Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-08 Thread VERONYKA CAMPBELL
. Veronyka - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Yes I have, but the cost was a deterrant to its purchase- too many books and charts to buy

Re: RE: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-07 Thread Anke Dalman
Hi Sally, Thank you for your note. Tell me more about the job, I might consider. Love Anke 2/6/2003 9:46:46 PM, Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anke, What we need is a midwife manager to continue to nurture the Community Midwifery Program.. maybe you should come west!! Sally

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Anke Dalman
2/6/2003 9:31:21 AM, Judy Giesaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Lieve, Judy, and others Your prayer has been answered before you prayed. I am a dutch midwife and live in Australia for 22 years. All there years I had to fight for any recognition. All I heard from hospital based midwives and

RE: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Sally Westbury
Anke, What we need is a midwife manager to continue to nurture the Community Midwifery Program.. maybe you should come west!! Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice 2/6/2003 9:31:21 AM, Judy Giesaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, Lieve, Judy, and othersYour prayer has been answered before you prayed. I am a dutch midwife and live in Australia for 22

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)

2003-02-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) Thank you Gail for your words of support. I can not stress hard enough though how I

[ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-05 Thread Judy Giesaitis
"We are seen as a separate profession with equal status to a GP or an obstetrician," says Sue Thompson, a British midwife who is working in Amsterdam. "Our judgment is respected." I can just hear this prayer coming from women all over Australia Oh lord, please have these midwives come and

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-05 Thread Lois Wattis
Here, Here!!! Lois - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice "We are seen as a separate profession with equal status to

[ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a natural birth

2003-02-04 Thread Justine Caines
Lesia, Yes you are right I wasn't commenting on Claudia paying for her birth in the UK. You made a comment about supporting all choice and you then replied to say you include my choice as well. This is great, but I don't have it! I understand that we must not vent our frustrations on women

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a natural birth

2003-02-04 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
with them and also it is very easy to be accused of comparing apples and oranges and that will be that. marilyn - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid

[ozmidwifery] RE: rolls royce care on a holden budget

2003-02-04 Thread Malavisi, Pete
Now Justine you are really appealing to the boys on the list, now you are talking cars, but on a more serious note, you are dead right, NMAP is achievable for this country and as I was told at one australian college of midwives meeting that those who are not in tune with us in moving forwards

[ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)

2003-02-04 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
Title: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) Thank you Gail for your words of support. I can not stress hard enough though how I don't want this to go to the media YET! I think the media is a tool that we can use but as a last resort: for e.g. if the trial goes

[ozmidwifery] RE: out of pocket expenses new VBAC forum

2003-01-30 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Title: Message I am paying my obgyn an extra $850 and the gap between medicare fees and what my doctor actually charges per visit (about $15 extra). Everything else is covered by medicare or my health insurance. I spend on average around 15 to 30 minutes in his office but then I have a lot

[ozmidwifery] re NSW Lactation College Seminar in Wollongong in March

2003-01-28 Thread Judy Giesaitis
NSW L NSW LACTATIONCOLLEGE E EVENING SEMINAR Friday 14th March 2003 1800 Registration 1830 Breastfeeding in Public Amanda Cooper. Bachelor of Nutrition and Dietetics. 1900 Breastfeeding Through Pregnancy and

[ozmidwifery] Re: Had a win today, now Pinards

2003-01-22 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi Gretta Checkout the .birthinternational.com site - we have two sizes of Pinards (long ones easier to use in awkward positions) and they are made of lovely wood. Cheers Andrea At 06:23 PM 22/01/2003, Gretta Harris wrote: Sally, I am a B.Mid student and very keen to learn how to use a

[ozmidwifery] Re:

2003-01-17 Thread Leigh Evans
Well done to the parents. Great response from you Jess. Leigh - Original Message - From: J Stewart To: ozmid Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:34 PM Dear List,I just had a wonderful follow through experiance - minus a birth!i have been following this

