[ozmidwifery] Fw: Joyous Birth Big sigh :) This is lovely

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Subject: Joyous Birth Big sigh :) This is lovely http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw104008_20040910.htmGreat, short homebirth story! Love Abby Every woman and every baby and every family have the right to Joyous Birth! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [ozmidwifery] Victorian Home Birth Stats

2004-09-13 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
Hi Katrina, MIPPs have just received their copies in the mail of the 2003 stats. Is there anything I can help you with or copy for you? Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - Hi, can someone please email me or point me in the direction of the most recent Vic Homebirth Stats? Many thanks,

Re: [ozmidwifery] antenatal notes template

2004-09-13 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Kirsten, Sorry for taking so long to answer but I havent seen any other replies. I just made up a card on my computer basing it on locally used ones that are quite good. The woman keep these. My antenatal notes I just do on my computer and is a copy of the same page and then I write contemporous

[ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Belinda Maier
I am extraordinarily disappointed that for some women the devotion to thecare and wellbeing of women extends only to those who 'fit'. I accept anywoman's right to belief in how to manage their own lifestyle and the choicestherein, therefore I think it is absolutely okay to disagree

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
More quotes and generosity of spirit thank you Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Belinda Maier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Violence is perpetrated against women and children all over the world, lets not equate abortion in this, lets make the world a better place for women and children to be born into and to live. I'm not sure that I quite understand what you are saying, but I think you are saying that we

[ozmidwifery] Abortion Facts in Australia

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Here are some, what I find, disturbing facts about abortion in Australia. -There are 100,000 abortions in Australia each year.-There are 800 abortions each week in NSW - approximately 40,000 annually.-There are 250,000 live births each year in Australia, which means that there are 2 aborted

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because they don't want to harm or killan animal, yet they will willfully, and by choice, harm and kill

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Joyous Birth Fw: [birthnews] FW: raffle to support Jeanine Parvati Baker, birthkeeper

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
-Original Message-From: Sarah J Buckley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 8:12 PMTo: Sarah BuckleySubject: raffle to support Jeanine Parvati Baker, birthkeeper Dear friends I am organising the Australian branch of a US raffle to benefit my friendand

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy

2004-09-13 Thread sally
Unfortunately drugs and violence are a fact of life, we see it every day on the TV and in the papers, so it goes without saying that women and children are affected. We need to give these women and children the best possible care, to give them the best possible chance to help them change their

[ozmidwifery] Are there any Alice Springs midwives out there?

2004-09-13 Thread Anglodutch NTL Account
Hi all, Just wondering if any midwives who work at ASH read this mailing list. If so, I'd love to hear from you! I am presently working in the UK but coming to work in Alice Springs early next year. You can contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Claudia Riley. --- Outgoing mail is

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Abby: I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries. Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies

[ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Leanne Veitch
Abby and Toby wrote: Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because they don't want to harm or kill an animal, yet they will willfully, and by

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Trish David
Dear Listers. I can't resist my two-bob's worth (yes a child of the predecimal era). I would personally resist fundamentalism in all things, that is, the extremist views on any topic, one way or the other. Fundamentalism is the cause of many of the world's woes. Extremist views on abortion do defy

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Well said Trish. Years ago when I first started @ uni, we had one subject on abortion specifically. As I read, I found that I needed to take a stand, one way or another, but the more that I read the less able I was to make a stand. I guess the old adage of walk a mile in their shoes is very

[ozmidwifery] review of maternity services in QLD

2004-09-13 Thread cath nolan
Hi, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned previously. I have just seen Saturdays Australian (I live in a remote part of Australia and get the paper days later)regarding an invitation for public comment on pg 7.,.into review of maternity services in QLD. There is an email for information.

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc Abby, use your passion to work to reduce unwanted pregnancies, rather than judge those who make such a difficult choice. Just wanted to make it clear that I judge the action, not the woman. A very good friend of mine had an abortion, I love her but

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries. Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies one is

[ozmidwifery] Another client moving east!!!!

2004-09-13 Thread Laraine Hood
Hi all again, this time I have a Community Midwifery Program client moving around but will be in Brisbane for Christmas, and then probably birth in Tamworth EDB 5-02-05. They are there for the Country Music Festival (about Jan 24th). She had planned a homebirth here in WA, but will be

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
We are talking about a procedure much more akin to the removal of unwanted/unviable flesh from a woman's body, to assess it from a purely medical point of view. I would love to hear this said to Gianna, the aborted fetus that lived to tell of her story. How can we call, something two people have

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc

2004-09-13 Thread Honey Acharya
Abby I find your writings on abortion very judgemental of others. How can you sit in judgment when you personally have not been through abortion and know what it is like, or know why a woman would make that choice? It seems youhave never had to face a situation personally with abortion. Or

[ozmidwifery] abortion 'discussion'?

2004-09-13 Thread Belinda Maier
I am extraordinarily disappointed that for some women the devotion to the care and wellbeing of women extends only to those who 'fit'. I accept any woman's right to belief in how to manage their own lifestyle and the choices therein, therefore I think it is absolutely okay to disagree with

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
Abby, This is clearly an issue that you feel very strongly about and one that you are willing to fight for. I applaud you for having such a passion. Thought it might be worth considering the perspective of others for short time. Abortion for most women is not an easy decision. It is not

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead