Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place I
don't know... which is to say that I probably wouldn't say what you say in
the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my "translator" it comes out
sounding pretty good! So... I can't help with the questions you have raised.
Act
Anne - How wonderful to "see" you here. Spirited Work was a great experience
and experiment. We all learned, with many thanks to yourself!
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Christine, my only personal experience is with Developmentally Disabled (We
might say “slow”), but I’ve heard of OS’s with psychiatric populations. In both
cases the Open Space worked just as usual, and people seemed surprised that the
participants were more functional in Open Space than they we
Dan - if the issue is critical, tomorrow morning will do - and "normal
channels" will do the job. Normal Channels being all the usual way folks
communicate issues and concerns. Could be at the coffee pot, Facebook,
Twitter... whatever. If they care, they will communicate. And if they don't
care...W
John -- I’m rather curious what you meant by “The overall project was more
complicated than OST?” My confusion comes in part from my experience that
complexity is actually an essential precondition for OST, or more exactly the
effective operation of self organization. The essential pre-condition
e issues that appear in the
Proceedings, immediately following the event.
If the Sponsor is missing even one of these properties, is it advised to
proceed at all?
Daniel
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John -- I’m rather curious what you meant by “The overall pro
Christine - on the subject of "follow-through" - I hear what you are saying,
and it is a frustration that a lot of people seem to have. But frankly, I
don't share it. At the end of the day, stuff gets done when people care to
do it. I know of no plan, method, incantation that changes that equation.
Peggy - Great comments! And I might take issue on a small point. You said,
"Public events don't have the context of an existing culture." Do you really
mean that? Or would it be more appropriate to say that such (public) events
do have a cultural context... but it is different. In this case the
"cu
John – Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of a Tidal Wave, but
that’s when it gets fun, albeit a tad difficult to keep track of the sundry
bits and pieces J
Picking Just One: “But I can't get past the feeling that there are lots of
barriers to the openness of space, and to s
Dan said: “... in human systems, there is no such thing as self-organization,
whatsoever, unless and until "respect" is successfully sent, and successfully
received, by and between the members.”
Interesting idea... There is no question in my mind that respect is critical to
effective human i
Dan (and anybody else who cares) just for the record and whatever... From
the VERY BEGINNING, OST has been FREE for whomsoever. My (as the
originator, discoverer, whatever) only condition is that we share what we
have learned.
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I’m not quite sure what motivated the search for the “earliest” reference to
“holding space” or Open Space, but I can assure anybody who cares that in one
form or another it substantially predates the Quakers and, obviously, me. As
Jeff correctly observes, my usage was first in context that had
I don’t know about Disney, but a friend who is writing a book with the Dali
Lama’s brother recently told me, “You'll be happy to know that I introduced
researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute in Dharamsala to Open Space.” I don’t
know where this takes us... but...
And it did occur to me t
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I’m not quite sure what motivated the search for the “earliest” refere
ll find a way. Could we better
consider "Sponsor" support as the "will" of the Group? And if the will of the
Group is at odds with the Boss's will, how do we tell when it'll be
ok/safe/legal to run OST despite the Boss "just saying no"?
Thanks!
Lots of memories, and no small amount of history... And Jeff you are precisely
right. The electronic conversation began well before its current format – which
is actually OSLIST 3.0. In the beginning there was TMN (The MetaNetwork) – the
brainchild and baby of an old friend and colleague, Frank
Ran into this website somehow. I’m not sure who or what Sys-Tao might be, but
it sounded interesting and familiar...
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It might seem like a pure ego trip, and if so - please forgive. But I do
think there might be something here. Please enjoy. ho
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Yo Harrison,
Couple questions:
1. Does everyone get what they want, in the long run?
2. Do intentions = results ...and vice versa?
Daniel
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It migh
Tell Tom to Join in! He’s welcome!! And you could also tell him that I do
believe he is working much too hard. No need to “plan” the subversion. Seems to
happen quite regularly, all by itself. Could cite instances, all of which would
be embarrassing to some folks... But over the last several y
The New York Times published a long and most interesting article. I am sure
we will hear more of its author, but in the interim I heartily recommend a
good hard read. It is a little bit of a slog, but worth every step. I think
it has special relevance for anybody concerned with Open Space either as
tater:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Vaill#Professorships_and_works
Daniel
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The New York Times published a long and most interesting article. I am sure
we will hear more of its author, but in the interim I heartily recommend a
good hard read. I
John – I’m not sure there is an “official story” (“the Official Story that Open
Space doesn't work in parallel.”) But if so, I guess I am the guilty party. At
least that is what I wrote in “The User’s Guide.” Anyhow... nothing
doctrinaire about it, but that had been my experience, and I think t
Open Space, in its "original" form is sparse simplicity to say the least.
