Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread Carole Gilmour
Dear Anne I am pretty sure that there is no research and thus no references to define frequency of auscultating the fetal heart.  It is one of those practices that has become set in practice from historical usage and professional agreement.  Most places where I have worked the protocols were

FW: Birthing under trees!

2002-05-25 Thread Sally
There is the dream. To birth under the trees. Birthing in ones own power. Embraced by the beloved. Supported by the wise woman. The magical things that happen when one birth in touch with nature. I witnessed a woman birthing under the trees. The onset of intense labour was heralded by an eagle f

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread Anne Clarke
Dear Deb and all,   Thank you for this information, but I was actually looking for why we monitor either by doppler or pinnards - the interval during labour to listen to the fetal heart not the electronic version of listening to the fetal heart.   Why do we listen at all to the fetal heart e.

Re: Conference

2002-05-25 Thread Kerreen Reiger
Hi Ozmidders, re discussion on forthcoming conferences- Belinda thought there was a'forthcoming one in Melbourne'. She could be thinking of the 'Performing Motherhood' conference at La Trobe 4-6 July which I sent a message around about a while back. It is not a mid conference, but does include b

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread jireland
Dear list Point IS WE DO HAVE RESEARCH THAT SAYS CONTINUOS MONITORING WITHOUT IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO SCALP pH DOES NOT IMPROVE OUTCOMES FOR WOMEN OR NEWBORNS [in healthy populations ] Once again there should be no rules but partnership with families around theirs, yours and the babies needs Anot

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread S.J.F.ELECTRICAL.
Dear All It sounds to me there is a thin line between fear and trust here?Trust in the total picture the woman baby and process?I know it is easier for me to say this because I have been with women I have known through their pregnancy!But also the question arises for me as the discussion  so

Fw: Re Twins

2002-05-25 Thread Joy Cocks
Dear Liz, Thank you so much for that good story. Well done!! My daughter is now 26/40, well and confident. I will keep the list posted. Regards, Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Liz Ekins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: Birthing under trees!

2002-05-25 Thread Jayne
Under the tree by myself sounds very appealing! - Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Capers Birth News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Birthing under trees! > Aagghh! > Did an

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread Meaghan Moon
Anne, Regarding frequency of auscultation of FH: I have read (I think in the in the AWHONN (Association of Women's Health, Obstetrical and Neonatal Nursing guidelines)) that the optimal frequency of auscultation during labour has not been established by research. In normal labour, once every

Fw: RE: Birthing under trees!

2002-05-25 Thread Rhonda
Subject: RE: Birthing under trees!   Isn't that strange - talking about religion today I said that i believed my Great Grandmother who said "I would prefer to prey under one of God's trees than in a man made structure"  Perhaps to birth

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread DebSlater
Marilyn Some of the references I mentioned in my earlier posting discuss EFM vs intermittent auscultation e.g. using Doppler. Debbie

Re: FHM

2002-05-25 Thread Kleimar
Deb I think Ann was asking about non electronic monitoring ie doppler/ fetascope/pinard during labor. Do you have any research on that? One of my classmates at Seattle Midwifery School did her Senior paper on this topic, however I don't have her paper with me and it is unpublished. I generally have

Re: Waterbirth and labour in water.

2002-05-25 Thread Andrea Robertson
There are a number of useful books on this subject, that I would recommend. Have a look at the list on http://www.birthinternational.com and use the search facility by typing in waterbirth. It's quite a useful list of resources We are presenting a half day workshop on how to facilitate w

FHM

2002-05-25 Thread DebSlater
Anne The NCT has produced an evidence-based briefing on Continuos EFM in labour.  I have a copy of the document in Word. The "Key Points" of the briefing say: "Routine continuous electronic fetal monitoring in labour was introduced into practice before its efficacy and safety could be demo

Re: Waterbirth and labour in water.

2002-05-25 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear Christine & Tony Holliday   www.waterbirth.org/index2.html   great bibliography! Liz Dear All,   I am looking for any information you have on using water in labour and/or waterbirth.  Any policies or statistics, published or unpublished would be useful to me.  In

Re: Waterbirth

2002-05-25 Thread Mary Murphy
Midwifery guidelines for use of water in Labour Ethel Burns & Sheila Kitzinger is available on the Birth International website.  Also reviewed by me and available on their review site.  a very valuable little booklet.  Cheers, MM

RE: Birthing under trees!

2002-05-25 Thread Vicki Chan
Hey...given that choice, I'll take the tree! Vicki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ms Elizabeth McCall Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Birthing under trees! Yes - I did see it. Horrendous stuff as i