WiX book

2012-12-17 Thread Ian Thomas
This may be of interest to some - it is from the wix-users email list, today: Several people from the WiX community lent a hand getting the update to the WiX book into shape. The end result covers more ground than the last version, including, of course, Burn. All in all, I'm very pleased

RE: WiX book

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
What about a PDF or Daisy version? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:38 AM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: WiX book This may be of interest to some - it is from the wix-users email list, today:

Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Stuart Kinnear
I guess this is an age old problem, managing database changes such that they respect applications dependent on them. We are bolting more applications to a couple of sql databases so the management exercise is becoming more complex, risky and expensive to maintain. Currently we have a database

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
We are using a system system and we use DBUP on top of it to help us deploy to production environments. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.comwrote: Over the holiday break I thought I might research how we can improve our approach. What systems have you or

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Ben Scott
I have a similar system but I have a simple ruby script that applies migration scripts. I can run it against development databases and when I'm deploying a new version of the system I just run it against the production database. It includes a bootstrap migration to create the schema version table,

RE: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
Is that written in IronRuby, by any chance? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ben Scott Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:29 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Managing data I have a similar system but I have a simple ruby script that applies

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Ben Scott
Just plain Ruby. I think I used RubyInstaller for Windows - http://rubyinstaller.org/ On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.eduwrote: Is that written in IronRuby, by any chance? ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:

RE: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
Interesting. I think I guessed IronRuby since that plugs right into .NET, you know? By the way, is that even still being developed? It doesn't seem that IronPython is; the last update for it is version 2.73, though C Python is all the way at 3.0. What's with that, I wonder? Maybe all of

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread BC
Hi Katherine, IronPython is still being actively developed and a new release is coming early 2013 (at least that's the current plan). Version 3.0 compatibility is nearly complete in the 2.7x versions of IronPython, but from memory Jeff has full completion slated sometime next year. Regards,

RE: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
That's so cool. I plan to learn Python in the future. C# and PowerShell in Tandem, then Python, then EAGLE (or TCL via the .NET Framework). What else is still up in the air depending on what the heck I need to be learning for whatever I'm working on. Dang, you're on the project? That's

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Preet Sangha
Thanks Brendan. I used to use IronPython big time as a customisation hook. The ability to load some code from the DB as an upgrade channel was great. I really hope that it's Visual Studio experience is a lot better. In my currently role do less straight code and more functional declarative code

RE: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
Isn't there a plugin for that? I thought that there was. Python Tools for Visual Studio, isn't it? Works for both Iron and C python, I think. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:22 PM To:

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread BC
Hi Preet, The latest version of the tools is excellent and updated in October for VS 2012. Dino really does an outstanding job looking after this toolset. Details are here: http://pytools.codeplex.com/releases/view/82132 Regards, Brenden On 18 December 2012 12:21, Preet Sangha

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread noonie
Greetings Stuart, We use Visual Studio database projects and generate change scripts from database compare. Please take the time to look at the SSDT package available for VS 2010 (Default for VS 2012). As for managing compatibility, with application versions, we've yet to find an ideal

Re: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread BC
Hi Katherine, More of an avid supporter / user than on the project per se :) Planning to contribute sadly hasn't actually manifested in contributing (but part of the 2013 resolutions!). Regards, Brenden On 18 December 2012 11:52, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.edu wrote: That’s so

RE: Managing databases

2012-12-17 Thread Katherine Moss
Nice. I'm grabbing that when I get a chance. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of BC Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Managing databases Hi Preet, The latest version of the tools is excellent and updated in