Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Helmut Kudrnovsky]

Matt Wilkie wrote
>> https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/
> 
> I get "sorry that page doesn't exist", and I am logged in. I don't see it
> under "All Projects" or "Community Projects" either.
> 
> More generally: It's extremely heartening to see a new Osgeo website on a
> mainstream platform and looking current and relevant. As for Osgeo4W. It's
> used by many thousands of people but maintained by less than a handful,
> with herculean effort. I know this has been stated already in this thread,
> but I wish to underline that fact!  *All hail Jurgen, Markus, and Martin
> *for
> their sustained effort to keep Osgeo4w ticking these last few years.
> 
> 
> *>>>insert vaguely formulated thoughts about how someone else (osgeo,
> vienna, anonymous hero, ...), could provide some community building and
> support resources to ensure health and continuity of the osgeo4w
> ecosystem.
> Recognizing that the download infrastructure and website from Osgeo are
> huge supports, but they're not enough for vitality. Our 3 heroes can't or
> won't do this indefinitely. <<<*
> 
> Matt

Matt,

thanks for your feedback. your suggestions will be compiled into the
website.

Kind regards
Helmut




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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Matt Wilkie]

> https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/

I get "sorry that page doesn't exist", and I am logged in. I don't see it
under "All Projects" or "Community Projects" either.

More generally: It's extremely heartening to see a new Osgeo website on a
mainstream platform and looking current and relevant. As for Osgeo4W. It's
used by many thousands of people but maintained by less than a handful,
with herculean effort. I know this has been stated already in this thread,
but I wish to underline that fact!  *All hail Jurgen, Markus, and Martin *for
their sustained effort to keep Osgeo4w ticking these last few years.


*>>>insert vaguely formulated thoughts about how someone else (osgeo,
vienna, anonymous hero, ...), could provide some community building and
support resources to ensure health and continuity of the osgeo4w ecosystem.
Recognizing that the download infrastructure and website from Osgeo are
huge supports, but they're not enough for vitality. Our 3 heroes can't or
won't do this indefinitely. <<<*


Matt


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Andreas,

On Mon, 22. Jan 2018 at 15:08:27 +, Müller, Andreas, Dr. phil. wrote:
> What should be the content for this page? And what must be done to publish
> it? (I can't access https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/)

Good question - all the information is already on the trac site.  So the page
would probably just be a short version of that + marketing noise to fit in.
 
Currently it's a very short version.  And that's why I didn't publish it right
away.  To see it now, you have to sign in using your osgeo id.


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Müller , Andreas , Dr . phil .]

First of all, i think, Osgeo4w is of high importance for users of OSGeo 
Software and should be visible inside the Web Site!

Since Osgeo4w has similarities to OSGeo live, it could be a Initiative, too, 
but i don't see the difference to a project anyway.

What should be the content for this page? And what must be done to publish it? 
(I can't access https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/)

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Am 21. Jan. 2018, um 23:58, "Jürgen E. Fischer" 
mailto:j...@norbit.de>> schrieb:

Hi Markus,

On Sun, 21. Jan 2018 at 23:16:11 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
 So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project
 page.

 FWIW, I have created a stub page in Wordpress for OSGeo4W.  But I have no
 idea how to give editing rights to someone else like the OSGeo4W team
 members.

 Any ideas?

Apparently not necessary - I have access to

https://www.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

Although I think it should be a community project, so I added one at

https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Markus,

On Mon, 22. Jan 2018 at 00:00:03 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
> Ok great!
> ( Feel free to delete my attempt.)

Sorry, already did.  Although it's apparently not yet a community project.
I'll leave jumping through the official hoops to Helmut - later on we can
either publish or remove it ;)


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Markus Neteler]

Am 21.01.2018 11:50 nachm. schrieb "Jürgen E. Fischer" :

Hi Markus,

On Sun, 21. Jan 2018 at 23:16:11 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
> > So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a
project
> > page.

> FWIW, I have created a stub page in Wordpress for OSGeo4W.  But I have no
> idea how to give editing rights to someone else like the OSGeo4W team
> members.

> Any ideas?

Apparently not necessary - I have access to

https://www.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

Although I think it should be a community project, so I added one at

https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/



Ok great!
( Feel free to delete my attempt.)

Markus
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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Markus,

On Sun, 21. Jan 2018 at 23:16:11 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote:
> > So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project
> > page.
 
