RE: [ozmidwifery] addresses
Title: Bericht Tina Pettigrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] greetings Lieve Lieve Huybrechts vroedvrouw 0477/740853 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Jan IrelandVerzonden: zaterdag 29 oktober 2005 22:04Aan: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auOnderwerp: [ozmidwifery] addresses please help r u there or can you help need to contact angela hooper tina pettigrew lyn from family bc geelong thankyou jan --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005
[ozmidwifery] Breastpump hire in Sydney
Hi, I just wanted to let everyone know that The Australian Breastfeeding Association has opened a new store in Sydney. The address is 4 McMullen Ave, Castle Hill NSW 9am-3pm Monday-Friday. Phone 02 8853 4900 Families can hire breastpumps, purchase books, slings and other great stuff. The trained staff who are breastfeeding counsellors do bra fittings. There is great stuff for midwives and Lactation consultants. If you are in the area pop in some-time and say hi to Liz Barb Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 2Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED]Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
not all midwives are oppressed or socialized unwillingly, they are often active participants in the way birth is medicalised and deemed as risk. they can be intelligent, educated women who believe in the way they manage birth. many only see it as work, something they do rather somethign that they are... to be proud of and cherished. unfortunately the lack of experience or knowledge about unmedicalsed ways of managing birth and the power of medicine and technology encourages and enforces their beliefs and practices. in saying this however once again I must encourage us all not to pity or dismiss hospital based midwives because firstly that is where most women birth and secondly many struggle day to day circumventing, manipulating or challenging the system, doctors other midwives, policies or procedures so they can care for women well (as i am sure Rachel is experiencing). it is often a lonely position to be in where you can be actively discriminated against and harrased . I do not lack confidence in my skills as a homebirth or hospital based midiwfe, the reality is there are significant differences in being able to use them. Belinda wump fish wrote: I think any midwife who has spent their career in a hospital setting would need 're-wiring' to attend homebirths. Hospital birth is so different to homebirth, and the danger is that midwives bring the hospital and it's guidelines to the home. I don't think it is a case of 'upskilling', just a totally different way of working and hospital midwives have been oppressed and socialised into a particular way of practising. They often lack confidence in their own midwifery skills and women's ability to birth. Rachel - trapped in a hospital with pinging machines and missing homebirth and midwifery. From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today... Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:06:12 +0930 Love that term, Macdonaldisation! I also get concerned when I hear of midwives needing to be upskilled to attend 'normal' births, or to give women care in water, etc. I think as a midwife we should all be able to handle the 'normal'. I personally would need upskilling to work in a tertiary institution with all those machines that go 'ping'! Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2005 1:57 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today... a big part of it is the multi skilling crap which is just a way of getting constant work out an individual which i think is why so many places are against direct mid entry midwives, they cant be used like slaves to work everywhere anywhere anytime. it is an evolving problem and much to do with globalisation and utilising the human resources to the best benefit of corporation which hospitals are fast becoming. The macdonaldisation of society!!! It really worries me Belinda Tania Smallwood wrote: Not just a question for Barb, but anyone who knows about it, I'm curious to know about the Midwife/nurse practitioner that you refer to in Qld. What exactly do they do? How is this different to working within the scope of a registered midwife? I'm aware that the college is not supportive of the notion of midwives becoming NP's, but I'm actually interested in what role they play in maternity care over and above the general run of the mill midwife? Cheers, Tania -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
