Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-27 Thread Tony Wright
Perhaps stack overflow gets a lot more questions these days?

For tech I got something respectable: a Thrustmaster warthog with pedal
bundle and trackIR so I can learn how to fly aircraft in X-Plane 11. Oculus
rift coming soon for a more awesome experience.

On Thu., 27 Dec. 2018, 2:07 pm Greg Keogh  Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these
> days?)
>
> My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box. It
> only does two things:
>
> 1. It's the domain controller.
> 2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.
>
> I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for
> testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC
> and I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install
> 2019 and set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users
> would be gone and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be
> cactus (I think).
>
> Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any general
> advice would be most welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg*
>
> P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and Bunnings
> vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?
>


RE: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-27 Thread Ken Schaefer
You need to upgrade to 2012 R2 or 2016 first. Then you can upgrade to 2019. 
Everything can happen “in-place”. Do a Windows System Backup beforehand (e.g. 
to a USB drive) if you’re worried about it all dying in the middle.
Make sure that your hardware is supported under 2019 – 99% is.

Regards
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  On Behalf 
Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2018 6:08 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these days?)

My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box. It only 
does two things:

1. It's the domain controller.
2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.

I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for 
testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC and 
I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install 2019 and 
set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users would be gone 
and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be cactus (I think).

Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any general 
advice would be most welcome.

Cheers,
Greg

P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and Bunnings 
vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-27 Thread Preet Sangha
Inside MFC was one of the best books I read back in the day. How to connect
a C api to an object oriented abstraction was pretty good reading - despite
the macros and others crap in MFC.

regards,
Preet, in Auckland NZ



On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 20:53, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>
> Mother in law got me a book on c++ MFC. 100% serious
>>
>
> Wow! I last wrote something in that in 2003, it was the last time I used
> C++ or MFC for anything "real".  Lord it was difficult. Thanks heavens all
> that was replaced by .NET for app developers.
>
> Spurred by your comment, I just did some searching. I always assumed
> (don't know why) that MFC was Petzold's creation, but it looks like that's
> an urban legend via YouTube. And a quick Wikipedia search shows that MFC is
> still being updated and the last one was several weeks ago. Amazing!
>
> *GK*
>
> P.S. Search for Charles Petzold and you gets lots of fascinating stuff,
> including on his home page.
>
>>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-27 Thread Preet Sangha
Hahaha no it's just an electrical device that creates a massive arc that
melts metal. No certs needed. TBH I bought it a weeks back though I only
really used it yesterday to fix my daughters bed. Yes they are dangerous -
but they are simple if you follow the rules (face/eyes, hand and body plus
lung protection). A friend showed me how to use it etc.

However just like any software problem can be fixed with another layer of
abstraction not most real work problems can be fixed by fusing two bits of
metal together.

regards,
Preet, in Auckland NZ



On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 20:43, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>
> Merry Xmas etc. I bought myself a welder but I also gave away some tech
>> does that count?
>>
>
> Welders are dangerous things. Do you have to get some sort of
> certification to use/own one?
>
> Buying yourself presents for Xmas is grey psychological area, possibly
> producing a mix of satisfaction and guilt.
>
> *GK*
>
>>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread Greg Keogh
> Mother in law got me a book on c++ MFC. 100% serious
>

Wow! I last wrote something in that in 2003, it was the last time I used
C++ or MFC for anything "real".  Lord it was difficult. Thanks heavens all
that was replaced by .NET for app developers.

Spurred by your comment, I just did some searching. I always assumed (don't
know why) that MFC was Petzold's creation, but it looks like that's an
urban legend via YouTube. And a quick Wikipedia search shows that MFC is
still being updated and the last one was several weeks ago. Amazing!

*GK*

P.S. Search for Charles Petzold and you gets lots of fascinating stuff,
including on his home page.

>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread mike smith
MFC hasn't been deprecated yet?

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018, 17:54 DotNet Dude  Mother in law got me a book on c++ MFC. 100% serious
>
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 18:15, Preet Sangha  wrote:
>
>> Merry Xmas etc. I bought myself a welder but I also gave away some tech
>> does that count?
>>
>> On Thu., 27 Dec. 2018, 8:07 pm Greg Keogh >
>>> Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these
>>> days?)
>>>
>>> My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box.
>>> It only does two things:
>>>
>>> 1. It's the domain controller.
>>> 2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.
>>>
>>> I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for
>>> testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC
>>> and I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install
>>> 2019 and set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users
>>> would be gone and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be
>>> cactus (I think).
>>>
>>> Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any
>>> general advice would be most welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> *Greg*
>>>
>>> P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and
>>> Bunnings vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?
>>>
>>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread Greg Keogh
> Merry Xmas etc. I bought myself a welder but I also gave away some tech
> does that count?
>

Welders are dangerous things. Do you have to get some sort of certification
to use/own one?

Buying yourself presents for Xmas is grey psychological area, possibly
producing a mix of satisfaction and guilt.

*GK*

>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread DotNet Dude
Mother in law got me a book on c++ MFC. 100% serious

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 18:15, Preet Sangha  wrote:

> Merry Xmas etc. I bought myself a welder but I also gave away some tech
> does that count?
>
> On Thu., 27 Dec. 2018, 8:07 pm Greg Keogh 
>> Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these
>> days?)
>>
>> My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box. It
>> only does two things:
>>
>> 1. It's the domain controller.
>> 2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.
>>
>> I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for
>> testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC
>> and I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install
>> 2019 and set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users
>> would be gone and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be
>> cactus (I think).
>>
>> Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any general
>> advice would be most welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> *Greg*
>>
>> P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and Bunnings
>> vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?
>>
>


Re: [OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread Preet Sangha
Merry Xmas etc. I bought myself a welder but I also gave away some tech
does that count?

On Thu., 27 Dec. 2018, 8:07 pm Greg Keogh  Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these
> days?)
>
> My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box. It
> only does two things:
>
> 1. It's the domain controller.
> 2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.
>
> I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for
> testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC
> and I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install
> 2019 and set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users
> would be gone and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be
> cactus (I think).
>
> Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any general
> advice would be most welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg*
>
> P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and Bunnings
> vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?
>


[OT] Server 2008 R2 to 2019

2018-12-26 Thread Greg Keogh
Hi folks (quiet in here lately... where is all the .NET chatter these days?)

My home office LAN has a Windows 2008 R2 server running on a real box. It
only does two things:

1. It's the domain controller.
2. It runs my 2008 R2 web server inside Hyper-V.

I'd like to update the 2008 R2 DC to 2019, just so I have the latest for
testing and learning. However I have never before upgraded or replaced a DC
and I'm not sure what the easiest path is. I could just wipe and install
2019 and set the DC feature, but all the AD tree of computers and users
would be gone and all the authentication and ACLs all over the LAN would be
cactus (I think).

Is there some ay of upgrading my DC with the least suffering? Any general
advice would be most welcome.

Cheers,
*Greg*

P.S. I must be marginal, as Santa just gave me socks, undies and Bunnings
vouchers … nothing IT related. Anyone get any good tech?