> FWIW, I have created a stub page in Wordpress for OSGeo4W.  But I have no
> idea how to give editing rights to someone else like the OSGeo4W team
> members.

> Any ideas?

Apparently not necessary - I have access to

https://www.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

Although I think it should be a community project, so I added one at

https://www.osgeo.org/projects/osgeo4w/


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Markus Neteler]

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky  wrote:
> Jody,
>
> the OSGeo4W framework exits since more than 10 years now; the first entry in 
> the OSGeo4W-ML dates back to November 2007.
>
> AFAIK there are few volunteers nowadays [1] to keep the framework running; 
> mainly Jürgen F. and Martin L.; I maintain a small package to
> easily bridge the OSGeo4W framework and R (www.r-project.org) and help in 
> winGRASS if needed; and some other few volunteers helps from time to time.
>
>> Please ask the OSGeo4W team to contact the incubation 
>> committee[https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/] (for edit 
>> access to create a project page).
>
> So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project 
> page.

FWIW, I have created a stub page in Wordpress for OSGeo4W.
But I have no idea how to give editing rights to someone else like the
OSGeo4W team members.

Any ideas?

Markus
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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

[Helmut Kudrnovsky]

Jody,

the OSGeo4W framework exits since more than 10 years now; the first entry in 
the OSGeo4W-ML dates back to November 2007.

AFAIK there are few volunteers nowadays [1] to keep the framework running; 
mainly Jürgen F. and Martin L.; I maintain a small package to
easily bridge the OSGeo4W framework and R (www.r-project.org) and help in 
winGRASS if needed; and some other few volunteers helps from time to time.

> Please ask the OSGeo4W team to contact the incubation 
> committee[https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/] (for edit 
> access to create a project page).

So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project page.

Helmut

[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeo4w-dev/2007-November/date.html
[2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/CoreTeam
 
 

Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 06:15 Uhr
Von: "Jody Garnett"
An: "Helmut Kudrnovsky"
Cc: "OSGeo Discussions" , osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W missing in new website

Helmut do you have any contact details for the OSGeo4W project?  Please ask the 
OSGeo4W team to contact the incubation 
committee[https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/] (for edit access 
to create a project page).
 

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On 20 January 2018 at 12:45, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
mailto:hel...@web.de]> wrote:Hi community,

as we've seen in the Google Code‑in contest and students' feedback, MS windows 
is still an
important operating system within the user base of the OSGeo stack.

Beside the windows standalone installers of e.g. QGIS or winGRASS (both are 
based upon OSGeo4W),
the OSGeo4W framework itself is a very important platform to deliver the OSGeo 
stack to the users
of this operating system.

As an example, when I'm helping winGRASS users on the GRASS user ML, I'm often 
refering to use OSGeo4W-winGRASS
in order to check if the issue/problem is also there.

Furthermore, OSGeo4W is also an important testing platform as it's possible to 
use/test the latest greatest dailys of
e.g. QGIS3 or GRASS7.4svn on the windows operating system.

Another example, University of Vienna deploys OSGeo4W to all its public 
students PCs.

Searching [1] and screening the new website, there seems to be no information 
about/no link to OSGeo4W [2].

Is this intentional? Just overseen?

OSGeo will loose new and interested users of the OSGeo software stack when no 
one can find the nice framework for the still
most used operating system.

Kind regards
Helmut

OSGeo charter member

[1] https://www.osgeo.org/search/OSGeo4W[https://www.osgeo.org/search/OSGeo4W]
[2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/[https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/]
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[osgeo4w-dev] OSGeo Code Sprint March 2018 in Bonn - join us and please register soon

[OSGeo Code Sprint]

Dear developers,

OSGeo Code Sprint will come to Bonn (Germany) in March 2018 [1]. You are 
invited to join us.


When:

- Sun 2018-⁠⁠03-⁠⁠19 12:00 noon -⁠⁠ Sun 2018-⁠⁠03-⁠⁠25 12:00 noon

Where:

- Venue & Accommodation: BaseCamp Bonn (For more informations: 
http://www.basecamp-bonn.com/)


- Accomodation Booking System: 
http://www.bonn-region.de/events/fossgis.html


Interested? So read more about why & where & when...

The Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) has a long tradition of 
organizing code sprints for developers of Open Source GIS software.


