Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Yes Doug,

while space is always open it sometimes seems cramped and almost shut down.
In my experience OST has always led to expand space... mostly quite 
dramatically and  at one time so drastically that a day after the event 
the sponsor shut down his organisation, out of the blue it seemed.


For my work, its important that I try to remember that it is always 
open. Thats the starting point. I dont have to do anything about opening 
space. I did nothing to have the space open, it already is in that mode.


It can be entered into and if it appears tiny, OST will enlarge it so 
that the force of selforganisation can do its stuff more easily.


By the same token whatever space is available can be contracted, 
specifically by exercising control... never to zero, however.


At first, I befriended the analogy to working on a batch of clay on a 
potters wheel. Getting into it a bit more, I found it not working for me.


As a potter I see myself forming a vessel out of a batch of clay. There 
is no initial space of the kind I think of when looking at the space for 
selforganisation. To be a vessel it needs to have three dimensions.


I wonder how many dimensions a space has with the phenomenon "force of 
selforganisation" added and as we just discovered the forces that 
Einstein predicted a hundred years ago  doing its thing in that space 
since the beginning of time, and, another wonder, even before the 
beginning of time.
I wonder whether my perceptions, assumptions, ideas, concepts, etc. on 
the phenomenon we are dealing with can be of use. I can "see" the 
effects of the phenomenon I call "force of selforganisation" and how 
"space" plays into it.


However, I no longer agitate myself with my condition of not "grasping" it.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp





 21.12.2015 02:38, doug via OSList wrote:

MMP--

Think of a bowl on a potter's wheel--it is open--now it is open
more--soon it will be open even more.

Even though the space is already open, we can always open it more. So
opening space matters!

:- Doug. Germann






On 12/20/2015 10:27 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:

Dear Alan,

assuming that space is always open, asking what can or could open space
somehow doesn't fit.

There seems to be no need to open something thats been open all along.
Unless, of course, this is a scam to pull someones leg or to get someone
to pay you a wad.

So, what then on earth is Open Space Technology for?

It could not possibly be such stuff as increasing knowledge or wealth or
bliss or joy or fun or participation or passion or creativity or
innovation or team work or  stuff that myriads of approaches tend to
and some are pretty good at it.

In the three decades before running into OST at age 56 I worked with
many approaches that were more or less successful in the stuff I
mentioned above.
In some way or another, these various approaches did not match my
interest in seeing teams, groups, projects, organisations or
neighborhoods unfold from within. There was always a need for
intervention. I got very good at interventions, in fact I was a
champion... but it kept me in the trap that I wanted to escape.
After all, most of what we see or experience happening in the Universe
gets along very well... in fact most of the stuff we see or experience
that happens through human intervention is not so pretty.

After I experienced OST, I immediately started using it... 16 times in
the first year and  a one-day Training form 10am to  10pm and spreading
the word in Berlin. Not only was I hooked but I started to delve into
exploring what was actually going on. Not that I found out and if I
remember correctly a lot of folks were interested in finding the
essence. It was clearly not only a meeting methodology. And one hint
came from the technique of doing one less thing...

Eventually, colleagues began to think that people in an os-event did not
only  self-organize whatever it was they were keenly interested in but
that the force of selforganisation itself found os-events to be the
perfect playground for its antics. The less we meddled and the more we
stood aside (widening the space) the better.

As with space being always open and there being no need to open it, the
force of selforganisation was always active. But it seemed to run up
full steam under the conditions of os-events, especially when
complexity, diversity, conflict, urgency and no single person knowing
the answer were in place.

So, my guess is that it suffices to have the preconditions in place that
the force of selforganisation needs to to fully thrive.
And an OST event is a tried and true way of achieving this simply and
elegantly.

At the same time any approach that supplies the preconditions and avoids
shrinking space for the unfolding of the force of self-organisation will
work.

Greetings from Berlin and have a grand Holiday Season
mmp



On 19.12.2015 08:08, Alan Stewart via OSList wrote:

G’day All


Here’s something for you to ponder over during the 

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

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>> G’day All
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s where my question arises:
>>
>>
>>
>> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
>> novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin *con
>> versare – to turn or to dance together. *See The purpose of *Conversare *
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957>and here
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002> for what it is and what it is not.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right
>> place’ -  the  Adelaide Central Market
>> <http://us6.forward-to-friend.com/forward/show?u=d2a5886c33ebf0bb6486eeb16=8b30b0cef0>
>> and here
>> <http://www.southaustralia.com/en/things-to-do/ideas-and-suggestions/markets>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult
>> with a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, expressing
>> it in this way:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*
>>
>>
>>
>> Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
>> noticed on the OSList:
>>
>>
>>
>> . Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you
>> can.
>> *Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison*
>>
>>
>>
>> . “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.”
>> *Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)*
>>
>>
>>
>> The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS
>> events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space
>> Technology* operating through of the format of sitting in a circle and
>> co-creating a market place of  nominated topics related to the resolution
>> of complex issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the
>> question most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you too.
>>
>>
>>
>> From Anne Stadler:
>>
>>
>>
>> “Here's my current POV [point of view]:
>>
>>
>>
>> Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of forms
>> exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space within, via
>> emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the intention I'm
>> called to take responsibility for. Then the form of the open space will
>> become evident as the opportunity clarifies.
>>
>>
>>
>> A hallmark of opening space with others for me is I must explicitly
>> invite them to "take responsibility for what you love" (Law of Two Feet) or
>> "follow what has heart and meaning."
>>
>>
>>
>> So conversare as you describe it, Alan, would be OS for me, if you'd
>> invite that. In using this approach to conversare, I would encourage people
>> to follow their hearts or intuition & find another person to talk with;
>> asking that person what he/she cares about, & discovering the
>> resonance/connection that exists between you.”
>>
>>
>>
>> From michael herman:
>>
>>
>>
>> “i w

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[doug via OSList]

MMP--

Think of a bowl on a potter's wheel--it is open--now it is open 
more--soon it will be open even more.