[ozmidwifery] Re: Birth Matters

2003-01-17 Thread Jan Robinson
Dear Joy and Maternity Coalition Editorial Committee I have been reading the ozmidwifery dialogue about the MIPP page in Birth Matters with interest. I believe having the title of MIPP seems to narrow the scope of independent midwifery matters to the Victorian arena. Perhaps the MIPPS page

RE: [ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwife

2003-01-13 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
: [ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwife Hi Joanne, Thank you for your kind email. No I'm not from Brisbane so I really don't know anybody but one friend and my sister. I have moved back to the East Coast (from WA) so that my family and I: a/ can access services (eg health) that are not available

[ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwife

2003-01-12 Thread Michael Hall
Hi Joanne, Thank you for your kind email. No I'm not from Brisbane so I really don't know anybody but one friend and my sister. I have moved back to the East Coast (from WA) so that my family and I: a/ can access services (eg health) that are not available in the bush (despite what John Howard

[ozmidwifery] Re: LOTUS BIRTHS

2003-01-09 Thread ID AC Quanchi
Lyn I can't see that it will have any affect on the remaining beely button. I think that is genetically determined. From what i have observed over the years some babies have skin that finishes at the cord junction and some babies seem to have skin growing a centimetre or two along the cord. The

[ozmidwifery] Re: LOTUS BIRTHS

2003-01-09 Thread ID AC Quanchi
This week I had my first woman who wanted a lotus birth and i was fascinated to see her baby react quite strongly whenever her placenta was handled independently of her. When they were bundled together she seemed at peace but if she was lying down and the placenta was moved she reacted quite

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: LOTUS BIRTHS

2003-01-09 Thread Marian Niddrie
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[ozmidwifery] Re: Looking for Sally Ann

2003-01-08 Thread leigh pettingill
Hello, does anyone have email address for Sally Anne Brown? I'm wanting to contact her about setting up consumer group. I know she did this with great success in Colac/Otways. Cheers, Leigh Pettingill

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Looking for Sally Ann

2003-01-08 Thread Sally Westbury
Hi Leigh I would be great to a a birth support group happening up your way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The birth groups that Sally-Anne facilitated were fantastic. She was one of my main supports over East for me as seed of thought about a homebirth was often sewn by Sally-Anne.

[ozmidwifery] Re: Vietnam Veteran Entertainers

2003-01-06 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Dear Caroline, Happy New Year! May 2003 be a spectacularly successful, happy and healthy year for you. Thank you for the email...Iam forwarding this reply complete with your message to the ozmidwifery list. Best wishes, Aviva - Original Message - From: Caroline Winnall To: [EMAIL

[ozmidwifery] Re: Just realised you did not receive the inital email. Thank goodness. Please ignore my emails for 29 and 30 Dec. Thanks.

2002-12-29 Thread Brett and Kelly Makin
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[ozmidwifery] Re: Accupuncturist in Adelaide

2002-12-29 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
Hi Caroline, There is an accupuncturist who was working in the research department at the Women's and Children's hospital, conducting a trial (which has since finished) on the use of accupuncture and its effect on morning sickness. I think her name is Caroline Smith, and I reckon she's

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Accupuncturist in Adelaide

2002-12-29 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Hi there, All, This is really useful info as I'm in Adelaide too. Thanks, Tania. Lotsalove, Aviva - Original Message - From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Accupuncturist

[ozmidwifery] Re: 3rd stage info

2002-12-26 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
Lois, Thanks for the information, and your beautiful pamphlet, what lovely photos! Just arrived before XMas, but have been busy doing postnatal visits, so this is the first chance I've had to say thanks. Cheers, and here's to a New Year baby! Tania

[ozmidwifery] re Christmas break

2002-12-18 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Dear listers Please all have a safe and quiet break, will be back on deck in a couple of weeks Judy G

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-17 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
s. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Larry MeganSent: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 4:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Well said Caroline. I think we all want