For several years the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) [1] has 
been organizing a yearly Code Sprint, a come-together of the "C Tribe" 
OSGeo projects - now we call it OSGeo Code Sprint. Leading developers of 
projects like GDAL, PostGIS, MapServer, QGIS, PDAL, and many more get 
together to discuss new ideas, hack, decide, tackle large geospatial 
problems & more & simply to have fun.


In 2018 the OSGeo Code Sprint will come again to Europe after Vienna 
(2014) [6] and Paris in (2016) [4]. This makes is possible to embed 
European developers and users.
The tradition started in 2011 with Toronto [11], then New York [10], 
Montreal [9], Island Wood [8] and Boston [7]. And went to Philadelphia 
in 2015 [5] and last year to Daytona Beach (2017) [3]. Find a list of 
code sprints at [12].


OSGeo Code Sprint 2018 in Bonn
--
This year the international code sprint of the OSGeo will take place 
from 19 to 25 March 2018 simultaneously with the FOSSGIS Conference 2018 
in Bonn. We offer a setting so that individual projects can meet for 
their code sprint.


The code sprint will take place at BaseCamp in Bonn. During the FOSS4G 
2016 in Bonn we have already organized a code sprint at this location, 
in which about 100 developers worked on the open source projects every 
day. (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Code_Sprint). It is a 
really awesome location. Codesprint and accommodations are combined in 
one hall and you will live in a caravan, bus or cabin.


Check out http://www.basecamp-bonn.com/ for details about the venue.

Acommodations
-
Working zones will be created for you in the breakfast area and 
hallways. Healthy and not-so-healthy catering of drinks and snacks will 
be provided by us. Participation in codesprint is free of charge. 
However, overnight stays will have to be reserved and paid for by 
yourself.


BaseCamp is an indoor campground and offers different caravans, night 
sleepers, Airstreams, a Trabant, Volkswagen transporter and other places 
to stay.


If you prefer to stay in a hotel - no problem. Bonnox Boardinghouse is 
close-by. And you also find many great hotels in Bonn.


Book your room soon
---
As the accommodations are as well available to FOSSGIS 2018 participants 
we will make an effort to make advance booking possible for you a few 
days ahead, to ensure you have the opportunity to sleep on-site and wrap 
up the evenings jointly.
Therefore, please book your accomondation as soon as possible via the 
booking system http://www.bonn-region.de/events/fossgis.html



Register for the OSGeo Code Sprint
-
And don't forget to sign up in the OSGeo wiki at our OSGeo Code Spint 
2018 page:

 https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Code_Sprint_2018

This is important for us, not only for the planning of snacks and 
drinks.



The OSGeo Code Sprint is open to all who wish to participate in one or 
more projects. There is always plenty to do – it’s not all about 
programming. Translation, documentation, feedback, discussions, testing 
– all this is also important for projects so everyone is cordially 
invited to attend the codesprint!


The Codesprint Organizing Team is looking forward to your coming!

Summarily:

When:

 Sun 2018-⁠⁠03-⁠⁠19 12:00 noon -⁠⁠ Sun 2018-⁠⁠03-⁠⁠25 12:00 noon

Where:

Venue & Accommodation: BaseCamp. (For more informations: 
http://www.basecamp-bonn.com/)


Accomodation Booking System: 
http://www.bonn-region.de/events/fossgis.html


Questions/⁠⁠Comments/⁠⁠Ideas

Questions?

If you have questions/comments/ideas please let us know.

Send an email to codespr...@osgeo.org. You are welcome!

See you in Bonn in march 2018!

The OSGeo Code Sprint 2018 Team

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Code_Sprint_2018
[2] http://www.osgeo.org
[3] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Daytona_Beach_Code_Sprint_2017
[4] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Paris_Code_Sprint_2016
[5] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Code_Sprint_2015
[6] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Vienna_Code_Sprint_2014
[7] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Boston_Code_Sprint_2013
[8] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/IslandWood_Code_Sprint_2012
[9] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Montreal_Code_Sprint_2011
[10] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_York_Code_Sprint_2010
[11] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Toronto_Code_Sprint_2009
[12] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Code_Sprints
[13] Booking Sys

[osgeo4w-dev] osgeo

[Daniel Duval]

I'm very new to python in general and am having difficulty installing osgeo.
I have Python 3.5 and am using Anaconda3 (64bit) to run some Jupyter
Notebook scripts, which require osgeo.  I've tried numerous sites to try an
install it or gdal, but I can't get python to recognize the install.  I
followed the instructions here :

 

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

 

But Jupyter still can't find osgeo.  