Hi Rachel, It is difficult practicing in a new country no matter what you do, culturally Aust UK are so dissimilar it's even more frustrating. I am a Kiwi am used to the NZ system which is very different to here. I find Aust women annoyingly passive apathetic regarding midwifery pregnancy generally, they are very American in their attitudes beliefs actually that drives me insane. In NZ we are much more English, it took me ages to get my head around the 'user pays' system here. I still don't believe women should have to pay to have a choice in their pregnancy care or place of birth, it is their right, not privilege (hence I don't make a profit from my HB practice as I often don't charge women, I barter or suggest share care with the local birthcentreeMW Clinicc because it's free they can see me for alternate visits, doesn't go down well with the political midwives in Melbourne so I keep it quiebirthcentree I refuse to get tangled up in the 'insurance debacle, women will have the choice of birthing at home regardless as far as I'm concerned. I do practice with back-up, all women book into a hospital in case transfer is required, I have a great network of alternative practitioners who work in collaborative practice with me I can refer at any given time to a lovely OB, who is always available as an ear if I need him. I don't feel the need for any other presence, but I do have an extremely competent apprentice who is nearly finished her direct entry mid we work very well together. I chose her because she sees Mid as a separate identity to nursing, has no fear of birth sees pregnancy/maternity care as a state of health wellbeing. I have worked in a group/team practice before whilst the guaranteed time off O/C was good that was the only thing that worked in it for me. I found it just wasn't my style of mid. The politics gave me the irrits there is always the power control crap that goes with groups that I have no time for. So you could practice perfectly well without the insurance, back up or midwifery team because you'd build your own quite quickly once out of the system. I do sympathise. Don't go for the supermarket option just yet, it sounds like it'd be a shame, their gain midwiferiess' loss. ? look at NZ.(much nicer than Aust in every way!!) ..I am going home tomorrow for 3 weeks as I do every year will check things out as I do every year ( but my children are here so my options are limited) . Would you like an update on what's happening there when I get back? Are you contracted to the hospital you are working for ? Please don't stop your contributions to the ozmid, I enjoy your posts things will get better, it's early days !! Kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au wump fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brenda, I know exactly what you mean about thinking in lines and circles! I think this is my big problem. I think in circles in the hospital setting which does not go down too well. As for why I am not attending homebirths. In the UK I attended homebirths funded by the NHS (medicare) and backed-up by the maternity system. I worked in a community team and we covered the on-call between 4 of us. I'm in Queensland now and things are a bit different. If I want to do homebirths I would have to be an independent mw. I don't feel that I know the system here well enough after only 9 months. Also I would have to practise without insurance or back-up or a midwifery team. The hospital setting is very frustrating and I plan to escape within 2 years. Not sure where - research, education. supermarket. Rachel From: brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today... Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:11:25 +1100 Rachel, Please don't 'shut up for now', as you know once you start 'not' saying things it becomes a habit that they never get said at all! Also I enjoy your posts ! I wonder why you aren't attending homebirths here if you enjoy then so much ? There is no money in it (not the way I practice anyway LOL) but if it's where your heart lies then you make do somehow. I work bank at the birth centre to feed the family homebirths in the community to feed my soul ! I totally agree with you, it requires a complete change of mindset when I work for myself. Work in the unit, (and I work in a very lovely liberal unit if you strretch the boundaries of the prescriptive policies )requires my brain to function in a straight line. Alot of it is damage control treating the symptoms which the system often causes. However in my practice my brain works in a circle (if you can understand the metaphor) focuses largely on preventing the problem occurring in the first place. ! Not sure I can explain it but that's how it feels ! With kind regards
[ozmidwifery] Apologies
Apologies for public posting a private email. Sorry, sorry , sorry... Brenda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Apologies
Actually, I found it very interesting to hear you talk about the differences etc. I agree with you about the cultural differences. Coming from convict (many Irish) background it is strange that we have become so passive in our attitude to choice in childbirth. Maybe that is the clue? The oppressed have never risen up against the masters. The English system of Consultants was our foundation and the consultants (GPs) became the masters and destroyed midwifery by their outright lies (blaming midwives for all complications) and deception. I know because my mother, great grandmother and great great grandmothers were midwives and witnessed it all. I do think that English women (and hence NZ women) are more politicized Keep up the good work. Homebirth midwifery is still alive and well in W.A. both publicly funded (150) and private (about 80)per year. We struggle against the same attitudes from public and medicos, but we endure. Cheers, MM Apologies for public posting a private email. Sorry, sorry , sorry... Brenda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] do you run a birth group?
