a J2EE licensee. Do you apply to Sun and
send some money?
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From: Christian Sell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:26 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
Evermind's position, as stated on the FAQ
and commercial products to give J2EE solutions popularity and keep
Microsoft MTS at bay.
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From: Kevin Duffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 1:43 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
Really? How can
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Gerald Gutierrez wrote:
I've run into so many weird and absurd problems in Orion; all it would've
taken for me to solve the problem and submit a patch would be a grep in the
source tree. Alas, I cannot do this and I am stuck with an application
server that has many
hat have released their source. I have heard of JBoss..but I don't know
much about it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald
Gutierrez
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 1:10 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: An
At 10:35 25.11.00 , you wrote:
Interesting Rob. I completely agree with you. I think the Orion team is
snip/
I agree 100% with what you say (except for the 5k$ thing;-)) and I see I'm
not the only one having these thoughts.
formiddable opponent of WebLogic. I do agree though..stop the EJB
Evermind's position, as stated on the FAQ, is that they would be SUED by
Sun if they made their source code public.
What?! What is the rationale behind this conclusion???
Talk to Sun. J2EE licensing prevents an open source J2EE implementation
(although a "compatible" implementation of
Robert,
thanks for your openness. Very insightful.
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From: "Robert Krueger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
At 17:36 24.11.
my personal opinion on this is that evermind should deliver source (while
retaining full rights on enhancements and bug fixes) with the product to
eliminate that risk. other commercial projects like orbaccus
(http://www.ooc.com) have shown that they still make a lot of money despite
Of Robert Krueger
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 4:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
At 11:12 24.11.00 , you wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know, is anyone currently using Orion in a production
environment? The rather high number of issues people report
However I can sympatize with Karl and Magnus. EJB is a very new
technology. Shipping the source makes it relatively easy for the
competition to copy the product which of course is the downside. But I
think shippingg the source would be for the better of the server. Nobody
is perfect and if all
At 10:15 24.11.00 , you wrote:
However I can sympatize with Karl and Magnus. EJB is a very new
technology. Shipping the source makes it relatively easy for the
competition to copy the product which of course is the downside. But I
think shippingg the source would be for the better of the server.
At 10:10 24.11.00 , you wrote:
I quite agree with you Robert. I love Orion..and tell everyone I know to use
it becuase of its great performance, features and so on. Lately though I
haven't seen either Karl or Magnus on IRC chatting, nor have I seen an email
in the list from them on any regular
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald
Gutierrez
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:16 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
However I can sympatize with Karl and Magnus. EJB is a very new
technology. Shipping the source makes it relatively easy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald
Gutierrez
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 1:10 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
The Orion FAQ (http://www.orionserver.com/faq/#-551543462) actually says
that they might be sued by Sun
At 05:36 PM 11/24/2000 -0800, you wrote:
You know..while I would love to see source for the sole purpose of allowing
us to help the Orion team debug and fix problems (not to allow a fork of the
product), I think everyone needs to think about other products. Do you think
WebLogic, Inprise, Oracle,
f
Evermind staff in this list.
If JBoss ever becomes a competent product I fear for Orion.
--
Jason Rimmer
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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:55 PM
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