Even though the space is already open, we can always open it more. So 
opening space matters!


:- Doug. Germann






On 12/20/2015 10:27 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:

Dear Alan,

assuming that space is always open, asking what can or could open space
somehow doesn't fit.

There seems to be no need to open something thats been open all along.
Unless, of course, this is a scam to pull someones leg or to get someone
to pay you a wad.

So, what then on earth is Open Space Technology for?

It could not possibly be such stuff as increasing knowledge or wealth or
bliss or joy or fun or participation or passion or creativity or
innovation or team work or  stuff that myriads of approaches tend to
and some are pretty good at it.

In the three decades before running into OST at age 56 I worked with
many approaches that were more or less successful in the stuff I
mentioned above.
In some way or another, these various approaches did not match my
interest in seeing teams, groups, projects, organisations or
neighborhoods unfold from within. There was always a need for
intervention. I got very good at interventions, in fact I was a
champion... but it kept me in the trap that I wanted to escape.
After all, most of what we see or experience happening in the Universe
gets along very well... in fact most of the stuff we see or experience
that happens through human intervention is not so pretty.

After I experienced OST, I immediately started using it... 16 times in
the first year and  a one-day Training form 10am to  10pm and spreading
the word in Berlin. Not only was I hooked but I started to delve into
exploring what was actually going on. Not that I found out and if I
remember correctly a lot of folks were interested in finding the
essence. It was clearly not only a meeting methodology. And one hint
came from the technique of doing one less thing...

Eventually, colleagues began to think that people in an os-event did not
only  self-organize whatever it was they were keenly interested in but
that the force of selforganisation itself found os-events to be the
perfect playground for its antics. The less we meddled and the more we
stood aside (widening the space) the better.

As with space being always open and there being no need to open it, the
force of selforganisation was always active. But it seemed to run up
full steam under the conditions of os-events, especially when
complexity, diversity, conflict, urgency and no single person knowing
the answer were in place.

So, my guess is that it suffices to have the preconditions in place that
the force of selforganisation needs to to fully thrive.
And an OST event is a tried and true way of achieving this simply and
elegantly.

At the same time any approach that supplies the preconditions and avoids
shrinking space for the unfolding of the force of self-organisation will
work.

Greetings from Berlin and have a grand Holiday Season
mmp



On 19.12.2015 08:08, Alan Stewart via OSList wrote:

G’day All


Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.


*Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *

* *

Here’s where my question arises:


When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin
/con versare – to turn or to dance together. /See//The purpose of
*Conversare * and here
for what it is and what it is
not.


This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right
place’ - the Adelaide Central Market
and




here

.






With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult

with a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives,
expressing it in this way:


*Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*


**

Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
noticed on the OSList:


. Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as
you can. /Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison/

/ /

. “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.” /Michael M
Pannwitz (mmp)/

/ /

The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and
OS events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space
Technology* operating through of the format of sitting in a circle
and co-creating a market place ofnominated topics related to the
resolution of complex issues.


Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.

Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the
question most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you
too.

From Anne Stadler:

“Here's my current POV 

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList]

Thank you for this image, Doug. 