 

Zac Duval

 

 



 

Zac Duval

 

Coastal Scientist

 

Woods Hole Group, Inc.

81 Technology Park Dr.

East Falmouth, MA  02536

 

Office: 508-540-8080

Fax: 508-540-1001

 

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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W orphaned?

[Martin Landa]

Hi,

2015-11-15 0:36 GMT+01:00 Jürgen E. :

> No.   But it's mostly only getting updates on GRASS (but only 32bit) and QGIS.
> Dependencies are usually only updated if required.  And I'm not sure if

from GRASS side, we are prepared for GDAL 2.0. Personaly I would like
to see GDAL 2.0 in OSGeo4W ASAP. Is there anything I can do for it?

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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W orphaned?

[Howard Butler]

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Helmut,
> 
> On Sat, 14. Nov 2015 at 23:18:36 +0100, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
>> Is OSGeo4W orphaned? 
> 
> No.   But it's mostly only getting updates on GRASS (but only 32bit) and QGIS.
> Dependencies are usually only updated if required.  And I'm not sure if
> everything in OSGeo4W is ready to work with GDAL 2 (IIRC OTB doesn't support
> GDAL 2 yet).

No, not orphaned. PDAL also uses OSGeo4W64 as its main Windows distribution 
mechanism. 

It may be a bit early to jump on the "GDAL 2.x+ only" packaging scenario, 
especially for many packages. Maybe we should explore keeping 1.x and 2.x GDAL 
separate for a while as the packages slowly catch up. Not ideal, I know.

Howard
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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W orphaned?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Helmut,

On Sat, 14. Nov 2015 at 23:18:36 +0100, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
> Is OSGeo4W orphaned? 

No.   But it's mostly only getting updates on GRASS (but only 32bit) and QGIS.
Dependencies are usually only updated if required.  And I'm not sure if
everything in OSGeo4W is ready to work with GDAL 2 (IIRC OTB doesn't support
GDAL 2 yet).


Jürgen

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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo] #1256: python liblas error

[OSGeo]

#1256: python liblas error
--+-
 Reporter:  garret12  |   Owner:  osgeo4w-dev@…  
 Type:  defect|  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  OSGeoLive7.9   
Component:  OSGeo4W   |Keywords:  liblas 
--+-
Changes (by hamish):

  * milestone:  OSGeoLive7.0 => OSGeoLive7.9


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[osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo] #1256: python liblas error

[OSGeo]

#1256: python liblas error
--+-
 Reporter:  garret12  |   Owner:  osgeo4w-dev@…  
 Type:  defect|  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone:  OSGeoLive7.0   
Component:  OSGeo4W   |Keywords:  liblas 
--+-
 From fresh install of OSGeoLive 7.0, I get this error when trying to
 import liblas in python

 >>> from liblas import file
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "", line 1, in 
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/liblas/__init__.py", line 2, in
 
 from core import get_version
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/liblas/core.py", line 157, in
 
 las = ctypes.CDLL(lib_name)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/ctypes/__init__.py", line 365, in __init__
 self._handle = _dlopen(self._name, mode)

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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Matt Wilkie]

The RFC looks good to me too. The process of introducing and passing 
proposals is straightforward, with a process for working through 
dispute, using methods that we've seen used successfully elsewhere.


I don't have anything to add, except perhaps a mention that 
adding/removing individual packages from the distribution doesn't 
/necessarily /need an RFC, but that it is good form to announce on the 
mailing list in advance of intention to do so.


cheers,

matt wilkie

Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
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On 25/09/2013 3:34 PM, Tamas Szekeres wrote:

Frank,

The RFC  looks pretty 
good, thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm 
keen on writing a second one where we could start thinking about the 
primary objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I 
think we all have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating 
windows builds (both positive and negative) which makes it possible to 
find out the right direction to follow.


I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other 
platforms may apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary 
distributions, there might be some common aspects, though.


Best regards,

Tamas



2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam >


Folks,

I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
there.

http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev

I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
between different packaging efforts.

Best regards,
Frank



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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Landon Blake]

I do a lot of open source development on Windows. I'm interested in
supporting this new direction for OSGeo4W. I especially like the idea of
helping Windows programmers set-up build environments for open source GIS
packages.

