Re: Osmand on Ipad IpadOS 14.3 - Road numbers

[Bart Eisenberg]

I don't have an answer.  On my iPad Mini running 14.4 and OsmAnd 3.90.2, 
using a newly downloaded UK Scotland map (created 1/31/21) and the OsmAnd 
style, I'm seeing highway signs. Trying different options in the Map menu, 
I can't find a way to hide those signs. The same is true with the 
California map (7/30/20).  

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 1:09:57 AM UTC-8 tim.k...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks!  You are onto something there, but it's not the same on my 
> installation.  I have 9 Map Styles to choose from and only one of these, 
> LightRS, shows road numbers.  OsmAnd, and the others, do not.
>
> I don't really like LightRS, and it has only 7 "Map Style" options 
> compared to 9 with the default OsmAnd Map Type.   One of the MapStyle 
> options  I use is Road Style, and I often switch from the default to 
> "German Road Atlas" as in certain situations it is clearer.  But I can't do 
> this when using LightRS as the Style, as Road Style is not available!
>
> I'm sure this has all changed recently, though I can't be sure when the 
> change took place.  It does seem strange that the default, OsmAnd Map Style 
> does not now have road numbers, and I'm sure that it used to include them!
>
> Again, thanks for your interest
>
> Tim Kendal 
>
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 23:34, Bart Eisenberg  wrote:
>
>> Could it be the map style? I'm noticing on an iPad that Topo and Offroad 
>> (for example) don't seem to show the road numbers, whereas OsmAnd and 
>> LightRS (for example) do.
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-8 tim.k...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've recently lost all road numbers!  All the roads are shown but no 
>>> numbers, whatever the zoom level.
>>>
>>> Everything else seems to be ok.  Is there a setting to turn these on and 
>>> off.  I'm in UK.
>>>
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Re: Lane assistance on circular junctions

[Tom Crocker]

Thanks Harry, will do. I just wasn't sure if it was because the lane
tagging was complicated and whether others knew of circulars where it
worked.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 21:30 Harry van der Wolf,  wrote:

> OK,
>
> Maybe you should file an issue for it:
> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues
> So that one of the developers can have a look at it.
> This mail group is for users helping users.
>
>
>
> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 22:19 schreef Tom Crocker  >:
>
>> Both images are from the same junction (or just after in the case showing
>> lanes). I was just wanting to show that I do see some lanes, just not at
>> circulars.
>> I see the same lanes you are showing, but those are lanes once you get
>> off the roundabout, for the junction 65m ahead (you're just on the exit way
>> in your screenshot) not the lanes on the roundabout itself which are tagged
>> through and right (although looking at the images, that's wrong too!)
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 21:02 Harry van der Wolf,  wrote:
>>
>>> Your top image belongs to the 2nd link.
>>> If I do a route simulation I do see the lanes.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20210215-215802.png]
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> For your second image (belongs to the first link): I do see lanes in the
>>> top of your screen.
>>> I don't understand what you mean with that example.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 21:16 schreef Tom Crocker <
>>> tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 Thanks Harry

 Well spotted. That was a bad example! But I see the same at this
 junction
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/752088368#map=19/53.83477/-1.65115,
 and this
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/663536551#map=19/53.80814/-1.45243,
 which I think are both correctly tagged.

 e.g.

 [image: Screenshot_20210215-201016_OsmAnd+.jpg]
 But here is lane guidance later on the same route.
 [image: Screenshot_20210215-201026_OsmAnd+.jpg]
 Thanks again

 On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 19:45, Harry van der Wolf 
 wrote:

> See attached image. The road in this case is not entirely tagged.
> [image: Screenshot_20210215-192121_OsmAnd-modded.jpg]
>
> The part in the magenta rectangle is correctly tagged. The
> "turn:lanes" tag contains "through|through|through;right"
> The part in the red rectangle misses the "turn:lanes" tag.
> Below the OSM edit screen with the road section that misses the tag.
> [image: nottagged.jpg]
>
> Harry
>
> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:27 schreef Tom Crocker <
> tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks Harry.
>>
>> I've got lanes turned on, and turned on the various next turn
>> options. I see lanes on other bits of road, just not circulars (I haven't
>> tried roundabouts).  I've attached what I'm seeing. I wasn't sure if it 
>> was
>> overriding the lanes because of the circular or if the lane connections
>> were too complicated for it to work out.
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 19:13 Harry van der Wolf, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you look at "Configure screen", either from the menu or one of
>>> the profiles, the bottom option (scroll way down) is the lanes.
>>>
>>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:08 schreef Tom Crocker <
>>> tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 I've been looking at the navigation on some junction=circular (big
 roundabouts with traffic lights) routes. So far I haven't seen any lane
 assistance (although lanes are tagged), just an exit number. Does 
 anyone
 know if lane assistance ever shows on circulars in osmand? The exit 
 number
 can be useful for an overview, but can be difficult to interpret when 
 small
 ways intersect, and is not as handy as lane assistance, especially on 
 big
 complicated junctions.

 On a related note, does anyone know if osmand uses placement tags
 or connectivity relations in working out the lane assistance? I tried
 searching GitHub and couldn't find anything, but felt like I wasn't 
 looking
 in the right place.

 Thanks

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Re: Lane assistance on circular junctions

[Harry van der Wolf]

OK,

Maybe you should file an issue for it:
https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues
So that one of the developers can have a look at it.
This mail group is for users helping users.



Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 22:19 schreef Tom Crocker :

> Both images are from the same junction (or just after in the case showing
> lanes). I was just wanting to show that I do see some lanes, just not at
> circulars.
> I see the same lanes you are showing, but those are lanes once you get off
> the roundabout, for the junction 65m ahead (you're just on the exit way in
> your screenshot) not the lanes on the roundabout itself which are tagged
> through and right (although looking at the images, that's wrong too!)
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 21:02 Harry van der Wolf,  wrote:
>
>> Your top image belongs to the 2nd link.
>> If I do a route simulation I do see the lanes.
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20210215-215802.png]
>>
>> 
>>
>> For your second image (belongs to the first link): I do see lanes in the
>> top of your screen.
>> I don't understand what you mean with that example.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 21:16 schreef Tom Crocker > >:
>>
>>> Thanks Harry
>>>
>>> Well spotted. That was a bad example! But I see the same at this
>>> junction
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/752088368#map=19/53.83477/-1.65115,
>>> and this
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/663536551#map=19/53.80814/-1.45243,
>>> which I think are both correctly tagged.
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20210215-201016_OsmAnd+.jpg]
>>> But here is lane guidance later on the same route.
>>> [image: Screenshot_20210215-201026_OsmAnd+.jpg]
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 19:45, Harry van der Wolf 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 See attached image. The road in this case is not entirely tagged.
 [image: Screenshot_20210215-192121_OsmAnd-modded.jpg]

 The part in the magenta rectangle is correctly tagged. The "turn:lanes"
 tag contains "through|through|through;right"
 The part in the red rectangle misses the "turn:lanes" tag.
 Below the OSM edit screen with the road section that misses the tag.
 [image: nottagged.jpg]

 Harry

 Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:27 schreef Tom Crocker <
 tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>:

> Thanks Harry.
>
> I've got lanes turned on, and turned on the various next turn options.
> I see lanes on other bits of road, just not circulars (I haven't tried
> roundabouts).  I've attached what I'm seeing. I wasn't sure if it was
> overriding the lanes because of the circular or if the lane connections
> were too complicated for it to work out.
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 19:13 Harry van der Wolf, 
> wrote:
>
>> If you look at "Configure screen", either from the menu or one of the
>> profiles, the bottom option (scroll way down) is the lanes.
>>
>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:08 schreef Tom Crocker <
>> tomcrockerm...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I've been looking at the navigation on some junction=circular (big
>>> roundabouts with traffic lights) routes. So far I haven't seen any lane
>>> assistance (although lanes are tagged), just an exit number. Does anyone
>>> know if lane assistance ever shows on circulars in osmand? The exit 
>>> number
>>> can be useful for an overview, but can be difficult to interpret when 
>>> small
>>> ways intersect, and is not as handy as lane assistance, especially on 
>>> big
>>> complicated junctions.
>>>
>>> On a related note, does anyone know if osmand uses placement tags or
>>> connectivity relations in working out the lane assistance? I tried
>>> searching GitHub and couldn't find anything, but felt like I wasn't 
>>> looking
>>> in the right place.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: Delay in updating road data