Christine

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 6:38 PM, doug via OSList  
> wrote:
> 
> MMP--
> 
> Think of a bowl on a potter's wheel--it is open--now it is open more--soon it 
> will be open even more.
> 
> Even though the space is already open, we can always open it more. So opening 
> space matters!
> 
> :- Doug. Germann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/20/2015 10:27 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
>> Dear Alan,
>> 
>> assuming that space is always open, asking what can or could open space
>> somehow doesn't fit.
>> 
>> There seems to be no need to open something thats been open all along.
>> Unless, of course, this is a scam to pull someones leg or to get someone
>> to pay you a wad.
>> 
>> So, what then on earth is Open Space Technology for?
>> 
>> It could not possibly be such stuff as increasing knowledge or wealth or
>> bliss or joy or fun or participation or passion or creativity or
>> innovation or team work or  stuff that myriads of approaches tend to
>> and some are pretty good at it.
>> 
>> In the three decades before running into OST at age 56 I worked with
>> many approaches that were more or less successful in the stuff I
>> mentioned above.
>> In some way or another, these various approaches did not match my
>> interest in seeing teams, groups, projects, organisations or
>> neighborhoods unfold from within. There was always a need for
>> intervention. I got very good at interventions, in fact I was a
>> champion... but it kept me in the trap that I wanted to escape.
>> After all, most of what we see or experience happening in the Universe
>> gets along very well... in fact most of the stuff we see or experience
>> that happens through human intervention is not so pretty.
>> 
>> After I experienced OST, I immediately started using it... 16 times in
>> the first year and  a one-day Training form 10am to  10pm and spreading
>> the word in Berlin. Not only was I hooked but I started to delve into
>> exploring what was actually going on. Not that I found out and if I
>> remember correctly a lot of folks were interested in finding the
>> essence. It was clearly not only a meeting methodology. And one hint
>> came from the technique of doing one less thing...
>> 
>> Eventually, colleagues began to think that people in an os-event did not
>> only  self-organize whatever it was they were keenly interested in but
>> that the force of selforganisation itself found os-events to be the
>> perfect playground for its antics. The less we meddled and the more we
>> stood aside (widening the space) the better.
>> 
>> As with space being always open and there being no need to open it, the
>> force of selforganisation was always active. But it seemed to run up
>> full steam under the conditions of os-events, especially when
>> complexity, diversity, conflict, urgency and no single person knowing
>> the answer were in place.
>> 
>> So, my guess is that it suffices to have the preconditions in place that
>> the force of selforganisation needs to to fully thrive.
>> And an OST event is a tried and true way of achieving this simply and
>> elegantly.
>> 
>> At the same time any approach that supplies the preconditions and avoids
>> shrinking space for the unfolding of the force of self-organisation will
>> work.
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin and have a grand Holiday Season
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19.12.2015 08:08, Alan Stewart via OSList wrote:
>>> G’day All
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *
>>> 
>>> * *
>>> 
>>> Here’s where my question arises:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
>>> novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin
>>> /con versare – to turn or to dance together. /See//The purpose of
>>> *Conversare * and here
>>> for what it is and what it is
>>> not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right
>>> place’ - the Adelaide Central Market
>>> and
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> here
>>> .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult
>>> with a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives,
>>> expressing it in this way:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
>>> noticed on the OSList:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> . Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as
>>> you can. /Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison/
>>> 
>>> / /
>>> 
>>> . “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.” 

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Alan,

Thank you for raising this topic!

I've become more and more confident that "Open Space Technology" is only 
one of many potential technologies that opens space.


Yes, the Universe is self-organizing since before the beginning. Even 
so, it still seems to work to sit in a circle and open a marketplace, etc.


Electricity has always been around. It's still a good idea to set up our 
circuits properly, and pay attention to Ohm's law, etc. etc. etc.


I love it that Anne has thought about opening space in her own heart, 
and that you are looking at opening space in one on one conversations 
with your Conversare (which I have experienced and enjoyed). I'm glad 
others are seeing this as a growing area of study, awareness, and 
discovery! I look forward to learning and hearing more.


Warm Regards,
Harold

On 12/19/15 5:19 AM, Anne Stadler via OSList wrote:

LOVE YOU!!  Thank you dear Alan! Et al.


Your Self
Occupy
100%


A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible

Phone: 206-459-0227
Skype: anne.m.stadler
www.InClaritas.com 
www.CharterforCompassion.org 
www.ProtecttheSacred.org 


On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Alan Stewart > wrote:



G’day All


Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season. 



*Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology?
*

*
*

Here’s where my question arises:


When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a 
novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin 
/con versare – to turn or to dance together. /See//The purpose of 
*Conversare * and here 
for what it is and what it is not.



This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right 
place’ - the Adelaide Central Market 
and 
here 
.



With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult 
with a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, 
expressing it in this way:



*Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*


**

Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently 
noticed on the OSList:



. Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as 
you can.

/Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison/

/
/

. “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.”
/Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)/

/
/

The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS 
events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space 
Technology* operating through of the format of sitting in a circle 
and co-creating a market place ofnominated topics related to the 
resolution of complex issues.



Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.

Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the 
question most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you too.


From Anne Stadler:

“Here's my current POV [point of view]:

Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of 
forms exist.


On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space within, 
via emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the 
intention I'm called to take responsibility for. Then the form of the 
open space will become evident as the opportunity clarifies.


A hallmark of opening space with others for me is I must explicitly 
invite them to "take responsibility for what you love" (Law of Two 
Feet) or "follow what has heart and meaning."


So conversare as you describe it, Alan, would be OS for me, if you'd 
invite that. In using this approach to conversare, I would encourage 
people to follow their hearts or intuition & find another person to 
talk with; asking that person what he/she cares about, & discovering 
the resonance/connection that exists between you.”



From michael herman:

“i would say, absolutely, yes, alan.  this IS open and opening space 
-- fully within the wherever, whomever spirit.  on structure, there 
is the container that is offered, and then all of the decisions that 
are made within it.  you make the offer and leave the details to the 
paired participants to work out for themselves.  i think there is a 
big question or theme, even if it's not explicitly stated.  there is 
a big thing to work out together, and it's going to take everyone. 
 maybe the articulation of this would be something along the lines of 
the bit you shared at vosonos, about "loving the one in front of 
you."  there is nothing in the definition of open space that says we 
have to limit ourselves to questions on which we can make 
"measurable" progress in 90 mins or 2.5 days.  quite the opposite, i 
think!  

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Alan,

assuming that space is always open, asking what can or could open space
somehow doesn't fit.

There seems to be no need to open something thats been open all along.
Unless, of course, this is a scam to pull someones leg or to get someone
to pay you a wad.

So, what then on earth is Open Space Technology for?

It could not possibly be such stuff as increasing knowledge or wealth or
bliss or joy or fun or participation or passion or creativity or
innovation or team work or  stuff that myriads of approaches tend to
and some are pretty good at it.

