[ozmidwifery] quote of the week

2006-04-01 Thread Mary Murphy
"If I could wave my wand, our culture would be matriarchal...one of peace, of softness...where children are beloved, where women are revered and taken care of, where birth and mothering are honored and supported."— Raven Lang  Midwifery Today Issue 70”    Wish this was true.  It seems to me

RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread Mary Murphy
There is liquor mixed in the blood at a vaginal birth too.  Estimating/weighing blood loss is always going to be inaccurate. I have never seen anyone weight the abdominal packs after a C/S   Is this usual practice?  mm   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozm

Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread brendamanning
I think it's because all the liquor is measured in with the blood loss in the suction bottles at a C/S. It totals 1000mls but 50% of it is probably not blood, that is just the ETBL documented as total fluid loss. It's difficult/impossible to differentiate the blood from liquor/body fluid so

Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread Mh
Who is doing the caesars to get such a huge loss? The usual blood loss for uncomplicated c/s where I work is 3-400mls, I think that is pretty well par for the course. Monica - Original Message - From: "lyn lyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Fw:

[ozmidwifery] Afterpains

2006-04-01 Thread brendamanning
She wrote:  I don't know how long they lasted, but as soon as I passed a heap of bloody clots etc they instantly calmed to a tolerable period pain feeling.   That's the very reason the afterpains were so severe, your uterus needed to stop the bleeding that was resulting in the clots. It was p

RE: [ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains

2006-04-01 Thread Nicole Carver
Hi Lyn, Voltaren PR may have some impact, but the woman may not notice as I am sure after pains would still break through voltaren. A fast acting analgesic given pre feed may be more appropriate, as at other times there is no pain at all. Might be worth a chat with a pharmacist. However, I

RE: [ozmidwifery] c/s pph

2006-04-01 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
She said this in regards to amounts lost:   “hi I lost over 600mls each time with my first baby i had a blood transfusion i was so sick with my first with my second i was passing clots (tmi) as big as dinner plates huge… I was scared thanks for your replies” Best Regards, Kelly Zantey

[ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains

2006-04-01 Thread lyn lyn
Thanks Nicole and Megan for your responses.   Do you think that maybe voltaren pr would be of any help.   lyn    

[ozmidwifery] c/s pph

2006-04-01 Thread lyn lyn
oops sorry i should learn to proof read.  I meant 1000mls not 100mls as a standard blood loss with c/s lyn

Re: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains

2006-04-01 Thread Diane Gardner
Taking Arnica a week before Estimated due and continue taking it afterwards. It not only helps with after birth pains but promotes healing as well. A Naturopath will have it or some of the larger health food stores do also.   Diane G - Original Message - From: lyn lyn T

RE: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains

2006-04-01 Thread Megan & Larry
I had excrutiaiting after-pains with my fourth baby, 2hr spont waterbirth at home, I was in such agony it was almost unbearable, this was after the placenta had come away and before I had breastfed. I don't know how long they lasted, but as soon as I passed a heap of bloody clots etc they in

RE: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains

2006-04-01 Thread Nicole Carver
I have suffered with these pains, which can be as strong as labour pain, I'm sure mine was. The best thing I found was heating up a hot pack prior to starting to feed. Also taking a dose of soluble Panadeine at the same time. They only last two days or so. Nicole. -Original Message---

Fw: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread lyn lyn
I have heard that a standard 100mls is lost with every c/s.  How big was this womens pph.  Its strange (or typical)  how at a vaginal birth a women can loose 600mls and thats a considered pph but at a c/s 100mls is not.   Lyn   - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwife

[ozmidwifery] after birth pains

2006-04-01 Thread lyn lyn
Hi all   I am seeing a mother G4P3 now at 36 weeks who has asked me if there is anything she can do about after birth pains.  She had severe suffering after her last two and would like to avoid if possible.   Can they actually be avoided.  and if so could that mean that there is a risk tha

RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Thanks Sally-Anne, I will pose this to her and let you know J   Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com

Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread Sally-Anne Brown
Dear Kelly   Re PPH: It would be interesting to find out if this woman was induced or had active management in last 2 births. Her body may not repond well to the syntoIf she can get onto a good homeopath 'Ustilago Maidus' is excellent for prevention of pph but must have dosage dete

Re: [ozmidwifery] Article: Premmie Babies 'Bed Blocking'

2006-04-01 Thread Gloria Lemay
Wise words, Nicole.  We all have to look at the reality of medical costs that are skyrocketing and never-ending technology that we can buy but can't afford.  Gloria in Canada - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday

RE: [ozmidwifery] Article: Premmie Babies 'Bed Blocking'

2006-04-01 Thread Nicole Carver
How sad. A more valid point to discuss is the suffering that some of these babies go through, which should be weighed against chance of survival and later quality of life. There is a lot that is done to these babies to keep them alive, that must must be incredibly painful and distressing. Go

Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread G Lemay
Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote: Hello all,   A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies – 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a no

Re: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar

2006-04-01 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
" I told the doctor that it is not unusual for babies who are on breast milk often go for a week without passing a stool and was told "that is rubbish. They should go every couple of days". Then his experience in babies fed fully on breastmilk is pretty limited! Even though this ba

Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-04-01 Thread Melissa Singer
Maybe the thinking is should she have another large PPH there is already direct access to the uterus to clamp hemorrhaging vessels?  It seems Obs are always suggesting a C/S for one reason or another.  I think it is OK for her to say no,  there are protocols and procedures to follow for anyo

[ozmidwifery] Article: Premmie Babies 'Bed Blocking'

2006-04-01 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
This was apparently on Sky… makes you sick to the stomach…   Fury Over Baby Comments Updated: 14:38, Monday March 27, 2006 Doctors have provoked controversy by suggesting premature babies should not always be treated because they are "bed blocking". They said that in some cases, prem

Re: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar

2006-04-01 Thread G Lemay
Jane Wines wrote: Just stroke the baby’s anus with a thermometer – do not go into the anus – for a few minutes then watch out for the production. Only used for maternal anxiety for lack of stool – but better than adding foreign substances into babies gut.  Its like cats licking

RE: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar

2006-04-01 Thread Alan
Weight gain is good. Baby is settled between feeds and has no signs of discomfort when awake. Plenty wet nappies. Dr wanted to start coloxyl drops today (10 drops per feed) he has agreed to hold off until tomorrow. I have shown mum and other staff members leg exercises and abdo massage. I have aske