[ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Hi Mary, I have heard this said to women by some Dr's, however not all. Usual practice is to do gastric aspirate ear swab on baby and check temps for 48 hours. And many women do refuse antibiotics for themselves and their babies - with encouragement from their midwives :) Sadie - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Thanks Sadie, It is interesting that these procedures are being done when the woman is of unknown status because the guidelines from the Health dept say that Gastric aspirate and swabs only tell us about surface colonization. The majority of babies who are born to those women who are colonized are mostly not sick babies- 50-75% of babies are colonized but only 2% are infected. That is a lot of non symptomatic babies getting IMI antibiotics when they dont need them. Threatening to hurt their babies is an unethical way to get women to have a screening test. When will they learn to give accurate information to women so they can decide what tests they want? MM Hi Mary, I have heard this said to women by some Dr's, however not all. Usual practice is to do gastric aspirate ear swab on baby and check temps for 48 hours. And many women do refuse antibiotics for themselves and their babies - with encouragement from their midwives :) Sadie I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Dear Mary, If there are no high risk indications at time, we would monitor baby carefully ie regular temperatures and observation rather than straight into IM antibiotics. Barbara, Parkes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, 4 November 2005 8:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM
[ozmidwifery] Strep B
I have had 2 cases this year where a woman chose not to have the strep B swabs done antenatally. For whatever reason we transferred from home to the hospital for birthing. The staff wanted her to have antibiotics because the step B statis was unknown. Both times the mothers refused. Both times the hospitals then swabbed the babies, said something along the lines of 'we have found 'something' unknown that could be strep b" they then recommended commencing 48hours of IV antibiotics until blood cultures can prove otherwise( that it is not Strep B). Because of the fear involved, the mothers chose to have the IV antibiotics for the bubs. Blood cultures came back on both babies negative for strep B. Scary as it is, I relate this story to my clients and let them decide if they want the strep B swab or notguess what they choose?? Sad huh Robyn Dempsey
Re: [ozmidwifery] mackay midwives
Kirsten is off to Selangor Private in Nambour. Regards Fiona Rumble - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] mackay midwives Dear Fiona, Where is Kirsten going? RegardsAnne Clarke - Original Message - From: FIONA AND CRAIG RUMBLE To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:20 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] mackay midwives Did you know Kirsten Small (one of only two OBS)has resigned, leaving July? Great opportunity to highlight the need for more midwifery care and encouragement for the Birth Centre. I mentioned same to ABC reporter yesterday and a Doctor (my boss) poo hoo-ed me saying there were too many problems at the BC already. All the more reason to push forward Regards Fiona Rumble__ NOD32 1.1275 (20051103) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
[ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
HI, Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am I gave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days of crazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water, in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and two friends there. After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this was truly amazing!! I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
I was actually witness to a midwife (and I do use the term loosely in this instance) calling a young woman a selfish bitch for refusing to have antibiotics in labour, when she was of unknown GBS statusthis was 6 years ago at one of our centres of excellenceshame Tania From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, 4 November 2005 8:49 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening Thanks Sadie, It is interesting that these procedures are being done when the woman is of unknown status because the guidelines from the Health dept say that Gastric aspirate and swabs only tell us about surface colonization. The majority of babies who are born to those women who are colonized are mostly not sick babies- 50-75% of babies are colonized but only 2% are infected. That is a lot of non symptomatic babies getting IMI antibiotics when they dont need them. Threatening to hurt their babies is an unethical way to get women to have a screening test. When will they learn to give accurate information to women so they can decide what tests they want? MM Hi Mary, I have heard this said to women by some Dr's, however not all. Usual practice is to do gastric aspirate ear swab on baby and check temps for 48 hours. And many women do refuse antibiotics for themselves and their babies - with encouragement from their midwives :) Sadie I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Congratulations Abby. Love and prayers to you, your little one, and all the family. Job well done! Regards Fiona Rumble (Birth International workshop co-participant) HI,Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am Igave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days ofcrazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water,in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and twofriends there.After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this wastruly amazing!!I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!!Love Abby--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Blessings galore to you all, now go and get some sleep wonderwoman! Tania xxx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abby and Toby Sent: Friday, 4 November 2005 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement HI, Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am I gave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days of crazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water, in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and two friends there. After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this was truly amazing!! I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Many congrats Abby and family :) Love baby's name! Jayne HI, Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am I gave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days of crazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water, in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and two friends there. After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this was truly amazing!! I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info