In the three decades before running into OST at age 56 I worked with
many approaches that were more or less successful in the stuff I
mentioned above.
In some way or another, these various approaches did not match my
interest in seeing teams, groups, projects, organisations or
neighborhoods unfold from within. There was always a need for
intervention. I got very good at interventions, in fact I was a
champion... but it kept me in the trap that I wanted to escape.
After all, most of what we see or experience happening in the Universe
gets along very well... in fact most of the stuff we see or experience
that happens through human intervention is not so pretty.

After I experienced OST, I immediately started using it... 16 times in
the first year and  a one-day Training form 10am to  10pm and spreading
the word in Berlin. Not only was I hooked but I started to delve into
exploring what was actually going on. Not that I found out and if I
remember correctly a lot of folks were interested in finding the
essence. It was clearly not only a meeting methodology. And one hint
came from the technique of doing one less thing...

Eventually, colleagues began to think that people in an os-event did not
only  self-organize whatever it was they were keenly interested in but
that the force of selforganisation itself found os-events to be the
perfect playground for its antics. The less we meddled and the more we
stood aside (widening the space) the better.

As with space being always open and there being no need to open it, the
force of selforganisation was always active. But it seemed to run up
full steam under the conditions of os-events, especially when
complexity, diversity, conflict, urgency and no single person knowing
the answer were in place.

So, my guess is that it suffices to have the preconditions in place that
the force of selforganisation needs to to fully thrive.
And an OST event is a tried and true way of achieving this simply and 
elegantly.


At the same time any approach that supplies the preconditions and avoids
shrinking space for the unfolding of the force of self-organisation will
work.

Greetings from Berlin and have a grand Holiday Season
mmp



On 19.12.2015 08:08, Alan Stewart via OSList wrote:

G’day All


Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.


*Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *

* *

Here’s where my question arises:


When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin
/con versare – to turn or to dance together. /See//The purpose of
*Conversare * and here
for what it is and what it is
not.


This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right
place’ - the Adelaide Central Market
and



here

.





With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult

with a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives,
expressing it in this way:


*Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*


**

Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
noticed on the OSList:


. Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as
you can. /Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison/

/ /

. “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.” /Michael M
Pannwitz (mmp)/

/ /

The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and
OS events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space
Technology* operating through of the format of sitting in a circle
and co-creating a market place ofnominated topics related to the
resolution of complex issues.


Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.

Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the
question most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you
too.

From Anne Stadler:

“Here's my current POV [point of view]:

Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of
forms exist.

On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space
within, via emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the
intention I'm called to take responsibility for. Then the form 

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

It's okay. I try not to take it personally. 

Merry Chrismas. 

:)

Chris. 

-- 
CHRIS CORRIGAN
Harvest Moon Consultants
Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 

Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free 
resources. 



> On Dec 19, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> Don’t feel too badly. I often called Christ Corrigan, “Christ” – Typo, or 
> something, but definitely a most egregious error.
>  
> ho
>  
> Winter Address
> 7808 River Falls Drive
> Potomac, MD 20854
> 301-365-2093
>  
> Summer Address
> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
> Camden, ME 04843
> 207-763-3261
>  
> Websites
> www.openspaceworld.com
> www.ho-image.com
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of 
> OSLIST Go 
> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Barry Owen via OSList
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 9:27 AM
> To: Ethelyn & Harrison Owen; oslist
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Opening space matters
>  
> One more comment, I just reread what I published and there is a reference to 
> God always saying which amuses me because what it should say is what Dad has 
> always said
> 
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be 
> somewhat wonky.
> 
> Barry Owen
> Real Estate Strategist
> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
> Nashville, TN 37215
> 615-568-2123
> 
> http://BarryOwensBlog.com
> http://ParetoRealty.com
> http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
> Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
> Facebook
> Linkedin
> 
> Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
> 
> On Dec 19, 2015 8:24 AM, "Barry Owen" <ba...@paretorealty.com> wrote:
> For me, the more I think about it which I have now for 30 years, I think it 
> is all the same and it is all open space as long as... It begins with true 
> passion / heart and the taking responsibility for that passion through 
> invitation to others who share it. Perhaps this is egregious over 
> simplification, but it's what works in my mind today. I used to get upset 
> when I saw people do something that didn't match with my understanding of 
> open space and called it open space. That no longer bothers me because now I 
> know that as God continues to say and has always said its all open space. For 
> me the technical parts of it are just framing structure which I call training 
> wheels to help people who have been unlearned from the natural course of 
> human interaction and self-organized solution oriented communication. In a 
> sense, a tool, as it were, to help the participants remember their own 
> personal power such that they can acknowledge their true passions and take 
> responsibility through the action of invitation.
> 
> As I am currently walking my dogs on a 24 degree Fahrenheit morning speaking 
> voice to text into a smartphone, this email may make zero sense to anyone. 
> But it is what's in my head right now :-)
> 
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be 
> somewhat wonky.
> 
> Barry Owen
> Real Estate Strategist
> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
> Nashville, TN 37215
> 615-568-2123
> 
> http://BarryOwensBlog.com
> http://ParetoRealty.com
> http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
> Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
> Facebook
> Linkedin
> 
> Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
> 
> On Dec 19, 2015 8:13 AM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now .8?) 
> billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began. We’ve 
> just been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely nothing new. 
> Just an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what we naturally 
> do anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are absolutely 
> correct: “Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make 
> claustrophobia seem like paradise, or so I’ve found.
>  
> Harrison  
>  
> Winter Address
> 7808 River Falls Drive
> Potomac, MD 20854
> 301-365-2093
>  
> Summer Address
> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
> Camden, ME 04843
> 207-763-3261
>  
> Websites
> www.openspaceworld.com
> www.ho-image.com
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of 
> OSLIST Go 
> to:http://lists.o

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Anne Stadler via OSList]

LOVE YOU!!  Thank you dear Alan! Et al.


