RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-08 Thread Frank Eggink
This can be complex as you have to indicate which relation to use. Does it only work for simple cases? For instance below you have three relations to the field person.name 1. one direct 2. via father 3. via mother Table person(name, father_fk, mother_fk); Translating to: class person {

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-07 Thread Frank Eggink
I guess I'm using neither. The clue is that, when you stick to the rules, you have to write the minimum one panel and one table per dataobject as all the access to the properties is done via methods and each of those methods is specific for the dataobjects (e.g. getName(), setName(x)). When

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-07 Thread Cory Adams
I just received JBuilder 4 Enterprise and I will say that it does an amazing job at EJB so far. You can connect to a datasource via JDBC and pick your tables and keys for Entity CMP. It's amazing. I'm still tweaking the deployment descriptors for Orion. Man the money you can save on Orion

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-07 Thread Frank Eggink
Hi Cory, How do they recognize relations between tables? Frank On Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:32 PM, Cory Adams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I just received JBuilder 4 Enterprise and I will say that it does an amazing job at EJB so far. You can connect to a datasource via JDBC and

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-07 Thread Cory Adams
It appears as though you can define/select any number of tables and or fields from different tables to define what makes up the fields within an entity bean. Cory At 10:12 PM 11/7/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote: Hi Cory, How do they recognize relations between tables? Frank On Tuesday,

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-06 Thread Frank Eggink
I'm using Swing instead of JSP. On Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 PM, Cory Adams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Thanks for that update. Do you or does anyone else know of the MVC (model - view - control) pattern used with JSP - Servlets and EJB? I have read that a single servlet becomes

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-06 Thread Cory Adams
Are you using the command or business object pattern? At 08:49 AM 11/6/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote: I'm using Swing instead of JSP. On Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 PM, Cory Adams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Thanks for that update. Do you or does anyone else know of the MVC (model -

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-05 Thread Frank Eggink
My personal trade off was: Why not CMP 2.0 style: - Too scared to use it for real as it is not even officially there ... Why choose for CMP 1.1? - CMP is more portable (across db's). - Working already towards EJB2.0. - The claim is CMP can be optimized better (I would be happy to know more

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-05 Thread Robert Krueger
At 22:23 05.11.00 , you wrote: My personal trade off was: Why not CMP 2.0 style: - Too scared to use it for real as it is not even officially there ... Why choose for CMP 1.1? - CMP is more portable (across db's). - Working already towards EJB2.0. - The claim is CMP can be optimized better (I

RE: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-05 Thread Cory Adams
Thanks for that update. Do you or does anyone else know of the MVC (model - view - control) pattern used with JSP - Servlets and EJB? I have read that a single servlet becomes that controlling mechanism to the EJBs. I wondering how that is done? Cory At 10:23 PM 11/5/00 +0100, Frank Eggink

Re: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-04 Thread Robert Krueger
A Hmmm. I can find even less regarding 1.1 CMP. I have the ORielly book as well as the Mastering EJB books. The 2.0 spec is what I'm using because I would think (perhaps wrongly) that EJB 2.0 would maybe be easier and or offer more functionality??? Chapters 9 and 10 are over 100 pages

BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-03 Thread Cory Adams
I have looked through the 2.0 spec and find the chapters regarding CMP to be daunting. It appears as though the complexity of writing my own SQL in BMP has to be balanced against learning an entire new way of managin persistence within the XML deployment descriptors which seems to be no less or

Re: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-03 Thread Robert Krueger
At 11:23 03.11.00 , you wrote: I have looked through the 2.0 spec and find the chapters regarding CMP to be daunting. It appears as though the complexity of writing my own SQL in BMP has to be balanced against learning an entire new way of managin persistence within the XML deployment

Re: BMP vs CMP with Orion

2000-11-03 Thread Cory Adams
At 11:44 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Robert Krueger wrote: At 11:23 03.11.00 , you wrote: I have looked through the 2.0 spec and find the chapters regarding CMP to be daunting. It appears as though the complexity of writing my own SQL in BMP has to be balanced against learning an entire new way of managin