Congratulations to David Vernon and the college on Men at Birth - article
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Clive Hopkins
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the readers comments generated from this article are a great read,
everything from C/S to freebirth, wow!!!
Di
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Yay for David!
J
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the readers comments generated from this article are a great read,
everything
Hi Wise women,
Just want to throw this out there for
comments/suggestions. Had a birth the other night that was a bit worrying at the
time. Good outcome lovely 4200g baby girl. Mum (primip)had SROM at clinic
visit at 830 am then went home and established at about 1630, came in
contracting
Hi Wise women,
Is there any evidence based research re the drying of wounds perineal or
abdominal with hairdryers ?
Effective or not ?
Question within the unit.
I will ask the skin-integrity specialist also.
Thanks
Brenda
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Sounds to me like this woman needed rest and
carbohydrates when she had a rim. Her body was telling you she
needed a rest before she could get this baby moving. This may have
prevented any stress on her or her baby.
You said::
!!! Obviously not easy to get FH at this stage
but was
Di, It sounds as tho you managed a
difficult situation in the best way you knew, and that is all one can do.
You are now seeking to learn from it and we will obviously give you tips based
on our experiences. Dont feel that you should have etc.
Many midwifery authors in all kinds of
Mary M said:
I am old enough to remember doctors saying turn her on her side and give
her a rest, Sis, in a time when IV fluids, synto drip and epidurals were
available but not used so aggressively.
Wow, doctors actually said that...you must be joshing us Mary!! In our place
the synto
I'm not that old ! early 40something
but when I did midi we called it the "rest and be thankful stage". It seemed to go out of fashion! with "quick get the synto up".
Now women ( if they're not private and have a doctor hovering) againhave that littlerest and then get on with it.
Louise
Hi Di,
Just a point on fluids in labour - if a woman is overloaded with
fluid (via a drip) her system, vasopressin (antidiuretic hormone)
will kick in to stop her body being flooded with fluid. This hormone
is produced from the same source as oxytocin (posterior putuitary
glad). Perhaps
Hi Di,This reminds me of scenario that a cousin of mine had with her second bub. Her contractions basically stopped I think when she was fully and she did end up having some synto to get them going again. But what had happened was that the midwife (who said she could have bitten her tongue as
Apologies for the x posting.
Have a query on behalf of a colleague.
Does anyone know of any research regarding the use of warm air (ie hair driers)
to help heal peri abdo wounds.
We did it years ago it went out possibly with the moist wound healing
phase. She is after actual research for
Hi Brenda and all
My clients always self-manage their wounds with warm air from their dryer.
How much enhancement of healing occurs I do not know, but I DO know that each and every one of them reports that it is SO SOOTHING ... they never dab their wound with anything at all.
Cheers
Jan
Jan
Hi,
Thanks for that point Andrea because I had the opposite where I had
really encouraged oral fluids and dietary intake.
I had a young primip T+3 who experienced spurious labour for 2 days,
visiting BS each day 'just in case', on the beginning of her 3rd
presentation she was admitted given
Sorry Mary If my language inferred "should have"
but when would you get a woman to push without a contraction?. Exception maybe
breech out to nape of neck with worries about the baby's condition.
IV fluids doesn't constitute any part of normal
physiological labour unless I've missed
In defence of Di...she obviously works in a hospital with registrar
potentially hanging around the door..Sometimes 'best practice' may need to
be modified to prevent the women from ending up with an instrumental
birth..or synto...or an epidural ..or even a CS The lesser of two
evils. The
Hi Lisa, there was definitely no intent of
implied criticism when I said no should haves. Just a reminder
that we beat up on ourselves all the time . OH maybe I should have,
shouldnt have. etc. We each have to respond to the best of our
clinical judgment, in the way we see it, at the time.
I haven't seen research but I'd be interested. It seems counterintuitive to
me to blow dry a perineum. I imagine we have a sensible built in healing
system that's used to a normally lubricated genital area. The c-sec wound
still gives me trouble now and then thanks to my built in apron so that's
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