Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

['P Wat' via Osmand]

>From the perspective of a fan of Dutch cycle infrastructure, I'll be keen 
to see this operational.  Sorry I dont have the skills to contribute.  Good 
luck.
Paul W

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 9:03:09 AM UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf 
wrote:
>
>
>
> Op wo 11 sep. 2019 om 07:22 schreef Peer >:
>
>> In the screenshot you see two cycle nodes (fietsknooppunten) : 56 and 57. 
>> Location: Dalfsen, Netherlands
>>
>> nr 56: 52.51646N, 6.230626E
>> nr 57: 52.52559N, 6.24799E
>>
>>
> Thank you. These nodes are also displayed on my phone.
> I checked the nodes with other nodes and can't find a difference with the 
> others. All of them are part of (cycle) routes. Most are part of relations. 
> Some have the old rwn_ref and the new rcn_ref. 
> It is really strange.
>
> Anyway. The bug is being worked on. Probably something in the code with 
> priorities of what is displayed versus the priority in the 
> default_render.xml.
>
> Harry
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

Op wo 11 sep. 2019 om 07:22 schreef Peer :

> In the screenshot you see two cycle nodes (fietsknooppunten) : 56 and 57.
> Location: Dalfsen, Netherlands
>
> nr 56: 52.51646N, 6.230626E
> nr 57: 52.52559N, 6.24799E
>
>
Thank you. These nodes are also displayed on my phone.
I checked the nodes with other nodes and can't find a difference with the
others. All of them are part of (cycle) routes. Most are part of relations.
Some have the old rwn_ref and the new rcn_ref.
It is really strange.

Anyway. The bug is being worked on. Probably something in the code with
priorities of what is displayed versus the priority in the
default_render.xml.

Harry

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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi,

Sorry to disagree with you. It does not really matter what you try to do
with the underlay. It *IS* standard functionality of OsmAnd. Switch the
view to cycle mode and switch on cycle routes. Then they should show up.
The fact that the bug has been acknowledged, has been flagged as a
regression bug and is being picked up and being worked on, really shows it
is a bug, not a wanted feature.

It is no use discussing whether you like it or not. Like I mentioned in
earlier mails: I was the one in 2012? 2013? or whenever, that brought this
functionality in its basics to OsmAnd.

Harry


Op di 10 sep. 2019 om 20:37 schreef Wolfgang Uhlig :

> Harry, under which conditions do you think, Osmand should show them all
> the time? Personally I would not like the number to show up all the time.
> The map is already full enough. For me the feature with underlay is perfect.
> Only the fact that the underlay of the fietsroutes works only when zoomed
> out a lot, is something that I don't like so much.
>
> Am Di., 10. Sept. 2019 um 18:34 Uhr schrieb Harry van der Wolf <
> hvdw...@gmail.com>:
>
>> OK,
>>
>> It should display all cycle nodes. Maybe your cycle nodes have an
>> additional tag that makes that OsmAnd displays them.
>> Can you give some visible cycle nodes and their location?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Op di 10 sep. 2019 om 16:27 schreef Peer :
>>
>>> I can see 'fietsknooppunten (osmand+ 3.4.6, mag Netherlands 1 juli) on
>>> the map with 'Fietsroutes tonen' enabled.
>>> Some numbers (fietsknooppunten) are displayed but not all of them. The
>>> routes are purple.
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Wolfgang Uhlig]

Harry, under which conditions do you think, Osmand should show them all the
time? Personally I would not like the number to show up all the time. The
map is already full enough. For me the feature with underlay is perfect.
Only the fact that the underlay of the fietsroutes works only when zoomed
out a lot, is something that I don't like so much.

Am Di., 10. Sept. 2019 um 18:34 Uhr schrieb Harry van der Wolf <
hvdw...@gmail.com>:

> OK,
>
> It should display all cycle nodes. Maybe your cycle nodes have an
> additional tag that makes that OsmAnd displays them.
> Can you give some visible cycle nodes and their location?
>
> Harry
>
> Op di 10 sep. 2019 om 16:27 schreef Peer :
>
>> I can see 'fietsknooppunten (osmand+ 3.4.6, mag Netherlands 1 juli) on
>> the map with 'Fietsroutes tonen' enabled.
>> Some numbers (fietsknooppunten) are displayed but not all of them. The
>> routes are purple.
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

OK,

It should display all cycle nodes. Maybe your cycle nodes have an
additional tag that makes that OsmAnd displays them.
Can you give some visible cycle nodes and their location?

Harry

Op di 10 sep. 2019 om 16:27 schreef Peer :

> I can see 'fietsknooppunten (osmand+ 3.4.6, mag Netherlands 1 juli) on the
> map with 'Fietsroutes tonen' enabled.
> Some numbers (fietsknooppunten) are displayed but not all of them. The
> routes are purple.
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

Thank you, but that is not what I want. OsmAnd should support it by itself
without using overlay or underlay maps.
The bug has been recognized and it is actually a duplicate of an already
existing bug.
My bug report #7535  is
actually a duplicate of #6963
.

Harry

Op di 10 sep. 2019 om 09:03 schreef Wolfgang Uhlig :

> Hi,
> I can make them visible by: configure map, underlay, cycle map.
> the only problem i have, is that they (and the cycle routes anyway) are
> only visible when you zoom out quite a lot.
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Peer]

I can see 'fietsknooppunten (osmand+ 3.4.6, mag Netherlands 1 juli) on the 
map with 'Fietsroutes tonen' enabled.
Some numbers (fietsknooppunten) are displayed but not all of them. The 
routes are purple.

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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

I created a new issue #7535
  (Android:
Fietsknooppunten (aka cycle nodes aka rcn_ref) no longer displayed in cycle
routes)

Harry


Op ma 9 sep. 2019 om 19:52 schreef Harry van der Wolf :

> That is indeed exactly how it should work and that is also how I designed
> it years ago (2012? 2013? later?) when I was still involved with OsmAnd.
> Later on xmd5a2 took it much further, but currently only the routes are
> displayed and not the "knooppunten", on Android that is.
>
> I will make an issue of it and then we'll see further.
>
> Op ma 9 sep. 2019 om 19:17 schreef Hans :
>
>> In the iOS version the “knooppunten” are easily made visible.
>> 1/  screen option, for cycling choose Routes.
>> 2/ check option “Show cycle routes”.
>> In addition to the “knooppunten” names of routes are displayed.
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Re: fiestskooppunten (rcn_ref) in OsmAnd

[Harry van der Wolf]

That is indeed exactly how it should work and that is also how I designed
it years ago (2012? 2013? later?) when I was still involved with OsmAnd.
Later on xmd5a2 took it much further, but currently only the routes are
displayed and not the "knooppunten", on Android that is.

I will make an issue of it and then we'll see further.

Op ma 9 sep. 2019 om 19:17 schreef Hans :

> In the iOS version the “knooppunten” are easily made visible.
> 1/  screen option, for cycling choose Routes.
> 2/ check option “Show cycle routes”.
> In addition to the “knooppunten” names of routes are displayed.
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