Landon


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Tamas Szekeres  wrote:

> Frank,
>
> The RFC  looks pretty good,
> thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on
> writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary
> objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all
> have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both
> positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right
> direction to follow.
>
> I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms
> may apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions,
> there might be some common aspects, though.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tamas
>
>
>
> 2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam 
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
>> OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
>> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
>> there.
>>
>>  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
>>
>> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
>> between different packaging efforts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook 
>> wrote:
>> > The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
>> > privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
>> > smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no
>> mysql
>> > etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
>> > many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
>> > windows 8 VM to test on at last.
>> >
>> > I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
>> > spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some
>> work
>> > to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which
>> files
>> > I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
>> > repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
>> > honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on
>> things
>> > outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
>> > guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to
>> issues
>> > in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little
>> pet
>> > project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
>> >
>> > Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
>> >
>> > I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
>> > project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
>> > maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's
>> always
>> > better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
>> > objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows
>> for
>> > each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to
>> oversee
>> > that and go through incubation.
>> >
>> > Jo
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <
>> tech_...@wildintellect.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <
>> gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few
>> weeks
>> >> >> incubation process.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> Angelos
>> >> >>
>> >> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
>> >> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the
>> great
>> >> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
>> >> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
>> >>
>> >> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
>> >> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
>> >>
>> >> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
>> >> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by
>> extensively
>> >> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
>> >> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
>> >> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
>> >> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
>> >> folder).
>> >>
>> >> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
>> >> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
>> >> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
>> >> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtu

Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Helmut Kudrnovsky]

>We already do that for QGIS - the NSIS standalone/double-click installer is
>created from OSGeo4W packages.

the same for winGRASS-standalone/double-click installer, it's also based
upon OSGeo4W

>So for me that already works quite well and I'm not really tempted to throw
it
>all overboard and start from scratch.

the same for winGRASS






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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi,

On Wed, 25. Sep 2013 at 15:36:17 -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> I agree with you, Daniel and Jurgen that we would be focused on windows
> though I am optimistic that OSGeo4W could also be a source for those trying
> to make custom windows installers (ie. Portable GIS, what I used to do with
> FWTools and possibly even Jeff with MS4W).

We already do that for QGIS - the NSIS standalone/double-click installer is
created from OSGeo4W packages.

So for me that already works quite well and I'm not really tempted to throw it
all overboard and start from scratch.


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Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Frank Warmerdam]

Tamas,

I agree with you, Daniel and Jurgen that we would be focused on windows
though I am optimistic that OSGeo4W could also be a source for those trying
to make custom windows installers (ie. Portable GIS, what I used to do with
FWTools and possibly even Jeff with MS4W).

Once we have a PSC, we need to discuss direction and then nail a plan down
and agree to it.

Best regards,
Frank


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Tamas Szekeres  wrote:

> Frank,
>
> The RFC  looks pretty good,
> thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on
> writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary
> objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all
> have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both
> positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right
> direction to follow.
>
> I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms
> may apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions,
> there might be some common aspects, though.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tamas
>
>
>
> 2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam 
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
>> OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
>> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
>> there.
>>
>>  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
>>
>> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
>> between different packaging efforts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook 
>> wrote:
>> > The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
>> > privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
>> > smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no
>> mysql
>> > etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
>> > many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
>> > windows 8 VM to test on at last.
>> >
>> > I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
>> > spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some
>> work
>> > to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which
>> files
>> > I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
>> > repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
>> > honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on
>> things
>> > outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
>> > guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to
>> issues
>> > in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little
>> pet
>> > project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
>> >
>> > Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
>> >
>> > I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
>> > project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
>> > maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's
>> always
>> > better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
>> > objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows
>> for
>> > each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to
>> oversee
>> > that and go through incubation.
>> >
>> > Jo
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <
>> tech_...@wildintellect.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <
>> gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few
>> weeks
>> >> >> incubation process.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> Angelos
>> >> >>
>> >> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
>> >> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the
>> great
>> >> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
>> >> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
>> >>
>> >> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
>> >> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
>> >>
>> >> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
>> >> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by
>> extensively
>> >> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
>> >> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
>> >> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
>> >> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
>> >> folder).
>> >>
>> >> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
>> >> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't per

Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Tamas Szekeres]

Frank,

The RFC  looks pretty good,
thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on
writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary
objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all
have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both
positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right
direction to follow.

