Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-11 Thread Colin Law
On 10 February 2014 23:49, Daniel MacKay wrote: >> That being said my 1-Wire solution to measuring my house electricity usage >> was to buy a Dual Counter from Hobby Boards: > > I'm thinking of asking them or Sheep Walk if they'd be interested in > producing a board with a DS2450 and a 4-channel

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-10 Thread Daniel MacKay
> That being said my 1-Wire solution to measuring my house electricity usage > was to buy a Dual Counter from Hobby Boards: I'm thinking of asking them or Sheep Walk if they'd be interested in producing a board with a DS2450 and a 4-channel op amp on it, and the diode, and picking a compatible i

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Green
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 10:26:49AM -0400, Daniel MacKay wrote: > Chris: > > The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: > > http://centameter.co.nz/ > > ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, google for "split > core transformer". > Ah, yes, I've fo

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Alex Shepherd
Hi Guys, A bunch of interesting ideas and thoughts being raised here... I've spent a good few hours over the weekend looking at what is available in terms of Energy Meters with RS485 serial ports and there are a number on eBay that provide quite a bit of data. Search on eBay for "energy meter mod

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Markstaller
I think the question is already answered and when I tell you some more from current-clamps from Europe now, this won't help you anyway ;) So, directly related another question: is anybody aware of AC-measurement with 1-Wire *directly* (isolated for sure) with True-RMS like based on ACS714 or simil

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Colin and company, I haven't found a reason to contribute to this gathering, until I remembered a rather unusual display of technology accomplished by a chap in a part of the US, here's his location: http://www.picobay.com/projects/2009/01/real-time-web-based-power-charting.html And that wa

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
yes would make sense, but then again these clamps are much cheaper then any other I've found. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Colin Reese wrote: > I see - you're buying AC/AC CTs. I just buy DC current or voltage output. > Needn't mess with it. > > > > On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:14, Marc dirix wrote

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
I see - you're buying AC/AC CTs. I just buy DC current or voltage output. Needn't mess with it. > On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:14, Marc dirix wrote: > > I use the opamp to integrate the half sine output of the clamp. > > > > >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Colin Reese wrote: >> What do you n

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
I use the opamp to integrate the half sine output of the clamp. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Colin Reese wrote: > What do you need an op amp for? I use these things all over the place and > plug them straight into adcs, as long as the internal resistance is > sufficient > > > > On Feb 9, 2

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
I see: http://www.marcspages.co.uk/tech/ctcombin.htm I never put them in series/parallel. I use dedicated adc channels directly with no problems. I want to read each individually anyway. Colin > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:59, Marc dirix wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I think every reseller should b

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
What do you need an op amp for? I use these things all over the place and plug them straight into adcs, as long as the internal resistance is sufficient > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:59, Marc dirix wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I think every reseller should be able to sell you one, because for their >

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
Google current transformer or ct if you want dc output, typically. > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:26, Daniel MacKay wrote: > > Chris: > > The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: > >http://centameter.co.nz/ > > ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, goog

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Silvano Gai
This is an interesting discussion on a similar topic http://community.ubnt.com/t5/mFi/Current-sensors-and-wiring-codes/td-p/464543 They recommend http://www.byramlabs.com/product_info.php/products_id/20748/product/Byram%20LaboratoriesBL-3%20Series%20BL-3-200-RV002%20Split-C

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
Hi Chris, I think every reseller should be able to sell you one, because for their system you need to buy loose clamps if your connection is 3-fase. I've bought mine from bespaarbazaar.nl (obviously in the Netherlands). Amazon seemed to have sold them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Current-Cost-Sensor-

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Daniel MacKay
Marc: > I've made an 1-wire interface for the current cost clamps. The current cost > clamp is specified 100A with 50mA accuracy. You can buy spare current cost > clamps for about 15 euro. The interface is a simple opamp+DS2450. On request > I'll send you the eagle schematic. Yes please! I th

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Daniel MacKay
Chris: The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: http://centameter.co.nz/ ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, google for "split core transformer". On 2014-02-09, at 09:29 , Chris Green wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:59:43PM +0100, Marc

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:59:43PM +0100, Marc dirix wrote: >Hi, >I've made an 1-wire interface for the current cost clamps. The current >cost clamp is specified 100A with 50mA accuracy. You can buy spare current >cost clamps for about 15 euro. The interface is a simple opamp+DS2450

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Don Veino
Though not 1-wire, you might want to consider the CAI Webcontrol board (~$40 via EBay) and obtaining the clamp from one of the EBay hobby sources (many Hong Kong based sellers). The Webcontrol has built in analog voltage circuitry and does all sorts of other neat stuff. -Don On Sat, Feb 8, 2014

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Marc dirix
Hi, I've made an 1-wire interface for the current cost clamps. The current cost clamp is specified 100A with 50mA accuracy. You can buy spare current cost clamps for about 15 euro. The interface is a simple opamp+DS2450. On request I'll send you the eagle schematic. /Marc On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Colin Reese
They make them in all sorts of current / voltage ratios. You'll typically see 100:1, 500:1, 1000:1, etc. Just adjust based on load and your ADC. Looks like Dwyer has a line that conveniently falls into the DS2438 input range of 1-10V: http://www.dwyer-inst.com/Product/ProcessControl/CurrentTra

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Daniel MacKay
Colin: > Get yourself any good CT like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11005 You can see that that produces 300mV at 60A which is not enough voltage for any 1-Wire voltage sensors I know of. -dan -- Managing the

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Colin Reese
Not 1wire, but an interesting project : http://www.ladyada.net/make/tweetawatt/ Get yourself any good CT like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11005 If needed, a simple voltage divider will cut this down to something measurable. Standard practice for AC monitoring in panels in the industr

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Daniel MacKay
In theory, you should be able to take a very ordinary split core (the "clamp" part) transformer, such as this: http://www.onsetcomp.com/d-image/large/75-AMP-Mini-Split-core-AC-Current-Transformer_T-MAG-0400-75.jpg which generates a small AC voltage proportional to the current, and put a

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Jerry Scharf
Here's one: http://www.ibuttonlink.com/products/ms-tc It looks like it's a 20A version, but you should be able to change the coil and go to 30A. They say it is not calibrated but gives in the 3% range for accuracy, which is about what I would expect. If I were serious, I would calibrate each on

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:24:27AM -0400, Daniel MacKay wrote: > Hello all! > > Does anyone have an inexpensive (say, under $50 type of thing) 1-Wire AC > amp (clamp type, obviously) sensor solution? > > I need to measure common household amps - so up to, say 30A would be fine, > say, with 0.5

[Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-08 Thread Daniel MacKay
Hello all! Does anyone have an inexpensive (say, under $50 type of thing) 1-Wire AC amp (clamp type, obviously) sensor solution? I need to measure common household amps - so up to, say 30A would be fine, say, with 0.5A accuracy (or so.) Any thoughts would be welcome. -dan