Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

d manipulation will alter that, so tell it like it is & name it appropriately. BM - Original Message - From: "Gloria Lemay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rav

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8:15 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I tend to agree with Jenny, Community led birth centre would address the potential for alienating other family members, particularly fathers who at times need just as much support and understanding as the mothers, th

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nothing wrong with midwives leading the way. > Many women wish to > have the guidance and leadership of a midwife and > that's what they'll get in > those units. I like to have things named > accurately instead of all the > mumbo-jumbo positive thinking nauseating thi

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:01 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I think the 'baby friendly initiative' doesn't

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o-jumbo positive thinking nauseating things that people think up in order to smear peanut butter over bad behaviour. Gloria in Canada - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warnin

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I tend to agree with Jenny, Community led birth centre would address the potential for alienating other family members, particularly fathers who at times need just as much support and understanding as the mothers, the other point I like is that it literally throws it back onto the community to take

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hilst I had a nap. If we are going to be truely 'baby friendly' we need to move birth back into the family environment. Rachel From: JoFromOz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwif

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

ey are mostly a mess whilst their babies are inevitably thriving. however their relationships, mental states & lives are often in despair. We need to provide a balance, that's the issue. BM - Original Message - From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

idwifery staff on tap. Just my thoughts... Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 4:23 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

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Kind of like ‘mother friendly childbirth initiative’ (http://www.motherfriendly.org/MFCI/steps/), except ‘mother’ becomes ‘woman’ to include a midwife. Sounds nice.   -Original Message- From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Be

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. Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 4:23 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! Kate, Must admit I also promot

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It's not just all about breast-feeding though is it ? BM - Original Message - From: "Emily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! wow does she not know of c

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p;/or Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! - >>how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had

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wow does she not know of colostrum? or the link b/w early feeds and breastfeeding success ? or think women may miss their bub? how strange. --- Kate &/or Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - >>how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? > > There's a lot of different definitions of that

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- >>how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement with a m/w who promoted woman-friendly over baby-friendly. Her idea of w-f was to have longer hospital stays, baby in nursery, bottlefed until woman's milk comes in. Sh

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rom: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" The couple who had ob care and had a 38hr labour and ended up with forceps   What were the reasons for this? Was she i

Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

- Original Message - From: Vedrana Valčić   “Nick, I've had 30 years of experience and the disaster can come out of the clear blue sky in a patient who's been assessed as low risk and they happen in a heartbeat. They happen so rapidly that they are stunning.”

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r. So congrats and thankyou for your poised and rational comments, Sally.   Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com   - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery le

RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

t: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:33 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"   Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm   Cheers Honey - Original Message - From: &

RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

“I knew it was going to be a mild disaster”…  Quite the opposite Sally, there are, I’m sure, many of us out here who admire greatly your ability to think on your feet and point out that Sri Devis transfer illustrates exactly how the unit works, involving a tertiary centre in a safe and

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How about "Evidence Based Care Centre"? : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

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Love 'em all Brenda! Jo Bainbridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" What about MMU

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e - From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Dear Oz mids and AndreaI agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have  a better ter

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What about MMU Units "Mothers & Midwives United" Mother Lead Unit (MLU) Unit ? What about women or mother chosen care ( MCC) ? OR It's a " women chosen care/r" centre ? ie the WCC unit. BM - Original Message - From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September

RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

Anne Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"   Dear Sally,   You and the Ryde Birth Centre still looked terrific to me.  Liked how the one Ob. supported Midwives in the 7

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I don't think the 7:30 report segment was all that bad. I only caught the last 1/2 of it though. When I read the transcript, I noticed that you got your title, but there was no 'Dr' infront of Peter Mourik's name ;) I wrote a little letter to the 7:30 report guestbook. Jo (Mum to Will, alm

RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

0 September 2005 8:03 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm Cheers Honey -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

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Oh why are you all so pesimistic.(!) i thought the story was good and agree it made the prominent OB look exactly like he is. I thought it portrayed well the fact that women could easily be transferred in labour and the couple in question were quite happy to not only move but were happy to return

Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

ember 20, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Sally, it wasn't a disaster. You presented extremely well.  We all know that they will edit hours of filming to show a few seconds of what they want to portray, however I felt the overriding

Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Dear Oz mids and AndreaI agr

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Dear Oz mids and AndreaI agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have  a better term..and on the day in Newcastle I proposed we stop suggesting any one practitioner is

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Dear Oz mids and Andrea I agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have  a better term..and on the day in Newcastle I proposed we stop suggesting any one practitioner is more important than another in this stuff and call the units 'co-operative maternity units'!! Co-ops between women midwiv

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Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm Cheers Honey - Original Message - From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" > As I watched the 7.

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Dear Andrea Words, their overt and unrecognised implications were quite evident last night as ever in the dialogue about birth I found myself remembering Michell Odent's talking of the origin of Obstetrician and Midwife last nite ! I wonder when Dr M's attitude that birth is a disaster waitin