Ten to fifteen minutes introduction, and it is off the races, or in my case,
off to take a nap. The evolution of this format followed a simple dictum:
"Think of one more thing NOT to do." Over time in my practice I simply
rem
Brian... Nice to hear from you. And, as you already know or will shortly
find out, solid research regarding Open Space is in very short supply. For
reasons best known to itself, Academe has assiduously avoided the subject.
With the exception of a few dissertations, all good and useful to be sure,
t
Michael -- I think I lost the suit. Or at least the last time I remember it
was for my daughter's wedding. Gone-Zo! And Dan... your comments are
devastating I think. But the good news is that folks are talking. Next step
will be their recognition of the cognitive dissonance between their words
(and
might just end up stuck.
Ho hum.
Paul Levy
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Open Space, in its “original” form is sparse simplicity to say the least. Ten
to fifteen minutes introduction, and it is off the races, or in my case, off to
take a nap. Th
Christine – Why am I not surprised that everything went perfectly? Well done!!
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And why is everybody sitting in rows? I am sure it will be really great... but
are they truly “mixing and mashing.” -- Just being the “Devil’s Advocate”
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Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!
Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
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The problem with sticking with things is you might just end up st
Thanks a lot! I particularly liked: “His 3 key questions for an org seeking to
transform are: 1) "what would leadership look like, if no one had any 'command
authority'?
2) Does everyone have a voice in the decisions that affect them? 3) Can
innovation arise from anyone, at any time?” I can’t
John Sounds like a worthy project indeed, but I have to confess to a smiling
reaction when reading: “- what does someone need to know to say "I do self
organisation"?
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John – the literature on self organization is massive, and to be honest a
number of years have passed since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That
said, there are three books that I found to be most helpful, and all – to the
best of my knowledge – are still in print. In historical order t
igogine. He is not even mentioned in the entire book. It
is like writing about "The Evolution of the Species" without referring
Darwin...
Regards
Artur
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Kari – I totally agree with your congratulatory note to Dan for having
introduced ecology to our discussion. Thinking about self organization in the
abstract gets pretty fuzzy, and limiting the conversation to OST is
...limiting. But seen in a broader context (the biosphere), things become quite
Anne - I did have to chuckle when you took Dan to the Woodshed. J His use of
the word "stigmergy" set me back a bit too. Particularly since I pride
myself on my vocabulary, but that one got me. I did fail the course. I could
see the roots, and guess the meaning, but it really was foreign territory.
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number of years have passed since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That
said, there are
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Michael... And Everybody. Thanks for the B-Day greetings, and just to be
totally clear. Michael said I was celebrating my 80th. I understand why he
said that... but I only said (Facebook) that I was entering my 80th year. So
I get to celebrate increasing "80ishness" for the next twelve months. Just
Karen Davis and I will be hosting our annual gathering in New York for
anybody who cares about Open Space and wants to join friends and colleagues
for a deeper exploration. The dates are January 16-18, and the place is the
exquisite residence and conference center known as The International House.
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"Ultimaticity" - I love it! I have always known that language is a living
reality, which means amongst other things, it grows. When new words are
needed, they manifest. Some stay. Some go, and dictionaries do their best to
keep up. There are also some dictionaries that pretend to control language,
Evan -- I'd love to see what you are doing, but I am not sure that I qualify
as either an academic or scholar.
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Lurkers all...That silent presence creating Space, void and welcoming. Rich
with questions yet unasked, you are a blessing and no burden. The essential
ground of deep conversation. Thank you!
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Over the years we have tried a number of platforms. In fact the original
OSLIST ran on something called Confer a real, but early conferencing
system. There have been others, but at the end of the day the simple old
Listserve, with all its limitations seemed to work best. Virtually zero
learning c
Annemarie... I did have to chuckle. Self organization in a garden? Gardens are
(at the end of the day as well as the beginning) self organizing. No matter
what we may do or think. So let the Garden be your teacher... or something.
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Anne Beatrice – You will have fun! And to have more fun, invite all the
children. After all who is this education for. Remember the Customers! THEN.
Eliminate the meal (just put out snacks that people can grab when hungry – the
children will show everybody how to do this. And take all the time
Anne- Beatrice said: “As for the children, yes, I will love to include them :)
I just wonder how it is possible to have children from 0 to 8 included in OS
conversations... I would be happy to hear your thoughts about it. I think the
best way would be to let it open : children who want to join d
Chris – I do love it when you do what you do! “ fuzzy purpose is really,
really useful” ... you said.
