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From: hplerchbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife is a midwife...?
It seems to me that people think that a caseloading midwife never cares
for
people who are afraid of childbirth. (both men women) The truth is, that
many of my clients are just as frightened as those in the system. The
difference is, that at each
ever it is so hard to talk so many women out of
"their epidural", there has been an amazing PR campaign.
marilyn
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Andrea,
Your insights on metropolitan hospitals is really interesting. Reading
this
list (and especially this topic) I really am quite
It seems to me that people think that a caseloading midwife never cares for
people who are afraid of childbirth. (both men women) The truth is, that
many of my clients are just as frightened as those in the system. The
difference is, that at each prenatal visit we talk about the issues and how
with trust, love and
confidence in your midwife - who knows you and your little family so
intimately.
Nicole
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It seems
if I start the labour off it will probably be long, hard and painful" -
Her response?
I DON'T CARE! I want my baby out NOW -
(sigh)
Sue
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Sue, I think that the lack of "continuity of care" models contribute
enormously to the attitude of women to their labour birth. During
1-2-1- care we have the opportunity to educate women on WHY labour is important
to both the woman and the baby. (a la Michel Odent Sarah Buckley)
Why it
So elegantly and wonderfully said, Mary.
marilyn
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It seems to me that people think that a caseloading midwife never
I encounter this every time I do shifts at a
particular hospital in CQ, so much so I turn down casual shifts there unless I'm
feeling particularly strong in mind and body. And my pet hate is being called a
nurse instead of a midwife.
cheers Louise
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practice? Just thinking aloud.
Cheryl
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:37 +1000
Hello Nicole,
I understand your frustration and amazement about the different
Michelle, I hear what you're saying loud clear from a student's point of view!
While I have been blessed to have been able to work with some fabulously woman-centred midwives both within the hospital setting outside, it is enormously frustrating to betaught all of the woman-centred stuff @ uni
.
There is always hope!
Regards (from a very non-compliant student
'obstetric'midwife!)
Michelle Z.
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I have been
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Dear Nicole and all
I assume you are talking about Katoomba?
I was unaware that you were still involved. The lack of action at Katoomba is a tragedy and I believe it was set up to fail (no different to many other AHS -dont worry).
Although
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife is a midwife...?
we just recieved a virus so dont open anything that
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Regards Elissa and David
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Then there are others who cannot (will not) differentiate the
differences between midwives and registered nurses. What about
Queensland Health the employing authority who persistently refused to
backpay hospital trained midwives for their entitled qualification
allowances? I wonder how many
Hello Nicole,
I understand your frustration and amazement about the different styles of
midwifery that are out there. I agree with Mary that the environemnt in
the hospital has a powerful effect on the midwives who work there, as well
as the women and the comment from Micehlle (the student)
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midwife...?
Your comments Nicole are superb.
I am currently finishing my 'obstetric training'
at a 'referral hospital' as a student midwife.
Unfortunately, Ihave got myself into big
trouble trying to empower women and give woman-centred care
Go Girl!
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I read this today and wanted to chat about this
without fear of being lynched! lol
I have been feeling exactly the same way -
especially of late Unfortunately, there is a huge distinction between true
woman centered midwives and obstet nurses..
After working for the most part of two years on
trying to set up a midwfery-led model at our local hospital... have just
will also come out from under the obsteric pile also!!
Denise
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I have been feeling exactly the same way
Lets get back to
WOMEN IN THE KNOW
KNOW A MIDWIFE
THere is a little graphic of a pregnant woman and a midwife shaking hands in the middle of this bumper sticker.
Jan
On Friday, April 9, 2004, at 01:25 PM, Jo Dean Bainbridge wrote:
I read this today and wanted to chat about this without
: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:52
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife is a
midwife...?
Lets get back toWOMEN IN THE
KNOWKNOW A MIDWIFETHere is a little
graphic of a pregnant woman and a midwife shaking hands in the middle of this
bumper sticker.JanOn Friday, April 9, 2004, at 01:25 PM
Dear Jo,
No lynching
You are right!!
For me Midwives, like consumers, are
microcosm of our society!
None are all good, some have some bad
daysor times or in the reflection of others look likeand we
can not all respond appropriately to every one in every
situation.
Even those who
agree. So many 'midwives' I've worked with are really 'ob
nurses'. They do ARM's, continuous CTG's on healthy women, they push analgesic,
they want her to do what they want,the dr orders. Active 3rd stage, 4/24 VE's,
augment if progress 'too slow'. Need I go on? They take control, and
some
in this area.
Sadie
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agree. So many 'midwives' I've worked with are really 'ob
nurses'. They do ARM's, continuous
Jo,
I totally agree with you! Working in a tertiary
setting I know first hand that what you say is true, and unfortunately it is
these 'ob nurses' that seem to have the loudest voice, so sabotaging any effort
to create midwifery led care in any form. Which I find sad and
frustrating.
I
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