['Xavier' via OsmAnd]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:10:47PM +0100, Harry van der Wolf wrote:

Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 21:04 schreef Lennart Romberg <
lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:

I haven't downloaded any maps.  I use online tiles, so I assumed no 
need to download.

/ Lennart

Osmand is an offline navigation app, so what do you mean with "I use 
online tiles".  I know you can use online tiles for viewing, but I did 
not know you could use them for navigating.

So which tiles are you using?
And why?  The downloaded vector maps are about 10-20% in size compared 
to using online tiles.  That has quite some impact on your wifi and 
especially on your mobile bandwidth if you use that.


Mr Romberg should look under the OSMAnd menu in the "Download maps" 
entry, "local" tab.


I suspect he will find that at some point he has downloaded a map, and 
that the 'last change' date shown likely predates his speed limit 
changes.


If this is so, then the "updates" tab in the same view will also likely 
offer to update the downloaded maps, and if he does that update I 
suspect his speed limit fixes will appear for the roads that he has 
changed.


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Re: Delay in updating road data

[Lennart Romberg]

Aha, that explains things. I selected map source = OsmAnd online tiles,
assuming that I would get all latest stuff (for viewing and navigating)
without need for manually downloading anything (paying the price of
frequent dynamic downloads whenever needed) but seems I was wrong.

So I need to periodically download the areas I'm navigating in, right?

/ Lennart

Den mån 15 feb. 2021 kl 21:11 skrev Harry van der Wolf :

> Osmand is an offline navigation app, so what do you mean with "I use
> online tiles".  I know you can use online tiles for viewing, but I did not
> know you could use them for navigating.
> So which tiles are you using?
> And why? The downloaded vector maps are about 10-20% in size compared to
> using online tiles. That has quite some impact on your wifi and
> especially on your mobile bandwidth if you use that.
>
> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 21:04 schreef Lennart Romberg <
> lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I haven't downloaded any maps. I use online tiles, so I assumed no need
>> to download.
>> / Lennart
>>
>> Den mån 15 feb. 2021 kl 20:48 skrev Harry van der Wolf > >:
>>
>>> Raw map data is downloaded the first of the month. Then the map creation
>>> process starts.
>>> This means that the data should already be in the January but certainly
>>> in the February maps. I assume you downloaded these Feb maps but you don't
>>> mention that.
>>>
>>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:38 schreef Lennart Romberg <
>>> lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 In mid-December I noticed that osmand showed wrong speed limits on a
 route I drove. They were obsolete in OSM so I updated them but when driving
 the same route today, 2 months later, the app still shows the old speed
 limits. I assumed they would be refreshed a lot faster.

 I also added some new roundabouts in OSM. They have shown up in the
 osmand online tiles but the driving directions doesn't say anything about a
 roundabout (like "take this or that exit").

 So what update frequency to expect? Any relation between the rendered
 map and the data (like speed limits) or driving directions? Anything I need
 to do actively to refresh the data?

 Regards
 Lennart

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Re: Delay in updating road data

[Harry van der Wolf]

Osmand is an offline navigation app, so what do you mean with "I use online
tiles".  I know you can use online tiles for viewing, but I did not know
you could use them for navigating.
So which tiles are you using?
And why? The downloaded vector maps are about 10-20% in size compared to
using online tiles. That has quite some impact on your wifi and
especially on your mobile bandwidth if you use that.

Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 21:04 schreef Lennart Romberg <
lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:

> I haven't downloaded any maps. I use online tiles, so I assumed no need to
> download.
> / Lennart
>
> Den mån 15 feb. 2021 kl 20:48 skrev Harry van der Wolf  >:
>
>> Raw map data is downloaded the first of the month. Then the map creation
>> process starts.
>> This means that the data should already be in the January but certainly
>> in the February maps. I assume you downloaded these Feb maps but you don't
>> mention that.
>>
>> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:38 schreef Lennart Romberg <
>> lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> In mid-December I noticed that osmand showed wrong speed limits on a
>>> route I drove. They were obsolete in OSM so I updated them but when driving
>>> the same route today, 2 months later, the app still shows the old speed
>>> limits. I assumed they would be refreshed a lot faster.
>>>
>>> I also added some new roundabouts in OSM. They have shown up in the
>>> osmand online tiles but the driving directions doesn't say anything about a
>>> roundabout (like "take this or that exit").
>>>
>>> So what update frequency to expect? Any relation between the rendered
>>> map and the data (like speed limits) or driving directions? Anything I need
>>> to do actively to refresh the data?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Lennart
>>>
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Re: Delay in updating road data

[Lennart Romberg]

I haven't downloaded any maps. I use online tiles, so I assumed no need to
download.
/ Lennart

Den mån 15 feb. 2021 kl 20:48 skrev Harry van der Wolf :

> Raw map data is downloaded the first of the month. Then the map creation
> process starts.
> This means that the data should already be in the January but certainly in
> the February maps. I assume you downloaded these Feb maps but you don't
> mention that.
>
> Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:38 schreef Lennart Romberg <
> lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:
>
>> In mid-December I noticed that osmand showed wrong speed limits on a
>> route I drove. They were obsolete in OSM so I updated them but when driving
>> the same route today, 2 months later, the app still shows the old speed
>> limits. I assumed they would be refreshed a lot faster.
>>
>> I also added some new roundabouts in OSM. They have shown up in the
>> osmand online tiles but the driving directions doesn't say anything about a
>> roundabout (like "take this or that exit").
>>
>> So what update frequency to expect? Any relation between the rendered map
>> and the data (like speed limits) or driving directions? Anything I need to
>> do actively to refresh the data?
>>
>> Regards
>> Lennart
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Re: Delay in updating road data

[Harry van der Wolf]

Raw map data is downloaded the first of the month. Then the map creation
process starts.
This means that the data should already be in the January but certainly in
the February maps. I assume you downloaded these Feb maps but you don't
mention that.

Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:38 schreef Lennart Romberg <
lennart.romb...@gmail.com>:

> In mid-December I noticed that osmand showed wrong speed limits on a route
> I drove. They were obsolete in OSM so I updated them but when driving the
> same route today, 2 months later, the app still shows the old speed limits.
> I assumed they would be refreshed a lot faster.
>
> I also added some new roundabouts in OSM. They have shown up in the osmand
> online tiles but the driving directions doesn't say anything about a
> roundabout (like "take this or that exit").
>
> So what update frequency to expect? Any relation between the rendered map
> and the data (like speed limits) or driving directions? Anything I need to
> do actively to refresh the data?
>
> Regards
> Lennart
>
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Delay in updating road data

[Lennart Romberg]

In mid-December I noticed that osmand showed wrong speed limits on a route
I drove. They were obsolete in OSM so I updated them but when driving the
same route today, 2 months later, the app still shows the old speed limits.
I assumed they would be refreshed a lot faster.

I also added some new roundabouts in OSM. They have shown up in the osmand
online tiles but the driving directions doesn't say anything about a
roundabout (like "take this or that exit").

So what update frequency to expect? Any relation between the rendered map
and the data (like speed limits) or driving directions? Anything I need to
do actively to refresh the data?

Regards
Lennart

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Re: Lane assistance on circular junctions

[Harry van der Wolf]

If you look at "Configure screen", either from the menu or one of the
profiles, the bottom option (scroll way down) is the lanes.