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-16 Thread Larry Megan
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carolyn DonagheySent: Monday, 16 December 2002 11:00To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospitalHi CarolineHaving done exactly what you are preparing to do

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Rhonda
Rhonda. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 15, 2002 14:04:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Hi Rhonda I can't help

FW: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Sally Westbury
] Date: Sunday, December 15, 2002 21:05:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Rhonda, I acknowledge your thoughts but what you are talking about is disempowerment. What I am suggesting

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Carolyn Donaghey
PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RobynThompson Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 7:58 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re:mothers rights in public hospital Thisis an interesting topic and really good educational programme ab

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Jayne
I know of a couple of hospitals that don't allowvideo taping of births. This is just from women I know that have had theirbabies in these hospitals. Iwonder how many don't allow it. Interesting. Jayne - Yes well laws! I can tell you

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
What a drastic generalisation to suggest that a woman cant have a good birth experience in a private hospital. I know the statistics support that the intervention rates are higher but I bet those at Selangor would argue that they have woman who have the births they want and I had one of my

FW: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Sally Westbury
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital What a drastic generalisation to suggest that a woman cant have a good birth experience in a private hospital. I know the statistics support that the intervention rates are higher but I bet those at Selangor

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-13 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
]] On Behalf Of Margie Perkins Sent: Friday, 13 December 2002 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Cas, Julie and all, yes, here's a gasp and crossed fingers that all will go well. Well said Julie. I have also been very disurbed

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Robyn Thompson
n Just my comments, Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Debby MSent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:44 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Ji

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
f Of Robyn ThompsonSent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 7:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital This is an interesting topic and really good educational programme about rights and responsibilities would be good. The word Policy is

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Rhonda
LL GOES WELL FOR YOU. Regards Rhonda. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 12, 2002 23:19:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

[ozmidwifery] Re: Midwifery Today

2002-12-12 Thread Larissa Tim
Hi Alphia, It's from www.midwiferytoday.com Check it out - lots of great stuff! Hugs, Larissa - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery Today Great quote

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Margie Perkins
: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital I am new to this group as of today but wanted to comment on this thread. My second baby is due in April, I am VBAC and we are going to a private hospital

[ozmidwifery] re Birth Centre in the Illawarra NSW

2002-12-11 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Dear Denise The birth centre @ Bulli hospital was open for 3-4 years, worked fine, but there was NO backup at all other than the local GP's who were fine.The Illawarra Area Health Service used the same arguments they put forward as they used for the proposed closure of Shellharbour Mat

[ozmidwifery] re problems

2002-12-11 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Is anyone having problems with receiving the list, I have just had X2 , one from Barry MacGregor and another from Denise in some Asian characters Judy --- Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this email

[ozmidwifery] re portland

2002-12-11 Thread jireland
Finally found mws to go but baby beat us all awaiting news love jan

[ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-11 Thread Debby M
Jill, when I was trying to get into the Birth Centre at RWH I raised just this question. The NSW Womens Service actually publish a book on the rights of pregnant mothers - I gave my copy away after my baby was born and can't remember what it was called but I am sure they would know. In addition

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth

2002-12-10 Thread Debby M
ch vaginal was any more risk to VBACs than cephalic presentation. As it turned out the baby was cephalic but it was nice to know I had the option. This doctor is based in Townsville. Debby From: "Jayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subje

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth

2002-12-10 Thread Robyn Thompson
What a wonderful experience -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nicole and gareth Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth To all mws and consumers I have just witnessed

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:

2002-12-10 Thread Jo Slamen
: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Jan, was it at the hospital I heard suggested to you last wednesday, I'll leave it to you to sing their praises but I think it would be good to let others know where

Re: [ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures

2002-12-10 Thread Laraine Hood
) Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures Dear All I have done a bit of research re the handouts from the OB's, Rang the college office in Sydney and was told that they were available for purchase by the OB's for them to give out

[ozmidwifery] RE:

