for sure.
>
> ===
> Hi, Yes, I did have a great time both times I went.  Everyone was so
> welcoming and I enjoyed the live band and the dancing was great.  I have no
> suggestions re improvements as I felt included in all the dances, even
> though I was just learning.  Have to miss the June 16th dance as I will
> be in Victoria but plan on enjoying Contra
> Dancing when it starts up again in the Fall.
>
> Thanks for getting in touch.  Appreciate the opportunity to provide input.
>
> ==
>
> Thanks!
>
> I love how friendly everyone is, how accepting and willing to teach.
> 

Re: [Organizers] Welcome email to new dancers -- bit of an exciting success story

[Jonathan Roveto via Organizers]

Very cool experience and something that is quite timely from my perspective
here in Atlanta.

So, before I came on, we had what in hindsight was a terrible practice (in
our implementation that is). We would give our new dancers "New Dancer
Cards" that also had a Get In Free (GIF) portion that the dancers could
return on their second visit. The dancers would fill out their name and
email address and would be given the GIF portion.

When I came on and another new board member looked at the data on these
cards for years, we found some unfortunate things. Our dancer return rate
based on returned GIF cards was <2%, i.e., only 2% of dancers who showed up
came back and returned a card (although that doesn't mean some dancers
could have returned but forgot their card). I believe we also did not
explicitly say that we would send people emails. So, when a new board
member attempted to send out emails to this huge list of new dancers
collected over the years (focusing on the most recent), Gmail's servers
flagged his account and blocked emails after the 2nd attempt at a mass
email. This very likely resulted from an excessive number of people
clicking "Spam" upon receiving them.

What we actually do now is use MailChimp and built our newsletter from
scratch. We provide a small tablet ($39 amazon fire!) with the MailChimp
Subscribe application up. It explicitly says we'll send 3-4 emails per
month. The dancer types in their name and email and clicks Yes/No to a "Do
you want to be emailed about Volunteer Opportunities?" question. It's still
a small emailing list (~70 dancers), but we have a read rate of ~50% and
have had 0 unsubscribes so far. As you hinted at, Mailchimp isn't the best
because it's not personal and even shows up in Promotions/Updates tabs in
GMail, meaning that it's more easily lost in al the promotional email
people get on their GMail accounts.

However, as a younger dancer, if I'm newly dealing with an organization,
the use of more professional tools like MailChimp sends a few good signals,
including "Hey, you are cool and hip and are more likely to value my
privacy/data integrity" (if I'm newly engaging with an organization, I find
that the less professional an organization looks, the more I worry that
they'll freely provide my info to others because we potentially don't share
the same privacy values) and "Hey, your organization is responsive to the
times" (not that following every trend is good, but when trying to build
communities of 18 year olds and 80 year olds and all ages in between,
there's always pressure to keep up with the times in terms of technology,
culture, etiquette, etc.).

Main take away (TL;DR): We use MailChimp, people sign up on tablets (oh
this also greatly reduces guessing at handwriting), and we are pretty
successful at getting newer and established dancers to view the emails
under this method, even if it is not as nice as the personalized
introductory email!

Jonathan Roveto
Owner/Member
Fair Oaks Holdings, LLC
Cell: (470) 632-2523
PO Box 131
Smyrna, GA 30081

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Emily Addison via Organizers <
organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I wanted to report on a new engagement strategy that we've been using in
> Ottawa these past two months which seems to be working really well and I'm
> excited about!   It's sending a personal email to new people as we add to
> our email list.  (Full disclosure - this is an idea that Alex DL from
> Country Dance New York mentioned at the dance organizers discussion at the
> Dance Flurry in 2017. I loved the idea at the time but it took a while to
> implement.)
>
> =
> Before I get onto the idea and implemention ---> a question for the group!
> Has anyone had success getting email addresses of most BRAND new people who
> show up at their dance?  Right now, we get new dancer email addresses in
> two ways:
> 1. They sign up on our email sign up sheet at the front table.
> 2. They put their email address on the second dance free card AND check
> off the box saying 'add me to your email list'.  (So they actually have to
> have come back a second time and hand in the filled-in card for us to get
> their email address.)
> ... ... ... I'd love to be able to figure out a way to collect the email
> addresses of more FIRST TIMERS without it seeming creepy.
> 
> Anyway... here's what I wanted to share on adding new people to our email
> list.
>
> WHAT WE DID BEFORE:
> We would collect email addresses through one of two ways (see above).  We
> would then go into mailchimp and add those email addresses.  The new person
> would get a form welcome email from us (carefully worded but in mailchimp
> format).  They would have to hit 'confirm' before being added to our email
> list.
>
> WHAT WE DO NOW:
> I send them a personal email from my personal account (which looks very
> different than a mailchimp