Op ma 15 feb. 2021 om 20:08 schreef Tom Crocker :

> I've been looking at the navigation on some junction=circular (big
> roundabouts with traffic lights) routes. So far I haven't seen any lane
> assistance (although lanes are tagged), just an exit number. Does anyone
> know if lane assistance ever shows on circulars in osmand? The exit number
> can be useful for an overview, but can be difficult to interpret when small
> ways intersect, and is not as handy as lane assistance, especially on big
> complicated junctions.
>
> On a related note, does anyone know if osmand uses placement tags or
> connectivity relations in working out the lane assistance? I tried
> searching GitHub and couldn't find anything, but felt like I wasn't looking
> in the right place.
>
> Thanks
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Lane assistance on circular junctions

[Tom Crocker]

I've been looking at the navigation on some junction=circular (big
roundabouts with traffic lights) routes. So far I haven't seen any lane
assistance (although lanes are tagged), just an exit number. Does anyone
know if lane assistance ever shows on circulars in osmand? The exit number
can be useful for an overview, but can be difficult to interpret when small
ways intersect, and is not as handy as lane assistance, especially on big
complicated junctions.

On a related note, does anyone know if osmand uses placement tags or
connectivity relations in working out the lane assistance? I tried
searching GitHub and couldn't find anything, but felt like I wasn't looking
in the right place.

Thanks

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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

[Helmut Jarausch]

Download the Android-full version from
https://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/
Later, I use the Builds button to download and install an update from
within OSMAnd


Egal  schrieb am Mo., 15. Feb. 2021, 15:23:

> @Helmut:
> Sorry again, but I have activated the OSMand-development extension but the
> button "Builds" appears nowhere in OSMand. Where appears it in your app ?
> Do you update OSMand from inside of the app ?
>
> hjar...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 15. Februar 2021 um 14:25:47 UTC+1:
>
>> Go to settings / extensions and activate the OS And-development extension.
>> After that the Builds button appears.
>>
>> Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 23:29:
>>
>>> @Helmut:
>>> You wrote: "But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest version ".
>>> Sorry, perhaps I'm stupid but were do you tap on "builds" ?
>>>
>>> @Xavier:
>>> Do you have experience with microG ? Is it in an useable state ? Will it
>>> solve in its actual state the new problem of OSMand with GPS ?
>>>
>>> Xavier schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 16:58:22 UTC+1:
>>>
 On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:44:55AM -0800, Egal wrote:
 >You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of OSMand

 What, specifically, is missing from the F-Droid version?

 >I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6
 >OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which
 >blocks the app when the google play (spy) services are not active.
 >That is not OK

 You are correct, that is not OK. However your anger is being directed
 at the wrong entity. OSMAnd is not "including Google spy software".
 OSMAnd is simply playing withing the rather strict rules set out by
 Google.

 Google has been restricting access to everything on Android, and
 funneling everything, more and more, through Google Play Services with
 each update they make to Android. And access to GPS data is but one of
 the data sets that Google has been restricting in this way on Android.
 This is the reason for the existance of the microG project
 (https://microg.org/), an attempt to provide an alternative access
 point for those same API's but without including the google spy machine
 in the process.

 It is not OSMAnd's fault that in order to run on a standard Android
 base (which is what, but for the select few, all Android phones run)
 that Google requires that they make use of the google play services
 component. Google has forced that upon them. You should direct your
 anger at Google, not at OSMAnd.

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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

[Egal]

@Helmut:
Sorry again, but I have activated the OSMand-development extension but the 
button "Builds" appears nowhere in OSMand. Where appears it in your app ? 
Do you update OSMand from inside of the app ?

hjar...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 15. Februar 2021 um 14:25:47 UTC+1:

