Hi,
An excellent article that explains the whole ketone story:
Anderson, Tricia. Is ketosis in labour pathological? The Practising
Midwife, Sept 1998 Vol 1 No 9.
See also:
Odent, Michel. Labouring women are not marathon runners. The
Practising Midwife, September 1998, Vol 1 No 9
There is
yes she also can see the funny side of it now. She thought I was nuts
when I asked her where she wanted to have the baby because she was
convinced she had hours to go because of her previous experiences
The whole thing is so much fun sometimes
Andrea
On 07/10/2006, at 2:08 PM, Judy Chapman
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In defence of Di...she obviously works in a hospital with registrar
potentially hanging around the door..Sometimes 'best practice' may need
to be modified to prevent the women from ending up with an instrumental
birth..or synto
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Hi Lisa, there was
definitely no intent of implied criticism when I said no should haves.
Just
hydration.
Cheers,
Di
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No
Mary wasn't directing this at you or anyone in general really...just feel
is somewhere
sleeping like they should be and leaving the normal to us!
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Why only hanging
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Michelle Windsor
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Hi Di,
This reminds me of scenario that a cousin of mine had with her second
bub. Her contractions basically stopped I think when she
:
Susan
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Along the theme of slow labours:
I just had a labouring mum with very slow
contractions today. She came in in the night thinking she'd SROM'd
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Hi Wise women,
Just want to throw this out there for
comments/suggestions. Had a birth the other night that was a bit worrying at
the time. Good outcome lovely 4200g baby girl. Mum (primip)had SROM at
clinic visit at 830 am
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I have given tired women a spoonful of honey around this
stage, sometimes when things just
settings.
Cheers, sue
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Hi Sue,
Without any malicious intent I'm again going to
attempt an opinion
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I had a Sudanese
client a while back whose other support person (another Sudanese woman) gave
the client hot water with about 10 sugars in it. Traditionally they use a
slightly different hot mixture she said, but boy did it pick
Hi Sue,
Thanks for sharing the information. Your
right it is almost impossible to avoid active intervention when birthing in the
system even with great midwives like yourself supporting. Part of the
problem appears to be the lack of belief that waiting and doing nothing is going
to work.
This is one for the MIPPs...you here the occasional story of a woman at full
dilatation during homebirth having a prolonged period of no contractions and
going to sleep...How long would you wait? And when would you get concerned?
These stories are in such contrast to what goes on in hospitals as
money for a Rest and be Thankful in my recent marathon labour!
J
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This is one for the MIPPs...you here the occasional
Sometimes at home the women get just as despondent but the difference is that no one is going to walk through the door and under mine me and 'save' her.Last week I was with a women who was birthing at home after three very different and for a variety of reasons not so great labours.. She had done
Andrea
This is a beautiful story and yes you are so right
about women asking to go home/hospital/
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and there were no signs of obstruction, no
moulding etc.
Sorry its so long but any thoughts?
Melissa
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Lisa, I am sure you have said what many of us think. I have
worked like that for years and one gets sick of the tightrope
all of the time. I am so glad that I am now working without drs,
it is just protocols now.
Cheers
Judy
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for
Fantastic story Andrea. As I am just starting in home birth I
love hearing these variations from hospital stuff.
Cheers
Judy
PS, bet she was pleased after the fact that you had not
immediately jumped to ring an ambulance.
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Sometimes at home the
Hi Wise women,
Just want to throw this out there for
comments/suggestions. Had a birth the other night that was a bit worrying at the
time. Good outcome lovely 4200g baby girl. Mum (primip)had SROM at clinic
visit at 830 am then went home and established at about 1630, came in
contracting
Sounds to me like this woman needed rest and
carbohydrates when she had a rim. Her body was telling you she
needed a rest before she could get this baby moving. This may have
prevented any stress on her or her baby.
You said::
!!! Obviously not easy to get FH at this stage
but was
Di, It sounds as tho you managed a
difficult situation in the best way you knew, and that is all one can do.
You are now seeking to learn from it and we will obviously give you tips based
on our experiences. Dont feel that you should have etc.
Many midwifery authors in all kinds of
Mary M said:
I am old enough to remember doctors saying turn her on her side and give
her a rest, Sis, in a time when IV fluids, synto drip and epidurals were
available but not used so aggressively.
Wow, doctors actually said that...you must be joshing us Mary!! In our place
the synto
on with it.
Louise
rural NSW
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Mary M said:
"I am old enough to remember doctors saying "tur
Hi Di,
Just a point on fluids in labour - if a woman is overloaded with
fluid (via a drip) her system, vasopressin (antidiuretic hormone)
will kick in to stop her body being flooded with fluid. This hormone
is produced from the same source as oxytocin (posterior putuitary
glad). Perhaps
Hi Di,This reminds me of scenario that a cousin of mine had with her second bub. Her contractions basically stopped I think when she was fully and she did end up having some synto to get them going again. But what had happened was that the midwife (who said she could have bitten her tongue as
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Hi Di,
Just a point on fluids in labour - if a woman is overloaded with
fluid (via a drip) her system, vasopressin
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Di, It sounds as tho
you managed a difficult situation in the best way you knew, and that is all
one can do. You are now seeking to learn from it and we will obviously
give you tips based on our experiences. Dont feel that you should have
In defence of Di...she obviously works in a hospital with registrar
potentially hanging around the door..Sometimes 'best practice' may need to
be modified to prevent the women from ending up with an instrumental
birth..or synto...or an epidural ..or even a CS The lesser of two
evils. The
in labour. sorry cant
remember where. MM
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Sorry Mary
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