It may well be, as I rarely cut the cord before the
placenta has birthed during a physiological third stage (unless requested), even
when the woman chooses not to have a lotus birth.
Andres Bilcliff
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From:
Susan
Cudlipp
I mean, does the
fact
Hush Hush is how these things
happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery
but it's being kept quiet because we are 2 weeks from an election it'll
"affect the voting " !
How's that ??
With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
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From:
Title: Message
look
at this! Really no hope for birth Centres
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Happy
HogarthsSent: Monday, 13 November 2006 1:15 PMTo:
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] No Births at
Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being kept quiet because
we are 2 weeks from an election it'll affect the voting !
How's that ??
With kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au
With kind regards
Brenda Manning
Hey Brenda
Why on earth would you sit down for that.
Where are your consumers running to the media.
It is only at election time will we achieve anything!
JC
Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being kept quiet
because we are 2 weeks
what can we do Brenda?? Rosebud is a great place to have a baby. We cant
sit back and let it happen.
Pinky
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From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: OzMid List ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] NO
I have been away for a week haven't spoken to my colleagues about what's
happened but will do it tomorrow then post the details.
I don't think anyone here knew about the radio broadcast in Rosebud mentioned
in the MCVic Digest.
However as I say, I've been away a week maybe our lot requested
Hush Hush was tried in mareeba but it leaked!! Tut, Tut.
Cheers
Judy
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Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being
kept quiet because we are 2 weeks from an election it'll
affect the voting !
I've tried phoning Ryde but no one's
answering either today or yesterday. Can anyone answer the question yet? Is it
closing?
J
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From:
brendamanning
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:24
PM
Subject: Re:
Hi,
I'm interested if there is any research on delaying synto for say up to
5 minutes in 'active 3rd stage'.
Have been doing actively managed third stage throughout my clinical
placements as a student (nearly finished!!) with some practitioners
cutting the cord immediately, and most at about
Hello Sue,
The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well.
In the US, as far as I know, the syntometrine is not given until
after the placenta arrives. It is then given to prevent excessive
bleeding. Interesting to speculate on how this major difference
developed, and
Sue,
You really need to decide whether your patient wishes for an active or a
physiological third stage. It can be dangerous to try and do a half-half
sort of third stage.
If you plan a physiological third stage then you need to:
1. Dont clamp or cut the cord until it stops pulsating.
2. Put
Sue that's how I do most of mine...don't give the oxytocic with the anterior
shoulderand it's usually some minutes before I 'get' around to it!!!
There is a wide variation of practice isn't there...it is one of those
things that we have always been led to believe i.e if you don't give that
Hi Sue this is something I have always been interested inthe link is to
the FIGo/ICM Joint statement on active third stage and it states you can
leave the cord in a well newborn to stop pulsating...and then cut; this is
with giving the oxytocic at birth..
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Dear All
Ryde Midwifery Group Practice is not closing. For the immediate future all women booked on the RMGP will need to birth at RNS.
I believe Ryde Hospital is having some issues and there is a view to remove the RMGP from greater
I should add that a physiological third stage is the natural progression
from a normal labour.
However if the woman has had a labour influenced by IOL, augmentation and
directed pushing in second stage then she is more at risk of a PPH because
her uterus has been unnaturally pushed to labour
Competely agree Leanne...but am also of the belief that the issue of timing
of the injection, and therefore timing of the clamping are things that have
been thrust upon us. The research is variable in its support of when to give
the oxytocic and how long we can leave the cord to pulsate after
Why would you do that Lisa? if you give an oxytocic you get a surge of
blood through the cord. The uterus contracts within 3 mins Syntocinon 7/9
mins ergometrine. The Placenta should be sheared off the wall within
minutes. If you want the cord to stop pulsating in a well new born surely
Where I work when I am not being a MIPP we leave the cord until it
has stopped pulsating, or the mother asks for it to be cut and then
we give the synt after it has been clamped. Our PPH rate is not
noticeably higher
Put it this way we have the usual conservative GPs and they do not
object
Well that's what we've always been led to believe, but it's not a one way
system is it? So if you are using syntocinon (not syntometrine where the
contraction is much stronger and more sustained) why won't the baby regulate
it's own blood volume? I am speaking from hospital experience where
Hi Lisa, Delaying the Syntocinon until after the cord has stopped pulsing
isn't a problem as up until you give the drug you are treating it as a
physiological third stage. giving the drug then just waiting for the cord
to stop could be a problem. When I have a few mins I'll check it out I'm
I have a PDF of the full paper if anyone is interested..pm me
Lisa
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Hi Lisa sorry didn't mean to reply as I did, am abit passionate about
this..have pmed you a copy of the bmj paper which talks about this..I think
what they are saying is that the 'belief' about the overload of blood with
the oxytocic hasn't been proven maybe!? Have read lots of old stuff about
the
I know! But some get the poops and can't be bothered waiting..
Lisa G
I realise that some women opt for active third stage but if they've gone as
far as letting the cord stop with no bad effect it seems a shame not to
continue.
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