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A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible

Phone: 206-459-0227
Skype: anne.m.stadler
  
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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Alan Stewart  wrote:
> 
> G’day All
> 
> 
> 
> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.  
> 
>  
> 
> Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? 
> 
> 
> 
> Here’s where my question arises:  
> 
> 
> 
> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a novel 
> form of socialising which I called Conversare from the Latin con versare – to 
> turn or to dance together. See The purpose of Conversare and here for what it 
> is and what it is not.
> 
> 
> 
> This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right place’ - 
>  the  Adelaide Central Market and here.
> 
> 
> 
> With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult with a 
> group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, expressing it in 
> this way:
> 
> 
> 
> Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?
> 
> 
> 
> Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently noticed 
> on the OSList:
> 
> 
> 
> . Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can.
> Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison
> 
> . “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.” 
> Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)
> 
> The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS events 
> are to do with the principles and practice of Open Space Technology operating 
> through of the format of sitting in a circle and co-creating a market place 
> of  nominated topics related to the resolution of complex issues.
> 
> Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format. 
>  
> Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the question 
> most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you too.
>  
> From Anne Stadler:
>  
> “Here's my current POV [point of view]: 
>  
> Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of forms 
> exist. 
>  
> On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space within, via 
> emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the intention I'm 
> called to take responsibility for. Then the form of the open space will 
> become evident as the opportunity clarifies.
>  
> A hallmark of opening space with others for me is I must explicitly invite 
> them to "take responsibility for what you love" (Law of Two Feet) or "follow 
> what has heart and meaning."
>  
> So conversare as you describe it, Alan, would be OS for me, if you'd invite 
> that. In using this approach to conversare, I would encourage people to 
> follow their hearts or intuition & find another person to talk with; asking 
> that person what he/she cares about, & discovering the resonance/connection 
> that exists between you.” 
> 
> From michael herman:
>  
> “i would say, absolutely, yes, alan.  this IS open and opening space -- fully 
> within the wherever, whomever spirit.  on structure, there is the container 
> that is offered, and then all of the decisions that are made within it.  you 
> make the offer and leave the details to the paired participants to work out 
> for themselves.  i think there is a big question or theme, even if it's not 
> explicitly stated.  there is a big thing to work out together, and it's going 
> to take everyone.  maybe the articulation of this would be something along 
> the lines of the bit you shared at vosonos, about "loving the one in front of 
> you."  there is nothing in the definition of open space that says we have to 
> limit ourselves to questions on which we can make "measurable" progress in 90 
> mins or 2.5 days.  quite the opposite, i think!  thanks for all of this.”  
>  
> I have also received supportive comments from locals here about their 
> experience of being in Conversare events and their ideas on potential 
> applications. Among these:
> 
> “Congratulations Alan
> 
> For getting conversare up and running in such an exceptional place.
> 
> And support this idea – not before its time.
> 
> An idea for our time.”
> Tim Walsh
> 
> 
> 
> “What uniquely exciting and practical ideas. And what a way it could be for 
> our wonderful new refugees to learn real English, and perhaps for all of us 
> to at least feel other languages.”
> Andrew Booth
> 
> 
> 
> Here are two closing thoughts to stimulate your 'pondering' ... 
>  
> 1. Could introducing the Conversare process be a way to open space for all 
> attendees to be full participants when we meet and greet in the evening prior 
> to the commencement of WOSonOS?
>  
> Such an approach has not been used in the five of these which I have 
> attended, beginning in Monterey in 1998. Sitting in a circle in this context 
> did not enable everyone to be an active 

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Harrison Owen via OSList]

Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now .8?) 
billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began. We’ve just 
been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely nothing new. Just 
an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what we naturally do 
anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are absolutely correct: 
“Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make claustrophobia seem like 
paradise, or so I’ve found.

 

Harrison  

 

Winter Address

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093

 

Summer Address

189 Beaucaire Ave.

Camden, ME 04843

207-763-3261

 

Websites

www.openspaceworld.com

www.ho-image.com

OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of 
OSLIST Go 
to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org

 

From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Alan 
Stewart via OSList
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; The Art of Hosting
Subject: [OSList] Opening space matters

 

G’day All

 

Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.  

 

Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? 

 

Here’s where my question arises:  

 

When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a novel form 
of socialising which I called Conversare from the Latin con versare – to turn 
or to dance together. See The purpose of  <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957> 
Conversare and  <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002> here for what it is and 
what it is not.

 

This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right place’ -  
the   
<http://us6.forward-to-friend.com/forward/show?u=d2a5886c33ebf0bb6486eeb16=8b30b0cef0>
 Adelaide Central Market and  
<http://www.southaustralia.com/en/things-to-do/ideas-and-suggestions/markets> 
here.

 

With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult with a 
group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, expressing it in this 
way:

 

Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?

 

Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently noticed on 
the OSList:

 

. Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can.
Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison

 

. “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.” 
Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)

 

The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS events 
are to do with the principles and practice of Open Space Technology operating 
through of the format of sitting in a circle and co-creating a market place of  
nominated topics related to the resolution of complex issues.