I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms may
apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions,
there might be some common aspects, though.

Best regards,

Tamas



2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam 

> Folks,
>
> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
> OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
> there.
>
>  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
>
> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
> between different packaging efforts.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook 
> wrote:
> > The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
> > privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
> > smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no mysql
> > etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
> > many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
> > windows 8 VM to test on at last.
> >
> > I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
> > spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some
> work
> > to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which
> files
> > I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
> > repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
> > honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on
> things
> > outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
> > guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to
> issues
> > in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little
> pet
> > project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
> >
> > Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
> >
> > I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
> > project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
> > maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's
> always
> > better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
> > objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows
> for
> > each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to
> oversee
> > that and go through incubation.
> >
> > Jo
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <
> gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Daniel,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks
> >> >> incubation process.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Angelos
> >> >>
> >> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
> >> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great
> >> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
> >> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
> >>
> >> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
> >> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
> >>
> >> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
> >> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by extensively
> >> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
> >> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
> >> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
> >> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
> >> folder).
> >>
> >> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
> >> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
> >> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
> >> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization
> >> software.
> >>
> >> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't
> >> be shared.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alex
> >> ___
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> disc...@lists.osgeo.org
> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
> KT18
> > 7RL, UK
> > t:+44 7930 524 155
> 

Re: [osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO4W future

[Paolo Cavallini]

Done, thanks. Glad to see things are moving.
I think before tackling the tech issues, we have a problem with 
governance here: once we have a PSC, we can go on deciding the way to 
go. Before that, we risk having discussions, duplications, and few 
packages.

Glad to see we have a good response now.
Thanks Frank.
All the best.

On 2013-09-21 04:20, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

Paolo,

As you know I am in support of establishing a PSC for the OSGeo4W
project, and would be pleased to participate.  I would encourage you
to email osgeo4w-dev and lets get this under way.

(unable to sleep at 3am in Notthingham)

Best regards,
Frank

On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Paolo Cavallini
 wrote:


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Hi all.
OSGEO4W is a crucial piece of our infrastructure, and is one of the
main services we are giving for the spread of GFOSS.
I think it does not get the attention it deserves. The active
developer team is very small, many packages are obsolete, and their
update is far from regular. Im not blaming everybody, I sincerely
thank those who contribute; I just try to be objective. I think we
should move forward quickly. I suggest to make a Steering Committee
for OSGEO4W, so to have a clear roadmap, and give Windows (urgh!)
users a predictable environment. I think some of our million users
would be happy to support this effort, if they would know they
contribute actively to something they need.
My previous efforts to raise this question and to improve the
situation have met with no success. I think time is now ripe to
act.
Im available to help.
All the best, and thanks.
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[osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo] #760: Marble crashes when zooming in 17 times

[OSGeo]

#760: Marble crashes when zooming in 17 times
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 Reporter:  camerons  |   Owner:  osgeo4w-dev@…  
 Type:  defect|  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal|   Milestone: 
Component:  OSGeo4W   |Keywords:  5.0 marble 
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 I opened Marble from the OSGeo-Live DVD 5.0rc1, http://live.osgeo.org
 (which is an extension of Xubuntu 10.04)

 I then searched for "Sydney" and looked at Sydney successfully.
 I then pressed the "+" zoom in button 17 times, reasonably quickly. After
 the 17th time, the application crashed and offered me to send a KDE bug
 report. (possibly could have been 16 or 18 times).

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[osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo] #662: Update pyspatialite in osgeo4w package to support spatialite 2.4.0rc

[OSGeo]

#662: Update pyspatialite in osgeo4w package to support spatialite 2.4.0rc
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 Type:  task   |  Status:  new
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 Actually the pyspatialite in the osgeo4w package will support the old
 spatialite 2.3.1.
 Is possible to update the pyspatialite to support the last spatialite
 2.4.0rc4 ?

 Thx,

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[osgeo4w-dev] [OSGeo] #661: Update psycopg2 in osgeo4 package

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#661: Update psycopg2 in osgeo4 package
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 Priority:  normal   |   Milestone: 
Component:  OSGeo4W  |Keywords: 
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 Hi,

 is possible to update the library psycopg2 available in the osgeo4 package
 to the last stable version (http://initd.org/psycopg/) ?
 It resolve some bugs, use the large-objects, two phase commit, the use of
 hstore and so on...

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