Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Hi Frank, I guess you said that just to get a rise out of us all.(??) As a man you have obviously never laboured and given birth. Tthe water is s soothing and relaxing. No it doesn't take the pain away altogether or in some cases much at all, but when women get out of the tub for some reason

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Frank, Frank, Frank..where do I begin! The bliss of getting into that tub of warm water after hours of hard workjust the memory gives me an endorphin rush :o) (and it was 7 years ago). I am absolutely convinced that labouring and birthing in water was the reason for my fantastic bir

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Not stupid at all, Frank. The point you missed was this. Women dont birth in water for buoancy, they birth in it for pain relief. whatever is the most helpful is what you do. Robin. - Original Message - From: "Frank Jockel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, Dec

FW: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Who are you Frank?? An obstetrician?? Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frank Jockel Sent: Saturday, 7 December 2002 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water Hi, I just have to give my two bob'

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland

victoria - Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland > Oz! : ) > > - Original Message - > From: "Kirsten Blacker" > > > Portland

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland

thanks sally things are grim in vic at the moment jan - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland > I wish I could be there. When I lived in

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

pete I would sieve the water boil the water and send a specimen for m and c before and after birth and if all that it to complicated i would say how about standing for birth and then sitting down again although i think its all a bit grubby[could get a lovley postpartum infection . I have had no ex

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Hi, I just have to give my two bob's worth regarding water births... I think water births are the STUPIDEST idea since the Irish decided to land on the sun at night. What happens when you push a ball under water? Its bouyancy makes it pop UP A baby has bouancy too. So unless the mother is wi

[ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Could people tell me of their experiences with birthing in dam water, we really don't have enough rainwater on site to use, this dam water is used for general washing etc it runs through the solar hotwater service but is quite turbid, yours in midwifery pete malavisi -- This mailing list is spon

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Thanks Helen, Cate does have grazed nipples, but no worse than I would have had with my 1st - so it's hard to know if the tongue tie is to blame. However, Audrey has also grazed the aereola, and on Day Two latched on to her mother's neck, giving her a quite impressive bruise! The kid obviously s

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland

I wish I could be there. When I lived in Geelong I would go to Portland for a birth. Fingers Crossed for her. I have contacted some midwifes I know down that way. Sally Wesbury -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland

Oz! : ) - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Blacker" > Portland OREGON? or somewhere in Oz? > Kirsten -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

  It makes it darn near impossible for them to get a tongue piercing too. So that may be a good thing for some parents!  LOL Sorry, it's late! Rhonda. ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, D

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently needed in Portland

Portland OREGON? or somewhere in Oz? Kirsten - Original Message - From: "Andrea Bilcliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ozmidwifery Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Capers Birth News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwife urgently nee

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Jo, my 2nd baby born 6 yrs ago in a public hospital in Victoria, had a tongue tie. Breastfeeding was not comfortable right from the beginning, sore nipples. Were the sore nipples caused by thrush from antibotics (just in case.. following a caesarean birth) or from the tongue tie. The paediatricia

Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue ties...

Thanks Janine - have forwarded your message to the new parents!   Jo - Original Message - From: Janine and Steve Clark To: Ozmid Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] tongue ties... Hi all,   A friend of mine had a baby with to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Sally, I so agree with you - your 1st 2 sentences largely describes my personal experience with them too - and it's partly why I'm contacting the list, because brand new parenthood can be a time of such insecurities, when one's former convictions and ideas can be tested as you confront the life-ch

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Jo, I'm sorry to say that MCHN drive me nuts!! The majority of times that my clients see one they come back with less than positive stories. The times that they meet a good one is an absolute blessing as the networking within the community and the support they give one on one is great. If the b

[ozmidwifery] tongue ties...

Hi all,   A friend of mine had a baby with tongue-tie at her dom visits, her midwife suggested she sit for a while each day and poke her tongue out at her baby - and her baby, only 4 days old, began to copy her! Within a few days the tongue-tie had stretched, then snapped of it's own acco