2002-12-09 Thread Larry Megan
Congratulations to the family and those supporting the birth, yippee! Megan. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 2:55To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: To

[ozmidwifery] Re:

2002-12-09 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Hearty congratulations to you all involved! How fabulous! I'm applauding from here! Aviva - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:54 PM To all mws and consumers I have just witnessed a complete

[ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures

2002-12-08 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Dear All I have done a bit of research re the handouts from the OB's, Rang the college office in Sydney and was told that they were available for purchase by the OB's for them to give out the their patients "not for the general public". The receptionist said that the OB's then put their

[ozmidwifery] re: Alice's birth

2002-12-05 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
Aviva, How lovely to open the paper this week and see your name included in Alice's birth notice. What a lovely way for them to publically acknowledge the wonderful support and encouragement you gave them in their journey. Well done!! Tania xx

[ozmidwifery] Re: Was National get-together/Conference now references

2002-12-05 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello Kathy, You'll find the references that I have used on our web site - if you go to the Essential Parent pages, you'll see that I have uploaded some of the most useful sections of Preparing for Birth: Mothers (drugs and obstetric procedures etc) onto the site, and have included the

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: Alice's birth

2002-12-05 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re: Alice's birth Aviva, How lovely to open the paper this week and see your name included in Alice's birth notice. What a lovely way for them to publically acknowledge the wonderful support and encouragement you gave them in their journey. Well done!! Tania xx

[ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents

2002-12-04 Thread Alphia Possamai
Hi Aviva, Ihave just been going through my diary. I do not think I will be available for an interview until January. My Mother is coming to visit and will be here next week. Beyond that both of my children seem to have a million different functions at their schools right now! So I would love to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents

2002-12-04 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Yes, Alphia, that's fine. I'll leave it up to you and look forward to it, whenever it is. Enjoy it all. Aviva - Original Message - From: Alphia Possamai To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents Hi Aviva,but I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-12-03 Thread Denise Hynd
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

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[ozmidwifery] Re: RUBELLA SCREENING (OR CALL ME LORETTA)

2002-12-03 Thread Judy Chapman
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[ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson

2002-12-03 Thread Rosemary Wayne Weckert
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Answer to Debby State/Fed Health Funding Hey Robyn What about coming to Alice Springs?. The midwives here are wanting to implement continuity of care. Cheers Rosemary Project Desert Rose Midwife

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson

2002-12-03 Thread Robyn Thompson
, 2002 1:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson Hey Robyn What about coming to Alice Springs?. The midwives here are wanting to implement continuity of care. Cheers Rosemary Project Desert Rose Midwife

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson

2002-12-03 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson Rosemary Tell me more about it so understand what your needs are? Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rosemary Wayne

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-02 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
I like this one! aviva I guess the problem is finding a gentleman! or a man who will be one. LOL Rhonda ---Original Message--- --- Checked by AVG anti-virus

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-01 Thread Rhonda
: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies! I also like this definition. My Mum told me that a lady is a woman who inspired a man to be a gentleman. Judy From: "Aviva Sheb'a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-01 Thread Pinky McKay
mm!!! Touche! Pinky - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies! I guess the problem is finding a gentleman

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-12-01 Thread Barry MacGregor
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-30 Thread Jan Robinson
] To: Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Annie Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate On 27/11/02 10:30 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need to comment on little

[ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-11-30 Thread Judy Chapman
I also like this definition. My Mum told me that a lady is a woman who inspired a man to be a gentleman. Judy From: "Aviva Sheb'a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies! Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:34:17

[ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Jan Robinson
On 27/11/02 10:30 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need to comment on little and older children with their mum and day at the very special family occasion - birth of a new baby. Flexibility, inclusion, patience, discussion, eye contact, listen, touch, talk and be very

[ozmidwifery] Re: [Maternitycoalitonmidwives] meeting and questionnaire

2002-11-29 Thread Jan Robinson
Dear Denise and Robyn I'm not sure what you are saddened about when ASIM, HBA, ACMI already come under the umbrella of Maternity Coalition and support the concept of the midwife choice for every Australian woman totally. In fact ASIM was involved in the writing and endorsement of the Maternity