To those people who sent cheques for the CARES SA Birth After Caesarean information booklet; Thanks and the CD's are in the post today so check you post boxes next week! Sorry for the delay. Those who still want a copy of the CD with HEAPS of information on VBAC, please send a cheque to CARES SA POBox 1013 Nairne SA 5252 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Abby, you know that I know just how wonderful you feel at this moment! I am SO very proud of you and cant wait to hear your birth story! Love Jo CARES -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Congratulations Abby, You did a wonderfull job. You are very strong to go on with what you feel is good. Big hug to all from the other site of the world. Lieve - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Abby and Toby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag, november 4, 2005 11:38 AM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement HI, Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am I gave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days of crazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water, in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and two friends there. After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this was truly amazing!! I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Here in Belgium is the same rule, with unknown status they start AB in labour. When labour goes to fast they will preventive give ab to the baby. Also with a positive test the mother has no choice and will have AB in labour. When the profylaxy is not compleet, the baby goes to neonatal ward and gets AB. A few weeks ago I had a discussion with a pediatrician. Mother laboured at home and wanted to give birth in hospital. Last visit the gyn told her she was pos on GBS and she would have AB in labour. She discussed it with the GP who is also homeopath and he said she could refuse the AB. She asked me in early labour and I said yes, you can, but then your baby will be under attack :-) I adviced her to call the pediatrician to ask for the protocols. I left them to decide what to do and went home. Within half an hour I had a very angry pediatrician on the line. She didn't want to discuss the thing but just to push her view on us. I told her that she could find the info I gave to the mother on their own website of obs and gyns. Her heaviest argument was that she studied in a university hospital (Leuven) and therefor she knew :-) The mother gave birth at home greetings Lieve - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Mary Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag, november 4, 2005 10:17 AM Aan: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the baby's screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you don't want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Here I go with links again :) : http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/group-b.html and some comments at: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0838/is_123/ai_114242270 Vedrana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:22 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening Here in Belgium is the same rule, with unknown status they start AB in labour. When labour goes to fast they will preventive give ab to the baby. Also with a positive test the mother has no choice and will have AB in labour. When the profylaxy is not compleet, the baby goes to neonatal ward and gets AB. A few weeks ago I had a discussion with a pediatrician. Mother laboured at home and wanted to give birth in hospital. Last visit the gyn told her she was pos on GBS and she would have AB in labour. She discussed it with the GP who is also homeopath and he said she could refuse the AB. She asked me in early labour and I said yes, you can, but then your baby will be under attack :-) I adviced her to call the pediatrician to ask for the protocols. I left them to decide what to do and went home. Within half an hour I had a very angry pediatrician on the line. She didn't want to discuss the thing but just to push her view on us. I told her that she could find the info I gave to the mother on their own website of obs and gyns. Her heaviest argument was that she studied in a university hospital (Leuven) and therefor she knew :-) The mother gave birth at home greetings Lieve - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Mary Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag, november 4, 2005 10:17 AM Aan: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the baby's screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you don't want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info
Could I please have the cost of CD and postage in order to post a cheque Monday for the CARES VBAC cd? Thankyou, Barbara, -Original Message- To those people who sent cheques for the CARES SA Birth After Caesarean information booklet; Thanks and the CD's are in the post today so check you post boxes next week! Sorry for the delay. Those who still want a copy of the CD with HEAPS of information on VBAC, please send a cheque to CARES SA POBox 1013 Nairne SA 5252 -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement
Fantastic and Congratulations Abby. Love to heare those so positive stories. Cheers Judy --- Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, Sorry for the x-post, but thought I would share that thismorning at 3:46am I gave birth to a beautiful little girl, Runah. After a couple of days of crazy prelabour and 5 hours of active labour she was birthed in warm water, in my own home, into my friends hands with just her daddy, mummy and two friends there. After having a very traumatic c-section with my first daughter, this was truly amazing!! I am sore, tired and truly EMPOWERED!! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info
Sorry Barbra, The cost is $15 for the CD including postage. Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Stokes Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:58 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info Could I please have the cost of CD and postage in order to post a cheque Monday for the CARES VBAC cd? Thankyou, Barbara, -Original Message- To those people who sent cheques for the CARES SA Birth After Caesarean information booklet; Thanks and the CD's are in the post today so check you post boxes next week! Sorry for the delay. Those who still want a copy of the CD with HEAPS of information on VBAC, please send a cheque to CARES SA POBox 1013 Nairne SA 5252 -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B
My daughter was GBS pos. Had IV antis in labour but the staff wanted her to stay in fir observation of bub. She was basically told the baby would die if she took her home. I said what rubbish. The last two places I have worked if mum was GBS pos, had had IV antis in labour ( at least 1 dose four hours before the birth) then apart from the odd temp check we just observed bub. Unknown status was only worried about if the membranes ruptured 24 hours. Then IV antis offered. Given that the swab isn't 100% accurate and mum be negative for the swab and colonise a day later why bother scaring women? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Robyn DempseySent: Friday, 4 November 2005 9:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B I have had 2 cases this year where a woman chose not to have the strep B swabs done antenatally. For whatever reason we transferred from home to the hospital for birthing. The staff wanted her to have antibiotics because the step B statis was unknown. Both times the mothers refused. Both times the hospitals then swabbed the babies, said something along the lines of 'we have found 'something' unknown that could be strep b" they then recommended commencing 48hours of IV antibiotics until blood cultures can prove otherwise( that it is not Strep B). Because of the fear involved, the mothers chose to have the IV antibiotics for the bubs. Blood cultures came back on both babies negative for strep B. Scary as it is, I relate this story to my clients and let them decide if they want the strep B swab or notguess what they choose?? Sad huh Robyn Dempsey
