Re: [ozmidwifery] test - delete from inbox

Hey Jennifairy I just got this mail Lisa - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] test - delete from inbox Just testing, Ive sent 2 posts to the list today & neither has appeared. So Im trying a post direct

Re: [ozmidwifery] test - delete from inbox

On 06/09/2006, at 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just testing, Ive sent 2 posts to the list today & neither has appeared. So Im trying a post direct from my server to track down the *WTF?* moment Im having. jennifairy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Hi Andrea,   Sorry If I gave the impression that I was upset that I wasn't personally contacted (smile)that's not really the case although I do feel that it is very personal to all who practice independently. I was a little defensive as it seems nobody wants debate they think we should all ju

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage

I didn't get anything from you either Jennifairy :( -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 5/09/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to s

[ozmidwifery] test - delete from inbox

Just testing, Ive sent 2 posts to the list today & neither has appeared. So Im trying a post direct from my server to track down the *WTF?* moment Im having. jennifairy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage

Thanx Andrea, the forward I sent on this to the Ozmid list (only a half hour before you sent this) never got through (or at least it dint end up in my inbox via Ozmid). I figure that about half of my posts to this list actually get through. Maybe I'll just send the stuff I want to get onto this

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Message Absolutely! That's why I'd love to see all midwives having to be members of ACMI. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insur

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Message Thanks for that Andrea, just on that point, I think we all need to be mindful that there are probably many midwives who are not online AT ALL.  I know of a few here in SA, who rely on other means of keeping updated with things, and one of them had no idea about any of this un

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Message My understanding of the offer is quite basic and some will know much more than me and are better able to articulate it, but I'll give it a shot...   Anne O'Connor was very helpful and willing to answer all our questions at the meeting yesterday. What she couldn't, she was goin

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage

Thanks Andrea, it's good to get this type of information coming our way. Cath - Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage To

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed Actually I had a Direct Entry Mid Student from Monash Uni in Frankston last year attend homebirths with me. Her last birth required for her required number of 'attended births' was a home birth.   With kind r

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage

Thanks for that Andrea, we do feel a bit in the dark over here, and many of us are members of the college, (the ACMI had a study day a week ago and almost every IPM in Adelaide was there).  I think it just feels a bit like these discussions are going on, and we’re not quite sure of what i

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

I believe that Anne O'Connor from Contracting Advantage will be visiting most states to discuss the offer and answer any questions midwives may have. You can contact her at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to find out when she is coming to your state. If she has not planned to, I'm sure she would if there

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage

To help keep everyone in the loop, here are Joy's notes from the Melbourne meeting yesterday.   Andrea Bilcliff   - Original Message - From: Joy Johnston Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: [Midwives_Insurance] Notes from meeting with Contracting Advantage Meeting

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

My advice from one lawyer is not to have to sets of insurers  as if you get sued then you have two insurance companies fighting about who is responsible which makes the whole issue much bigger than if only one, those midwives who are employed are covered by their employer.  Hospital employe

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Message Lisa, Personalising debate is not wholesome. Its like NIMBY debates!  An email went out via ACM update that people can subscribe to about PI to express an interest to the CEO at that stage. This was then relayed onto ozmidwifery. I do not think it has progressed beyond an _exp

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

I'm certainly not trying to shoot any offer of insurance down.  I wanted discussion and opinion because I feel out of the loop.  I am a member of the SAIMA but we have received nothing not even a note to say anything is on the table , it's all hear say and 3rd hand.  As I said before I only

Re: [ozmidwifery] re . insurance for midwives

Tania, where did you access the midwives PI list? meg - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re . insurance for midwives Can I just say that I

Re: [ozmidwifery] re . insurance for midwives

Well said Cath, As a mother with a young family, and being the main income support for my family, there is no way that I could afford to lose everything (possessing little in the way of assests, I would) and I also could not afford to hb full time. However if with insurance more midwives were

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

I agree and disagree, Tania.I believe there IS an us and them.  I am a hospital based Midwife... I see 'them' homebirth based Midwives and look up to and admire them for their experience and expertise in home birth.  I look at the hospital based Midwives I work with and also admire their experience

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Message Justine you have so eloquently state the bleeding obvious. I am one hospital midwife who hopes and prays this insurance comes available. I plan to provide home care for birthing women but ethically and morally I will not do so until I know PI is there. To be truly recognised a

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Andrea said…“I dont think you will get midwives who only work in hospital to be interested even though I think they should be”     I think this is a key quote that also deserves some discussion…whilst on one hand we are all fighting for recognition as a profession separate to nursing, and

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed Dear Lisa and All I agree Lisa we need to dispel fear around HB but to do that it needs to be accessible. Your experience of BMid students attending HB is a 1 off.  I don’t believe any other BMid course enable

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

I'm glad you mentioned this Andrea because it's just what I was thinking.  SA Midwives don't command the prices that they charge in other states.  Will the payments be uniform or income related and how does that transfer to the amount of cover provided.  I also understand that they will pay

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

My feeelings on it are divided as I dont necessarily want CA to be doing my invoicing of clients for a number of reasons one of which is confidentiality. but the deal itself sounds reasonable to me to pay on a per case basis. I would be happy with a per case fee as I feel this would be fair for eve

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: PI Insurance - urgent - more interested midwives needed

Just wanted to weigh in on this discussion…   I agree Lisa, there is so much fear and distrust of birth, and the processes that make it safe, that I don’t think insurance will make an ounce of difference per se, to the culture surrounding birth in this country. That’s not to say that it i