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate On 27/11/02 10:30 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need to comment on little and older children with their mum and day at the very special family occasion

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Thompson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Annie Sprague Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate On 27/11/02 10:30 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need to comment on little and older children with their mum and day at the very special family occasion - birth

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-29 Thread Denise Hynd
] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise In a message dated 29/11/02 9:51:41 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reality is we will not get the profession together

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Debby M
From a consumer point of view - I was very fortuneate when I had my birth centre birth recently to have a midwife who had no qualms in accepting what I wanted for my delivery despite the fact that it was totally against a number of the hospital's standard policies for VBAC women. I laboured

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Sally Westbury
as midwives we must stop declaring ourselves as victims of circumstance and become the architects of our own transformation Tina Pettigrew I believe that this is the key for any hope in implementing NMAP. Until we see how we could be as midwives, autonomous respected professionals, NMAP

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Denise Hynd
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Denise Hynd
] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise In a message dated 27/11/02 10:53:05 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear TinaHow wonderful and honest you are. I think the most difficult thing

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 28/11/02 9:11:56 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So to those of you who are brave enough to accept the responsibility in order to ensure your "mothers" have the best possible delivery I salute you, and to those who do not yet do this then please

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 29/11/02 9:51:41 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reality is we will not get the profession together as a whole I understand many NZ fought and are still not taking the opportunities of the changes there! As one who has been on state and national

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
in harmony to achieve your goals. Congratulations. Robyn www.melbmidwifery.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Debby MSent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise “as midwives we must stop declaring ourselves as victims of circumstance and become the architects of our own transformation” Tina Pettigrew I believe

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Excellent idea. I am all for it. marilyn - Original Message - From: Robyn Thompson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise OK This is my suggestion. Long and hard

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Rhonda
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) What about the possibility of child care within the hospital? I can hear the screams of budget budget, etc. Yet it's not such a far-fetched idea. How many people need to use

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Rhonda
o me after the birth of my daughter at 27weeks. Regards Rhonda. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:19:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmid

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
it to the women seems logical to me! Tania - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) What about the possibility of child care within

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-27 Thread Robyn Thompson
ina. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Judy ChapmanSent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:31 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise Recently in working with a follow thru wo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Kirsten Blacker
within the hospital - how about on site childcare for the STAFF to use? Kirsten - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) What about

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-27 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 27/11/02 10:53:05 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Tina How wonderful and honest you are. I think the most difficult thing for midwives who work in this model is the inability to have autonomy as we know it because of perpetuation of a model using

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Of course child care for staff too! Is this all so obvious nobody thought about it, or has it been thrown around and out? Aviva - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Pinky McKay
confronted with a new sibling so really not appropriate except in emergencies Pinky - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Of co

[ozmidwifery] RE Grandparently thoughts

2002-11-27 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Dear All I was reading the list today and just had to put in my thoughts, I have been a birth centre midwife for yonks. I no longer have the joys of working for the Illawarra Area Health Service (YAY) so no longer have the joys of helping babies birth (so sad). My lovely daughter helped

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Yes, I'd agree with that! could be bad enough for some adults! aviva Mind you I think it can be confusing for children to be suddenly "dumped" with strangers at any major time of change without some preparation -it could be traumatic to a toddler to be popped in the care of complete

FW: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Rhonda
Sally, you captured my point of view exactly when you said that you would sit on the floor and play with the child etc How lovely! Not wanting to offend anyone or direct this at anyone - (I will even apologies in advance

Fw: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-26 Thread jireland
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Plans around birth incl children need to remain open to change ie leaving kids asleep following the childs needs

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-26 Thread Ken Ward
PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Dear robin, I can understand this attitude but when the parents have made every effort to get help and have been unable to contact anyone (just bad timing rather

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