 

Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.  

  

Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the question 
most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you too. 

 

>From Anne Stadler:

 

“Here's my current POV [point of view]: 

 

Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of forms exist. 

 

On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space within, via 
emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the intention I'm called 
to take responsibility for. Then the form of the open space will become evident 
as the opportunity clarifies.

 

A hallmark of opening space with others for me is I must explicitly invite them 
to "take responsibility for what you love" (Law of Two Feet) or "follow what 
has heart and meaning."

 

So conversare as you describe it, Alan, would be OS for me, if you'd invite 
that. In using this approach to conversare, I would encourage people to follow 
their hearts or intuition & find another person to talk with; asking that 
person what he/she cares about, & discovering the resonance/connection that 
exists between you.” 

 

>From michael herman:

 

“i would say, absolutely, yes, alan.  this IS open and opening space -- fully 
within the wherever, whomever spirit.  on structure, there is the container 
that is offered, and then all of the decisions that are made within it.  you 
make the offer and leave the details to the paired participants to work out for 
themselves.  i think there is a big question or theme, even if it's not 
explicitly stated.  there is a big thing to work out together, and it's going 
to take everyone.  maybe the articulation of this would be something along the 
lines of the bit you shared at vosonos, about "loving the one in front of you." 
 there is nothing in the definition of open space that says we have to limit 
ourselves to questions on which we can make "measurable" progress in 90 mins or 
2.5 days.  quite the opposite, i think!  thanks for all of this.”  

 

I have also received supportive comments from locals here abou

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Barry Owen via OSList]

For me, the more I think about it which I have now for 30 years, I think it
is all the same and it is all open space as long as... It begins with true
passion / heart and the taking responsibility for that passion through
invitation to others who share it. Perhaps this is egregious over
simplification, but it's what works in my mind today. I used to get upset
when I saw people do something that didn't match with my understanding of
open space and called it open space. That no longer bothers me because now
I know that as God continues to say and has always said its all open space.
For me the technical parts of it are just framing structure which I call
training wheels to help people who have been unlearned from the natural
course of human interaction and self-organized solution oriented
communication. In a sense, a tool, as it were, to help the participants
remember their own personal power such that they can acknowledge their true
passions and take responsibility through the action of invitation.

As I am currently walking my dogs on a 24 degree Fahrenheit morning
speaking voice to text into a smartphone, this email may make zero sense to
anyone. But it is what's in my head right now :-)

This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be
somewhat wonky.

Barry Owen
Real Estate Strategist
Principal Broker & Founder
Pareto Realty, LLC
4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
Nashville, TN 37215
615-568-2123

http://BarryOwensBlog.com
http://ParetoRealty.com
http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
Facebook
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Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
On Dec 19, 2015 8:13 AM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now .8?)
> billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began. We’ve
> just been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely nothing
> new. Just an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what we
> naturally do anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are
> absolutely correct: “Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make
> claustrophobia seem like paradise, or so I’ve found.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Drive
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207-763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>
> www.ho-image.com
>
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
> of OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>
>
>
> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Alan Stewart via OSList
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 AM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list; The Art of Hosting
> *Subject:* [OSList] Opening space matters
>
>
>
> G’day All
>
>
>
> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season. 
>
>
>
> *Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *
>
>
>
> Here’s where my question arises:
>
>
>
> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a novel
> form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin *con
> versare – to turn or to dance together. *See The purpose of *Conversare *
> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957>and here
> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002> for what it is and what it is not.
>
>
>
> This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right
> place’ -  the  Adelaide Central Market
> <http://us6.forward-to-friend.com/forward/show?u=d2a5886c33ebf0bb6486eeb16=8b30b0cef0>
> and here
> <http://www.southaustralia.com/en/things-to-do/ideas-and-suggestions/markets>
> .
>
>
>
> With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult with
> a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, expressing it
> in this way:
>
>
>
> *Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*
>
>
>
> Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
> noticed on the OSList:
>
>
>
> . Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you
> can.
> *Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison*
>
>
>
> . “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.”
> *Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)*
>
>
>
> The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS
> events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space
> Technology* operating through of the for

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Barry Owen via OSList]

Having said all of the above, Alan I think your approach is fabulous!

This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be
somewhat wonky.

Barry Owen
Real Estate Strategist
Principal Broker & Founder
Pareto Realty, LLC
4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
Nashville, TN 37215
615-568-2123

http://BarryOwensBlog.com
http://ParetoRealty.com
http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
Facebook
Linkedin

Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
On Dec 19, 2015 8:24 AM, "Barry Owen" <ba...@paretorealty.com> wrote:

> For me, the more I think about it which I have now for 30 years, I think
> it is all the same and it is all open space as long as... It begins with
> true passion / heart and the taking responsibility for that passion through
> invitation to others who share it. Perhaps this is egregious over
> simplification, but it's what works in my mind today. I used to get upset
> when I saw people do something that didn't match with my understanding of
> open space and called it open space. That no longer bothers me because now
> I know that as God continues to say and has always said its all open space.
> For me the technical parts of it are just framing structure which I call
> training wheels to help people who have been unlearned from the natural
> course of human interaction and self-organized solution oriented
> communication. In a sense, a tool, as it were, to help the participants
> remember their own personal power such that they can acknowledge their true
> passions and take responsibility through the action of invitation.
>
> As I am currently walking my dogs on a 24 degree Fahrenheit morning
> speaking voice to text into a smartphone, this email may make zero sense to
> anyone. But it is what's in my head right now :-)
>
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be
> somewhat wonky.
>
> Barry Owen
> Real Estate Strategist
> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
> Nashville, TN 37215
> 615-568-2123
>
> http://BarryOwensBlog.com
> http://ParetoRealty.com
> http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
> Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
> Facebook
> Linkedin
>
> Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
> On Dec 19, 2015 8:13 AM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now
>> .8?) billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began.
>> We’ve just been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely
>> nothing new. Just an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what
>> we naturally do anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are
>> absolutely correct: “Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make
>> claustrophobia seem like paradise, or so I’ve found.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> 301-365-2093
>>
>>
>>
>> Summer Address
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>
>> Camden, ME 04843
>>
>> 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> Websites
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com
>>
>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
>> of OSLIST Go to:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Alan Stewart via OSList
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 AM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list; The Art of Hosting
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Opening space matters
>>
>>
>>
>> G’day All
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s where my question arises:
>>
>>
>>
>> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
>> novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin *con
>> versare – to turn or to dance together. *See The purpose of *Conversare *
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957>and here
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002> for what it is and what it is not.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is now being conducted

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Barry Owen via OSList]

One more comment, I just reread what I published and there is a reference
to God always saying which amuses me because what it should say is what Dad
has always said

This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be
somewhat wonky.

Barry Owen
Real Estate Strategist
Principal Broker & Founder
Pareto Realty, LLC
4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
Nashville, TN 37215
615-568-2123

http://BarryOwensBlog.com
http://ParetoRealty.com
http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
Facebook
Linkedin

Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
On Dec 19, 2015 8:24 AM, "Barry Owen" <ba...@paretorealty.com> wrote:

> For me, the more I think about it which I have now for 30 years, I think
> it is all the same and it is all open space as long as... It begins with
> true passion / heart and the taking responsibility for that passion through
> invitation to others who share it. Perhaps this is egregious over
> simplification, but it's what works in my mind today. I used to get upset
> when I saw people do something that didn't match with my understanding of
> open space and called it open space. That no longer bothers me because now
> I know that as God continues to say and has always said its all open space.
> For me the technical parts of it are just framing structure which I call
> training wheels to help people who have been unlearned from the natural
> course of human interaction and self-organized solution oriented
> communication. In a sense, a tool, as it were, to help the participants
> remember their own personal power such that they can acknowledge their true
> passions and take responsibility through the action of invitation.
>
> As I am currently walking my dogs on a 24 degree Fahrenheit morning
> speaking voice to text into a smartphone, this email may make zero sense to
> anyone. But it is what's in my head right now :-)
>
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be
> somewhat wonky.
>
> Barry Owen
> Real Estate Strategist
> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5
> Nashville, TN 37215
> 615-568-2123
>
> http://BarryOwensBlog.com
> http://ParetoRealty.com
> http://WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> twitter @barryowen @paretorealty
> Instagram - barryo06 - ParetoRealty
> Facebook
> Linkedin
>
> Pareto Realty is #NashvilleProud #HomeGrownRealEstate
> On Dec 19, 2015 8:13 AM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now
>> .8?) billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began.
>> We’ve just been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely
>> nothing new. Just an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what
>> we naturally do anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are
>> absolutely correct: “Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make
>> claustrophobia seem like paradise, or so I’ve found.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
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>> 7808 River Falls Drive
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>> Potomac, MD 20854
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>> 301-365-2093
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>> Summer Address
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>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
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>> Camden, ME 04843
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>> 207-763-3261
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>> Websites
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>> www.ho-image.com
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Alan Stewart via OSList
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 AM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list; The Art of Hosting
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Opening space matters
>>
>>
>>
>> G’day All
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.
>> 
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>>
>>
>> *Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *
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>>
>>
>> Here’s where my question arises:
>>
>>
>>
>> When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a
>> novel form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin *con
>> versare – to turn or to dance together. *See The purpose of *Conversare *
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957>and here
>> <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002>

Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

[Harrison Owen via OSList]

Don’t feel too badly. I often called Christ Corrigan, “Christ” – Typo, or 
something, but definitely a most egregious error.

 

ho

 

Winter Address

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093

 

Summer Address

189 Beaucaire Ave.

Camden, ME 04843

207-763-3261

 

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From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Barry 
Owen via OSList
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 9:27 AM
To: Ethelyn & Harrison Owen; oslist
Subject: Re: [OSList] Opening space matters

 

One more comment, I just reread what I published and there is a reference to 
God always saying which amuses me because what it should say is what Dad has 
always said

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On Dec 19, 2015 8:24 AM, "Barry Owen" <ba...@paretorealty.com> wrote:

For me, the more I think about it which I have now for 30 years, I think it is 
all the same and it is all open space as long as... It begins with true passion 
/ heart and the taking responsibility for that passion through invitation to 
others who share it. Perhaps this is egregious over simplification, but it's 
what works in my mind today. I used to get upset when I saw people do something 
that didn't match with my understanding of open space and called it open space. 
That no longer bothers me because now I know that as God continues to say and 
has always said its all open space. For me the technical parts of it are just 
framing structure which I call training wheels to help people who have been 
unlearned from the natural course of human interaction and self-organized 
solution oriented communication. In a sense, a tool, as it were, to help the 
participants remember their own personal power such that they can acknowledge 
their true passions and take responsibility through the action of invitation.