Hi all, I'm just doing another whip round the country to see if there are any more consumer groups supporting home birth and/or natural birth who'd like to be included on the JB communities page? Email me if this is YOU! : ) J Joyous Birth Home Birth Forum - a world first!http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ Accessing Artemis Birth Trauma Recoveryhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...
Sorry Tania, I must have this reply to my email. I have concerns with the thinning or another layer of midwifery with Midwife Practitioner. To me a midwife is a midwife and a midwife. OK we can all develop other competencies but basically we should be able to care for birth women and their families as per ACMI definition of a midwife. This practitioner notion concerns me as it is a spin off from nursing. A shortage of medical staff results in nurses plugging up the gap such as ordering tests, medications and pathology etc. Surely we could have these added to our core education as modules. Here in Qld there is this push that only those that have Masters can be practitioners. I know graduate midwives coming out of Uni's are beginning midwives. Contrast that with midwives with experience who now will never be be to be called a Practitioner. Cairns has been accepted by Qld Health for a trial of Midwife Practitioner primarily for remote areas such as Palm Island. It is felt being a remote location they would be better serviced by a midwife ... (I don't know the rest as I say a midwife is a midwife ). Best to contact them direct for more information. I was at the ANF Conference in Darwin last week. Victorian midwives I can understand your frustration of ANF Victoria. Cows, cows and cows behave better. Their views on midwives are so entrenched. Basically there is an enhanced acknowledgement and understanding of midwifery and midwives that I did not see last time in Hobart. The first and only midwives problem was encountered with the second motion- A2. Inclusion of midwife and midwifery in the policies of the ANF | ANF New South Wales Branch That the 2005 ANF Biennial National Delegates Conference requests the inclusion of the word 'midwife' or 'midwifery' in the body of all appropriate ANF policies, guidelines, and position statements, instead of it being just a footnote. Moved: Seconded: Background Information Currently, all ANF policies carry the following stem statement which appears directly below the title of the policy: Where the term 'nurse' is used it includes all licensed classifications including, but not limited to: registered nurse, midwife, enrolled nurse, nurse practitioner. It is evident that the needs to conciliation work to be done between the ANF branches in Victoria and ACT with the ACMI branches. Their reasoning for voting against this resolution was unreasonable and obviously there is great discomfort with midwives in general in those two states. NSW Branch state secretary Brett Holmes gave a powerful address about the need for midwives and nurses to be working together and supporting each other as there is a lot to be learnt from the midwives and they (midwives) do not have the industrial strength to do it alone. He quoted what had happened in NZ with the NZNO having to get an agreement from the NZ Midwives organisation before the government would sign off the new agreement. He said in NZ they found it unwieldy and difficult to be negotiating from two fronts. He did not want the midwives to go out and form their own union. ANF is to be considered inclusive and if we do not include midwives it would be to our (ANF) detriment - or words to that effect. I will cut and paste this onto a new thread for ozmidwifery people. Cheers Barb Tania Smallwood wrote: Not just a question for Barb, but anyone who knows about it, I'm curious to know about the Midwife/nurse practitioner that you refer to in Qld. What exactly do they do? How is this different to working within the scope of a registered midwife? I'm aware that the college is not supportive of the notion of midwives becoming NP's, but I'm actually interested in what role they play in maternity care over and above the general run of the mill midwife? Cheers, Tania -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] ANF Midwife report
Title: Message Hi all, I returned from the ANF Biannual Conferencelast week. There was a good representation of midwives there but unfortunately we did not have a chance to really network as midwives. Perhaps next time we should get together in a break. It was an interesting conference. Basically there is an enhanced acknowledgement and understanding of midwifery and midwives that I did not see last time in Hobart. The first and only midwives problem was encountered with the second motion- A2. Inclusion of midwife and midwifery in the policies of the ANF | ANF New South Wales Branch That the 2005 ANF Biennial National Delegates Conference requests the inclusion of the word 'midwife' or 'midwifery' in the body of all appropriate ANF policies, guidelines, and