A favorite theme of myself. Sometimes expressed as, “Confusion is the first
step to wisdom.” It has been my experience, doubtless due to frailties of
various sorts (senility, whatever) – bu
Old friends in the area are Hugh Huntington and Brigitt Williams. Hugh is at
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Neither may be available, but should know of others who might be.
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Thomas -- I suspicion that not only is OS possible, but probably the only
way to provide sufficient latitude for innovation combined with the
essential focus to deliver something useful. And a group of 8-10 is
certainly possible. BUT why the limit if there is all that other talent?
That would be th
Anna – I think you may have misunderstood – at least me. Un-attached to outcome
(for sure), but PASSIONATELY attached to the freedom and dedication to those
who search for such an outcome. They alone, I believe, will ever find the RIGHT
conclusion for THEM.
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everyone's safety. when the event finishes and
everyone is still okay, THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has
done for itself, perhaps even the MOST important thing. the principles and law
accomplish that pretty well.
--
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Michael Herman Associates
Anna is correct. But maybe I am poetically sound? Anyhow, I just love the
way Our Great Mother opens our space just when we think we have it all
under control. And of course, Wherever it happens is the right place. Or
whatever
.
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I could give you lots of reason, and much (painful) experience. Advice:
Don't do it. Start with a Blank Wall - NO pre-arrangements. It WILL all
happen as always. Brilliantly!
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Harold – love what you say! And… it isn’t all bad when people change their
minds. Indeed I always relish the moment when The Hot Issue (whatever) is
forgotten. Reminds us once again that setting agendas in advance (6 months,
Year, ???) is really a fool’s mission J
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Thank you Birgitt. Chris was a magnificent fellow. We met f-t-f only
occasionally, and online all the time, it seemed. Changing of the guard, I
guess.
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There is another condition – which is that people really want to solve
something. In this case I’m not sure. Actually, if I were to suggest anything
it would be that all players should bench themselves. What a game!
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Eleder – Always great to see you online!
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I was there a little bit. Electronically. Amazing 24,000 miles trip and I never
left home. Now that's weird! And wonderful folks. I joined them twice, a little
chaotic, but it all worked. My heart was warmed constantly -- but perhaps more
so when one of the participants from Mindanao (Southern P
Possible point of interest… For years a major organizational user of Open Space
was – guess what – The Nuns! I remember in one of the first training programs
we had two Mother Superiors. I know space was opened multiple times, and I
haven’t kept up with the present situation, but given the curre
Old timers among you will remember Lisa Carlson. She reportedly died this
morning. Lisa had been less than well for a long time. She was an old friend
of mine and a founding partner of TMN (The MetaNetwork). A path maker in
electronic networking and an early openspacer. She will be missed.
Harr
Seems like OSLIST has been barred from my world. So this is a test to see if
I can get through.
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I have been asked on occasions (by myself and others) what did I do -
exactly. Truthfully I've never really had a good answer, but I've been
trying. The latest effort may be viewed at
http://openspaceworld.com/AweOfSacred_HarrisonOwen.pdf Please share if you
care.
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s can make us sleep as well
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?
One short sleep past, we wake eternally
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.
Living and life is so different, just as Open Space is
Regards
Rob
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Have fun!
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Yea Matilda! Wonderful!!
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Thanks my friends! Made it through yet another year…
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Somehow this passed me by. Would have been a great loss. Skye – You got the
nail dead center! Thank you.
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Congratulation! I will be there in Spirit for sure and corporeally if possible.
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There is conflict, and then there is destructive conflict. I think they are two
entirely different things. Conflict is an essential part of living, life, the
total evolutionary process. Show me any organization that has no conflict and
I’ll show you a dead one. Conflict occurs when two or more c
Each year for the past several a group has gathered at the International
House in NYC under the care of Karen Davis, Harold Shinsato, Suzanne Daigle,
and this year Rain Warren. I usually dropped by. Originally this was a
"Training Program" but over the years it evolved into a celebration of the
lif
Chris – No question that the approaches you mention (Mediation on a job and
litigation as well as restorative practice (conflict resolution circles) – can
be effective. But my question is always what is the least amount you have to do
in order to achieve the maximum result. I recognize this to b
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There is conflict, and then there is destructive conflict. I think they are two
entirely different things. Conflict is an essential part of living, life, the
total ev
Sounds Wonderful. I will be there for sure – but maybe only one electron at a
time. Which would be my loss.