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B
Where I work no-one is swabbed. If a woman is in labour for twelve hours she is commenced on IV antis without knowing her GBS status. There are no other interventions, unless labour is premature, when a HVS will be taken. It's interesting the variety of practises out there! I would prefer to swab women pre labour, and then we could do away with the IV antibiotics. An IV, even onethat is bunged off,is a pest to maintain in labour. Nicole. PS I have not seen a baby with clinical obvious Grp B strep in 5 years. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ken WArdSent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:52 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B My daughter was GBS pos. Had IV antis in labour but the staff wanted her to stay in fir observation of bub. She was basically told the baby would die if she took her home. I said what rubbish. The last two places I have worked if mum was GBS pos, had had IV antis in labour ( at least 1 dose four hours before the birth) then apart from the odd temp check we just observed bub. Unknown status was only worried about if the membranes ruptured 24 hours. Then IV antis offered. Given that the swab isn't 100% accurate and mum be negative for the swab and colonise a day later why bother scaring women? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Robyn DempseySent: Friday, 4 November 2005 9:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B I have had 2 cases this year where a woman chose not to have the strep B swabs done antenatally. For whatever reason we transferred from home to the hospital for birthing. The staff wanted her to have antibiotics because the step B statis was unknown. Both times the mothers refused. Both times the hospitals then swabbed the babies, said something along the lines of 'we have found 'something' unknown that could be strep b" they then recommended commencing 48hours of IV antibiotics until blood cultures can prove otherwise( that it is not Strep B). Because of the fear involved, the mothers chose to have the IV antibiotics for the bubs. Blood cultures came back on both babies negative for strep B. Scary as it is, I relate this story to my clients and let them decide if they want the strep B swab or notguess what they choose?? Sad huh Robyn Dempsey
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B
It seems most hospitals offer IV antibiotic cover in labour if membranes have ruptured for over 18hrs whether GBS or not. This is a particular bug-bear of mine. Firstly this is often not 'offered' but women are basically told this is what will be done. Secondly when women have had 2 doses of AB in labour the baby still has to have hourly obs for four hours, then four hourly obs for 24hrs. By doing this we are saying that the baby remains at risk of infection. Surely we should not be giving the AB if we don't trust them to prevent infection. I can't believe the amount of obs done on babies and the ridiculous reasons they are done. Babies are woken up to have a full set of obs done for any old excuse. So far I have never picked up a problem with a baby by doing obs. It is usually the mother who notices something is not right. Perhaps we should be explaining to mothers what is normal and encouraging them to let us know about any concerns rather than upsetting their baby every x amount of hours to put a cold stethoscope on its chest and shove a thermomether under its armpit. Rachel From: Nicole Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:04:25 +1100 Where I work no-one is swabbed. If a woman is in labour for twelve hours she is commenced on IV antis without knowing her GBS status. There are no other interventions, unless labour is premature, when a HVS will be taken. It's interesting the variety of practises out there! I would prefer to swab women pre labour, and then we could do away with the IV antibiotics. An IV, even one that is bunged off, is a pest to maintain in labour. Nicole. PS I have not seen a baby with clinical obvious Grp B strep in 5 years. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken WArd Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:52 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B My daughter was GBS pos. Had IV antis in labour but the staff wanted her to stay in fir observation of bub. She was basically told the baby would die if she took her home. I said what rubbish. The last two places I have worked if mum was GBS pos, had had IV antis in labour ( at least 1 dose four hours before the birth) then apart from the odd temp check we just observed bub. Unknown status was only worried about if the membranes ruptured 24 hours. Then IV antis offered. Given that the swab isn't 100% accurate and mum be negative for the swab and colonise a day later why bother scaring women? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robyn Dempsey Sent: Friday, 4 November 2005 9:32 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B I have had 2 cases this year where a woman chose not to have the strep B swabs done antenatally. For whatever reason we transferred from home to the hospital for birthing. The staff wanted her to have antibiotics because the step B statis was unknown. Both times the mothers refused. Both times the hospitals then swabbed the babies, said something along the lines of 'we have found 'something' unknown that could be strep b they then recommended commencing 48hours of IV antibiotics until blood cultures can prove otherwise( that it is not Strep B). Because of the fear involved, the mothers chose to have the IV antibiotics for the bubs. Blood cultures came back on both babies negative for strep B. Scary as it is, I relate this story to my clients and let them decide if they want the strep B swab or notguess what they choose?? Sad huh Robyn Dempsey _ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] burping/winding
What do you wise women think about winding/burping babies. I am very aware that I am totally confusing women and providing them with information which conflicts with my colleagues. I would love to hear what information you give women about this subject. My standpoint at the moment (more than willing to change it) is that for most babies winding is unnecessary and if they fall asleep at the breast just leave them. Rather than sitting them up and jiggling them about = waking them up all over again etc. Other cultures do not wind/burp babies. Wind will find it's own way out. Please correct me - I would love to hear alternative theories. Rachel _ The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
