Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-07 Thread Andrea Quanchi
yes she also can see the funny side of it now. She thought I was nuts when I asked her where she wanted to have the baby because she was convinced she had hours to go because of her previous experiences The whole thing is so much fun sometimes Andrea On 07/10/2006, at 2:08 PM, Judy Chapman

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2006-10-06 Thread B G
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions In defence of Di...she obviously works in a hospital with registrar potentially hanging around the door..Sometimes 'best practice' may need to be modified to prevent the women from ending up with an instrumental birth..or synto

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Lisa Gierke
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Friday, 6 October 2006 3:52 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Hi Lisa, there was definitely no intent of implied criticism when I said no should haves. Just

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2006-10-06 Thread diane
hydration. Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Lisa Gierke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions No Mary wasn't directing this at you or anyone in general really...just feel

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2006-10-06 Thread Lisa Gierke
is somewhere sleeping like they should be and leaving the normal to us! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B G Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 4:14 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Why only hanging

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2006-10-06 Thread Susan Cudlipp
: Michelle Windsor To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Hi Di, This reminds me of scenario that a cousin of mine had with her second bub. Her contractions basically stopped I think when she

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Lisa Barrett
: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Along the theme of slow labours: I just had a labouring mum with very slow contractions today. She came in in the night thinking she'd SROM'd

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2006-10-06 Thread cath nolan
I have given tired women a spoonful of honey around this stage, sometimes when things just seem to be going off the boil and tiredness is kicking in. It seems to work magically, and one of the Obs Reg at my work now lets me give that a go before mentioning the synto.He has seen it work a

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Philippa Scott
@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of cath nolan Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 8:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions I have given tired women a spoonful of honey around this stage, sometimes when things just

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Susan Cudlipp
settings. Cheers, sue - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Hi Sue, Without any malicious intent I'm again going to attempt an opinion

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2006-10-06 Thread Susan Cudlipp
PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions I had a Sudanese client a while back whose other support person (another Sudanese woman) gave the client hot water with about 10 sugars in it. Traditionally they use a slightly different hot mixture she said, but boy did it pick

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Lisa Barrett
Hi Sue, Thanks for sharing the information. Your right it is almost impossible to avoid active intervention when birthing in the system even with great midwives like yourself supporting. Part of the problem appears to be the lack of belief that waiting and doing nothing is going to work.

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Janet Fraser
I've known more than one woman who has waited many hours, even overnight. I know a woman who fully dilated, went to bed and slept all night then got up in the morning and pushed her baby out. It's interesting how wide the variation of normal is when birth is relatively undisturbed. I'd have paid

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Sometimes at home the women get just as despondent but the difference is that no one is going to walk through the door and under mine me and 'save' her.Last week I was with a women who was birthing at home after three very different and for a variety of reasons not so great labours.. She had done

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrea This is a beautiful story and yes you are so right about women asking to go home/hospital/ - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery

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2006-10-06 Thread Melissa Singer
and there were no signs of obstruction, no moulding etc. Sorry its so long but any thoughts? Melissa - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Judy Chapman
Lisa, I am sure you have said what many of us think. I have worked like that for years and one gets sick of the tightrope all of the time. I am so glad that I am now working without drs, it is just protocols now. Cheers Judy --- Lisa Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-06 Thread Judy Chapman
Fantastic story Andrea. As I am just starting in home birth I love hearing these variations from hospital stuff. Cheers Judy PS, bet she was pleased after the fact that you had not immediately jumped to ring an ambulance. --- Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes at home the

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Lisa Barrett
Sounds to me like this woman needed rest and carbohydrates when she had a rim. Her body was telling you she needed a rest before she could get this baby moving. This may have prevented any stress on her or her baby. You said:: !!! Obviously not easy to get FH at this stage but was

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2006-10-05 Thread Mary Murphy
Di, It sounds as tho you managed a difficult situation in the best way you knew, and that is all one can do. You are now seeking to learn from it and we will obviously give you tips based on our experiences. Dont feel that you should have etc. Many midwifery authors in all kinds of

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Lisa Gierke
Mary M said: I am old enough to remember doctors saying turn her on her side and give her a rest, Sis, in a time when IV fluids, synto drip and epidurals were available but not used so aggressively. Wow, doctors actually said that...you must be joshing us Mary!! In our place the synto

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Grant and Louise McLeod
on with it. Louise rural NSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 10/06/06 09:02:53 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Mary M said: "I am old enough to remember doctors saying "tur

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2006-10-05 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi Di, Just a point on fluids in labour - if a woman is overloaded with fluid (via a drip) her system, vasopressin (antidiuretic hormone) will kick in to stop her body being flooded with fluid. This hormone is produced from the same source as oxytocin (posterior putuitary glad). Perhaps

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Michelle Windsor
Hi Di,This reminds me of scenario that a cousin of mine had with her second bub. Her contractions basically stopped I think when she was fully and she did end up having some synto to get them going again. But what had happened was that the midwife (who said she could have bitten her tongue as

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread B G
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Robertson Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 11:56 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Hi Di, Just a point on fluids in labour - if a woman is overloaded with fluid (via a drip) her system, vasopressin

Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Lisa Barrett
ubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Di, It sounds as tho you managed a difficult situation in the best way you knew, and that is all one can do. You are now seeking to learn from it and we will obviously give you tips based on our experiences. Don’t feel that you “should have

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Lisa Gierke
In defence of Di...she obviously works in a hospital with registrar potentially hanging around the door..Sometimes 'best practice' may need to be modified to prevent the women from ending up with an instrumental birth..or synto...or an epidural ..or even a CS The lesser of two evils. The

RE: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions

2006-10-05 Thread Mary Murphy
in labour. sorry cant remember where. MM From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 1:19 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Contractions Sorry Mary