Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-22 Thread Jeannine Bradow
Wow what a response you've had Janet. I've now read thru all postings and have found your packages. So disregard my request. Many many thanx. Jeannine -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-22 Thread Jeannine Bradow
Janet, In what format are your "care packages"? Are they easily downoadable? If so I would love to look at them. Thanx Janet. Jeannine [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-22 Thread sally williams
Would love to see your care packages Janet. Will you post them?   Sally - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage  This dad

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Janet Fraser
> > > Tania > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Janet Fraser > > > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage > > > > > > >

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Janet Fraser
ect: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage > Could I bother you for a copy too?? Thankyou :) > > Holly > > > JoFromOz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Janet Fraser wrote: > > > > > > > This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of a

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Janet Fraser > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage > > > This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting i

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread priddis6
Could I bother you for a copy too?? Thankyou :) Holly JoFromOz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Janet Fraser wrote: > > > This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing > > the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue > > them if they cut th

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Joy Cocks
Me to please Thanks, Joy   Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLCBRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Ping Bullock \(G\)
Please send care package to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. Ping

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Dean & Jo
2005 10:48 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage   me too please.   Kate - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM Subject

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Sonja
: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage  This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue them if they cut the cord unnecessarily.   This is pretty much what I teach women about

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread The Finch Family
Me too Trish   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: 22 June 2005 09:24 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage    This dad then told them that he believed in the

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Glenys Armstrong
oops sorry Janet, didn't mean to call you Jo, Glenys

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Glenys Armstrong
Yes please Jo, I would love to read the care packages Glenys [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread JoFromOz
Janet Fraser wrote:  This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue them if they cut the cord unnecessarily.   This is pretty much what I teach women about birth although I d

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Kate &/or Nick
me too please.   Kate - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage  This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Tania & Laurie
I would also love the see your care packages. Tania - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage  This dad then told them that

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Alan Rooney
] physiological 3rd stage  This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue them if they cut the cord unnecessarily.   This is pretty much what I teach women about birth although I don't reco

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Sally Westbury
I would love to see your package Janet.   Love Sally

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Janet Fraser
 This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue them if they cut the cord unnecessarily.   This is pretty much what I teach women about birth although I don't recommend suing all that often ;-). I cert

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Caines Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 5:11 PM To: OzMid List Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage   Dear Susan and All As a non-clinician I have kept out of this discussion, although I am very interested. A midwife friend of mine mentioned that blood loss was not really measured outside

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Sally Westbury
I saw a fantastic father stand up for what he believed in. In a teaching hospital they informed him that they would cut the cord immediately in order to take blood gases. When he questioned this the doctor told him that it was to ensure that the baby was well at birth so that he could not

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Susan Cudlipp
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage I agree that blood loss is rarely measured accurately, and only takes into account initial (labour ward) loss, C/S loss is rarely even recorded.  I did read somewhere that in physiological birth initial loss may appear heavier but that overall

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Mary Murphy
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Congrats Justine, I didn’t know you were having another baby.  Best wishes, MM   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Justine Caines Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 5:11

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Dear Susan and All As a non-clinician I have kept out of this discussion, although I am very interested. A midwife friend of mine mentioned that blood loss was not really measured outside the birth unit so the true loss associated with managed

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-21 Thread Susan Cudlipp
- Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bristol.asp    Try this link Sue. Cheers, MM

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-20 Thread Mary Murphy
graphics.com.au Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage   http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bristol.asp    Try this link Sue. Cheers, MM Thanks Mary - I'd like to see it - would you post or fax to me?  Fax

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-20 Thread Gloria Lemay
rding the normal" extends well past the moment of birth into the placenta and nursing time. Gloria Lemay, Vancouver, BC Canada   - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-20 Thread Mary Murphy
,Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-20 Thread Janet Fraser
On a related issue, I find this to be an invaluable resource. http://www.cordclamping.com/ It has some great info on physiological 3rd stage as well as the dangers of early cord clamping. All OBs could use this info. I'm startled by how many hospitals think pulling on a cord is ok???!!! Jane

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-20 Thread Denise Hynd
nd by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."   — Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Hi Denise I wanted

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-19 Thread Susan Cudlipp
y To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Sue I have an article By Dr John Stevenson critiquing the Prendiville third stage trial.  The doctors wouldn?t take any notice as they deregistere

RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-19 Thread Mary Murphy
-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 4:10 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage   Hi Denise I wanted some info that I could use in promoting

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-19 Thread Susan Cudlipp
005 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Dear Sue Who is it you want the evidence for woman or the Ob?The women has accept the dr's scaremongering   I think  both need information on what is informed consent And she needs to be reminded to trust her own

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-16 Thread Denise Hynd
June 16, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage Dear list-wives Have just had a frustrating 'discussion' with one of our obs. A woman has written a very clear birth plan stating that she wants no interventions unless absolutely necessary.  The 'proble

[ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

2005-06-16 Thread Susan Cudlipp
Dear list-wives Have just had a frustrating 'discussion' with one of our obs. A woman has written a very clear birth plan stating that she wants no interventions unless absolutely necessary.  The 'problem' being that she is a JW and will not accept a transfusion under any circumstances.  The

Re: [ozmidwifery] Physiological 3rd stage.

2002-09-29 Thread Lynne Staff
attis   - Original Message - From: lyn kelson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Physiological 3rd stage.   Dear List, I am seeking information about physiol