As I am currently walking my dogs on a 24 degree Fahrenheit morning speaking 
voice to text into a smartphone, this email may make zero sense to anyone. But 
it is what's in my head right now :-)

This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be somewhat 
wonky.

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On Dec 19, 2015 8:13 AM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

Alan I hate to tell you, but you are only 13.7 (I think it is now .8?) 
billion years late. It’s been Open Space since the beginning began. We’ve just 
been a little slow to recognize it. OST provides absolutely nothing new. Just 
an essentially brain dead way to ease ourselves into what we naturally do 
anyhow. Some people even pay us to do all that! But you are absolutely correct: 
“Opening Space Matters.” Living in a closed space make claustrophobia seem like 
paradise, or so I’ve found.

 

Harrison  

 

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Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093

 

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189 Beaucaire Ave.

Camden, ME 04843

207-763-3261

 

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From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Alan 
Stewart via OSList
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; The Art of Hosting
Subject: [OSList] Opening space matters

 

G’day All

 

Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season.  

 

Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? 

 

Here’s where my question arises:  

 

When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a novel form 
of socialising which I called Conversare from the Latin con versare – to turn 
or to dance together. See The purpose of  <http://conversare.net/?page_id=1957> 
Conversare and  <http://conversare.net/?page_id=2002> here for what it is and 
what it is not.

 

This is now being conducted in what may well

[OSList] Opening space matters

[Alan Stewart via OSList]

G’day All


Here’s something for you to ponder over during the Festive Season. 




*Can we open space without the format of Open Space Technology? *


Here’s where my question arises:


When living in Hong Kong for six happy years until 2011 I invented a novel
form of socialising which I called *Conversare* from the Latin *con versare
– to turn or to dance together. *See The purpose of *Conversare *
and here
 for what it is and what it is not.


This is now being conducted in what may well be regarded as a 'right place’
-  the  Adelaide Central Market

and here

.


With regard to my question I recently took the opportunity to consult with
a group of Spaceniks (Raffi’s term!) on their perspectives, expressing it
in this way:


*Is Conversare a variety of Open Space?*


Which, in turn, arose in relation to two issues which I had recently
noticed on the OSList:


. Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can.
*Lively thread of exchanges initiated by Harrison*


. “all OS events I have seen are highly structured.”
*Michael M Pannwitz (mmp)*


The language becomes tricky here as to whether ‘opening space’ and OS
events are to do with the principles and practice of *Open Space Technology*
operating through of the format of sitting in a circle and co-creating a
market place of  nominated topics related to the resolution of complex
issues.


Or whether opening space can be done independently of this format.



Of the thoughtful responses received there are two which answer the
question most ‘wonder fully’ and usefully for me and maybe for you too.



>From Anne Stadler:



“Here's my current POV [point of view]:



Opening a Marketplace is ONE form for OST. In my view all sorts of forms
exist.



On all occasions, the "space" i open FIRST is the heart space within, via
emptying my mind & getting meditatively in touch with the intention I'm
called to take responsibility for. Then the form of the open space will
become evident as the opportunity clarifies.



A hallmark of opening space with others for me is I must explicitly invite
them to "take responsibility for what you love" (Law of Two Feet) or
"follow what has heart and meaning."



So conversare as you describe it, Alan, would be OS for me, if you'd invite
that. In using this approach to conversare, I would encourage people to
follow their hearts or intuition & find another person to talk with; asking
that person what he/she cares about, & discovering the resonance/connection
that exists between you.”


>From michael herman:



“i would say, absolutely, yes, alan.  this IS open and opening space --
fully within the wherever, whomever spirit.  on structure, there is the
container that is offered, and then all of the decisions that are made
within it.  you make the offer and leave the details to the paired
participants to work out for themselves.  i think there is a big question
or theme, even if it's not explicitly stated.  there is a big thing to work
out together, and it's going to take everyone.  maybe the articulation of
this would be something along the lines of the bit you shared at vosonos,
about "loving the one in front of you."  there is nothing in the definition
of open space that says we have to limit ourselves to questions on which we
can make "measurable" progress in 90 mins or 2.5 days.  quite the opposite,
i think!  thanks for all of this.”



I have also received supportive comments from locals here about their
experience of being in *Conversare* events and their ideas on potential
applications. Among these:


“Congratulations Alan

For getting conversare up and running in such an exceptional place.

And support this idea – not before its time.

An idea for our time.”
*Tim Walsh*


“What uniquely exciting and practical ideas. And what a way it could be for
our wonderful new refugees to learn real English, and perhaps for all of us
to at least feel other languages.”
*Andrew Booth*


Here are two closing thoughts to stimulate your 'pondering' ...



1. Could introducing the *Conversare* process be a way to open space for
all attendees to be full participants when we meet and greet in the evening
prior to the commencement of WOSonOS?



Such an approach has not been used in the five of these which I have
attended, beginning in Monterey in 1998. Sitting in a circle in this
context did not enable everyone to be an active participant, in my
experience. Seeds have been sown and are likely sprouting in Manila …


2. Could hosting *Conversare* kind of gatherings be a new career option for
lively spirits who are so inclined? If this idea catches your attention do
have a good look around my blog as this has a wealth of background on its
principles, practices and inspirations. See also Some