> Go to settings / extensions and activate the OS And-development extension.
> After that the Builds button appears. 
>
> Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 23:29:
>
>> @Helmut:
>> You wrote: "But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest version ". 
>> Sorry, perhaps I'm stupid but were do you tap on "builds" ?
>>
>> @Xavier:
>> Do you have experience with microG ? Is it in an useable state ? Will it 
>> solve in its actual state the new problem of OSMand with GPS ?
>>
>> Xavier schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 16:58:22 UTC+1:
>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:44:55AM -0800, Egal wrote: 
>>> >You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of OSMand 
>>>
>>> What, specifically, is missing from the F-Droid version? 
>>>
>>> >I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6 
>>> >OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which 
>>> >blocks the app when the google play (spy) services are not active. 
>>> >That is not OK 
>>>
>>> You are correct, that is not OK. However your anger is being directed 
>>> at the wrong entity. OSMAnd is not "including Google spy software". 
>>> OSMAnd is simply playing withing the rather strict rules set out by 
>>> Google. 
>>>
>>> Google has been restricting access to everything on Android, and 
>>> funneling everything, more and more, through Google Play Services with 
>>> each update they make to Android. And access to GPS data is but one of 
>>> the data sets that Google has been restricting in this way on Android. 
>>> This is the reason for the existance of the microG project 
>>> (https://microg.org/), an attempt to provide an alternative access 
>>> point for those same API's but without including the google spy machine 
>>> in the process. 
>>>
>>> It is not OSMAnd's fault that in order to run on a standard Android 
>>> base (which is what, but for the select few, all Android phones run) 
>>> that Google requires that they make use of the google play services 
>>> component. Google has forced that upon them. You should direct your 
>>> anger at Google, not at OSMAnd. 
>>>
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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

[Helmut Jarausch]

Go to settings / extensions and activate the OS And-development extension.
After that the Builds button appears.

Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 23:29:

> @Helmut:
> You wrote: "But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest version ".
> Sorry, perhaps I'm stupid but were do you tap on "builds" ?
>
> @Xavier:
> Do you have experience with microG ? Is it in an useable state ? Will it
> solve in its actual state the new problem of OSMand with GPS ?
>
> Xavier schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 16:58:22 UTC+1:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:44:55AM -0800, Egal wrote:
>> >You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of OSMand
>>
>> What, specifically, is missing from the F-Droid version?
>>
>> >I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6
>> >OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which
>> >blocks the app when the google play (spy) services are not active.
>> >That is not OK
>>
>> You are correct, that is not OK. However your anger is being directed
>> at the wrong entity. OSMAnd is not "including Google spy software".
>> OSMAnd is simply playing withing the rather strict rules set out by
>> Google.
>>
>> Google has been restricting access to everything on Android, and
>> funneling everything, more and more, through Google Play Services with
>> each update they make to Android. And access to GPS data is but one of
>> the data sets that Google has been restricting in this way on Android.
>> This is the reason for the existance of the microG project
>> (https://microg.org/), an attempt to provide an alternative access
>> point for those same API's but without including the google spy machine
>> in the process.
>>
>> It is not OSMAnd's fault that in order to run on a standard Android
>> base (which is what, but for the select few, all Android phones run)
>> that Google requires that they make use of the google play services
>> component. Google has forced that upon them. You should direct your
>> anger at Google, not at OSMAnd.
>>
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Re: Osmand on Ipad IpadOS 14.3 - Road numbers

[Tim Kendal]

Thanks!  You are onto something there, but it's not the same on my
installation.  I have 9 Map Styles to choose from and only one of these,
LightRS, shows road numbers.  OsmAnd, and the others, do not.

I don't really like LightRS, and it has only 7 "Map Style" options compared
to 9 with the default OsmAnd Map Type.   One of the MapStyle options  I use
is Road Style, and I often switch from the default to "German Road Atlas"
as in certain situations it is clearer.  But I can't do this when using
LightRS as the Style, as Road Style is not available!

I'm sure this has all changed recently, though I can't be sure when the
change took place.  It does seem strange that the default, OsmAnd Map Style
does not now have road numbers, and I'm sure that it used to include them!

Again, thanks for your interest

Tim Kendal

On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 23:34, Bart Eisenberg 
wrote:

> Could it be the map style? I'm noticing on an iPad that Topo and Offroad
> (for example) don't seem to show the road numbers, whereas OsmAnd and
> LightRS (for example) do.
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 11:59:06 AM UTC-8 tim.k...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I've recently lost all road numbers!  All the roads are shown but no
>> numbers, whatever the zoom level.
>>
>> Everything else seems to be ok.  Is there a setting to turn these on and
>> off.  I'm in UK.
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