Harrison
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Improved Open Space! Marvelous idea!! And should you (or anybody else) succeed,
I will be the first supporter and largest fan. I will warn you, however, that
you will not be the first to make such an attempt. I think that might have been
me.
After I recovered from the two Martinis, and indeed
Don’t try to “sell” them on anything. Just make it straight. What’s it all
about? They will come if they care. Conservatives are human beings too.
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I’m with Chris. Safety is important BUT too safe is numbing. What I love about
every open space of which I have been a part – all of them have an “edge.”
There is a sense of the unknown. To me, that “edginess is the vacuum that sucks
everybody in. It is The Question. Totally safe questions are
Funny thing is, some folks are sure OS is Indian. Google “Four Principles of
Indian Spirituality.” Of check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MObYeDmoDcY
Harrison
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This is not the first time for this conversation… The simple truth: Old habits
die very hard. The habit of thinking/hoping/wishing/knowing that somebody is in
charge doesn’t play very well in Open Space. And so the predictable arrives as
prognosticated. Or something.
Some find this ongoing s
Brooks, the author of this article is a very thoughtful person -
"conservative" in a classical sense. I suspect he would not recognize the
words "Open Space" but I do believe he is coming to understand the reality.
Interesting.
Harrison
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The New Power Structure
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I see the site has a contact page: https://workshopbank.com/contact
Anyone care to give them some feedback and request they stop calling this thing
Open Space with a twist?
Peggy Holman
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Good show Michael! Definitely worth a listen. Thanks!!
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Oh Yes. All over the world every time I’ve ever “done” an OS with “indigenous
people”… Africa, Asia, Native Americans – same result. Sooner or later some
“elder” would start to smile… Although the words would differ (individually,
language, whatever) the message was the same: “White man – wher
Peggy – I don’t have a copy of the “Users Guide” being now in Maine. But the
words (from Chris Kloth) are vaguely familiar. Ain’t claiming authorship – but
might be….
Anyhow – Good Question? Something that sizzles and excites passion… for which
there is no (present) answer.
ho
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Karl – there is very little in the academic literature for reasons I’ve always
found interesting and odd… but predictable. However, the International Press
has covered it extensively and if you will accept a rather biased source, I
have a number of books on the subject. 5 remain in print and are
Has anybody seen or heard from Lisa Heft?
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Kari… The answer is YES – with multiple examples. Long, long ago in the Great
State of Kentucky (USA), Some strange things happened…
The University of Kentucky Center for Rural Health Loyd Kepferle and Karen Main
For reasons remaining somewhat obscure, it turns out that Open Space often
Reflections? It took me a while to recognize that Open Space is not a method
that we might do or impose rather it is a memory of what we already
possess. OS simply allows us to recall that we are all self-organizing
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Jan Rachel is probably coming from her own special place, but I would judge we
end up at the same point. I think we save lots of time and energy when we are
sensitive to what is already present and try to enhance or enable it… as
opposed to starting from scratch. When I work with a client (all t
Rob – you have identified one of the most curious aspects of dealing with
clients and/or potential clients regarding Open Space. It’s too simple.
Couldn’t possibly happen, and doesn’t cost enough. I had one (major) corporate
client who told me to double my fee otherwise, he said, he couldn’t pos
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Rob – you have identified one of the most curious aspects of dealing with
clients and/or potential clients regarding Open Space. It’s too simple.
Couldn’t possibly happen, and doesn’t cost enough. I had one (major) corporate
client
nsive. Yet all that happened was that the process
gave voice to all present.
Rob
On 13 Aug 2018, at 12:41 am, Harrison Owen via OSList
wrote:
Rob – you have identified one of the most curious aspects of dealing with
clients and/or potential clients regarding Open Space. It’s too simple.
Hi David... I guess the question for me would be: What do you mean by safe? If
safe mean something like total stasis where nothing changes and everything is
known in advance -- then I am sure self organization, which is actually just
another name for evolution, would be slithery slow. After all,
Mona… In all the years that I have facilitated/participated in Open Space I
have never seen any physical violence. Tense situations for sure, but the group
always handled it and, most importantly, learned from it. I think I understand
what you mean with a “code of conduct” but I’ve never seen th
nsible for what they do?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:54 PM Harrison Owen via OSList
wrote:
Mona… In all the years that I have facilitated/participated in Open Space I
have never seen any physical violence. Tense situations for sure, but the group
always handled it and, most importantly, learned
hulu good to hear from you. Don't think I will make it to Iceland... but if you
have to come back through DC, you are always welcome!
ho
Harrison Owen
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