position statements, instead of it being just a footnote. Moved:Seconded: Background Information Currently, all ANF policies carry the following stem statement which appears directly below the title of the policy: Where the term 'nurse' is used it includes all licensed classifications including, but not limited to: registered nurse, midwife, enrolled nurse, nurse practitioner. It is evident that the needs to conciliation work to be donebetween the ANF branches in Victoria and ACT with the ACMI branches. Their reasoning for voting against this resolution was unreasonable and obviously there is great discomfort with midwives in general in those two states. NSW Branch state secretary Brett Holmes gave a powerful address about the need for midwives and nurses to be working together and supporting each other as there is a lot to be learnt from the midwives and they (midwives) do not have the industrial strength to do it alone. He quoted what had happened in NZ with the NZNO having to get an agreement from the NZ Midwives organisation before the government would sign off the new agreement. He said in NZ they found it unwieldy and difficult to be negotiating from two fronts. He did not want the midwives to go out and form their own union. ANF is to be considered inclusive and if we do not include midwives it would be to our (ANF) detriment - or words to that effect. Midwives are included and valued within QNU branch of the ANF. Sandra Eeles, midwife from Mareeba joined the QNU Council this year and I am also on the executive of QNU Council.Aside it is opportune timingas Sandra is involved in the Mareeba midwife led birthing unit and next yearI will be involved with the Redcliffe-Caboolture trials of differing models of care- small team, caseload and centreing models of care. Cheers Barb
[ozmidwifery] todays advertsier
fyi latest from the advertiser... I wonder if the reference to 'anti-natal' classes was a freudian slip goddess forbid that women might seek a midwife when looking into choices of maternity care! jfairy *More help for pain relief births* By KARA PHILLIPS 31 October 2005 PREGNANT women who opt for epidurals are much more likely to need medical intervention during the birth, research shows. Those who have the pain-relieving injections have a 40 per cent higher risk of instruments such as forceps being used, the new international survey says. They also are more likely to have a longer second stage of labour, require drugs to stimulate contractions, experience dangerously low blood pressure and be unable to move for a time after birth. The findings come from the Cochrane Review, an independent database, based on 21 studies into the use of epidurals in labour, involving 6664 women worldwide. The study found epidurals relieve pain better than other types of medication but there is a 40 per cent higher risk of needing instruments to assist birth. There is no difference in Caesarean delivery rates, long-term backache or effects on the baby soon after birth compared with other forms of pain relief. Adelaide experts say pregnant women should be made aware choosing an epidural can put them at greater risk of such complications during labour. Anaesthetist Kym Osborn, at the Women's and Children's Hospital, however, says those risks are very small. He says 41 per cent of women giving birth at the Women's and Children's hospital choose an epidural, compared with 39 per cent a decade ago. It has always been the most popular method, Dr Osborn says. What is important is women know their choices - attending anti-natal classes and speaking with your GP should arm you with the knowledge to make the choice right for you. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI: News article for QLD maternity
Title: Message Fantastic there is our funding for North Lakes project!! We have been so pressured for several years in this Redcliffe-Caboolture district. Gold Coast Birth centre looks like it is now funded and even Beaudesert looks like it might have maternity services restored via Logan Hospital. Cheers Barb Extra $52m for maternity services From: AAP October 31, 2005 QUEENSLAND has announced an extra $52 million for maternity services in the state's public hospitals. Premier Peter Beattie said the Government would provide an extra $8.63 million for maternity services in 2005/06 and the same amount for each of the next five years to meet increasing demand. "On average about 100 babies are born in our public hospitals every day, which can also stretch maternity services in some areas," Mr Beattie said. "The $52 million funding boost starts immediately and is targeted to enable health districts to provide more maternity services and better access to them." The funding included recurrent allocations of $2.2 million a year to the Redcliffe-Caboolture district, $1.63 million to the Gold Coast, $1.5 million to the Bayside district based around Redcliffe hospital, and $1.5 million to the Logan-Beaudesert area.The money would provide additional beds, staff, equipment and support services.
