Re: [ozmidwifery] DEM's
I work in a private hospital casually in SA they allow me to work with the gyne patients and maternity patients. I also work at the women's and children's hospital in Adelaide and iam allowed to work with the neonatal patients in SCBU we cannot work in general wards unless we are registered nurses. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] DEM's We have been discussing restrictions on practice to Direct Entry Midwives can others tell us what the restrictions are state to state. I work in Qld and am restricted from working with gyne patients, others have said (Sadie) that in WA she is also restricted from working with gyne patients can others advise us what the situations are in NSW, SA, VIC, TAS, and NT? Thanks marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:23 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Interesting The Art of Midwifery After 30 years of assisting mothers in labor at home and in the hospital, I have found some techniques that help empower mothers when they are pushing. In the beginning and at the time of birthing it is very relaxing and easy for some mothers to be on their side. If side-lying pushing does not seem to bring progress, then an upright position, preferably a standing squat or kneeling squat, can work well. Birth in a squatting position seems to encourage rapid expulsion and tearing, so I ask mothers to lean back in a semi-recline for the actual birth. I do use gentle perineal support, usually with a warm cloth and oil as needed. But when different positions have been tried and the fetal head is unable to come under the pubic arch, I encourage the mother to lie flat on her back with just a pillow under her head. I help her bring her legs up with the soles of her feet together. I wrap a towel around her feet and have her grasp the ends of the towel and pull as she pushes. This motion brings her legs back and the position causes a widening of the outlet, even more than squatting. The mother's elbows should be out and one should resist the urge to raise her upper body because this action seems to make the push less effective. Coaching the mother to "push the baby down and then up to the ceiling" seems to help as well. This position has saved many of my mothers from a c-section. I try to suggest it after the mother has tried any positions she prefers and before she becomes exhausted. I explain that, while it may seem to be a strange position, it may shorten the time needed to push the baby out. At the time of serious crowning, the towel can be abandoned and the mother may assume any position desired. It makes me sad when I see current writings that caution women to refrain from lying on their backs at any time during labor. We all know why women are told this, but we also know there are exceptions to everything. By the way, this position works with or without regional anesthesia, for those practicing in hospital settings where anesthesia is common. Mary Jo Terrill, RN, BSN, MSWSanta Barbara, California
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid
hi all I have just got off the phone from a large nursing agency to be told that as a Bach mid grad they would not employ me as once again the hospitals concerned would not have us working in their wards. I was then told that I should have kept my enrolled nurse status and not registered as a midwife and then continued on to do a nursing degree. unfortunately this is not what I wanted to do like Tanya I wanted tobe a midwife not a nurse. is anyone else finding this in the eastern states that nursing agencies don't want to employ Bach of nursing grads their excuse to me was lame as the only wards which we would be sent to is mid and scbu. as far as I can see there is no difference in doing the nursing degree and then going to a agency to work with no experience as just doing the mid degree. again us Bach of midders are going to have to re educate the whole nursing profession.sharon - Original Message - From: Tania Laurie To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid Hi Kim I was interested in your comment about not being able to be relocated to other 'wards' - is that from your point of view or others'? I'm a current Bmidder at UniSA and in our first year, we did a 'general nursing' placement on a surgical wardto enhance confidence andskills in the areas of basic nursing (BP, TPR etc blah blah blah, changing dressings, catheters yadayada yada - you get the picture). When on mid placements, where some 'general' patients may also be, if 'mid' is quiet and I'm asked to care for these patients (even men), I'm more than happy to oblige. It can only enhance my knowledge and experience. As with yourself, I'm not anti-nurse, I just chose not to be one. I think if we are willing to do the extra bits to combat the myth that we can't do anything else, it can only help those who follow us and assist in changing the attitudes of those out there who are not so happy with the way mid education is going. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have to fight and argue so hard about our abilities and competence, but it's not an ideal world so I do the best I can with what I've got and take on just about anything! (within reason of course). Cheers Tania - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid Hello again Marcia and others interested in this thread. Thanks for your intro Marcia. It's always nice to knowwho you are talking to. I guess I have become a bit guardedregarding my midwifery qualification as it's been atorturous road to find a supportive environment in which to practice. I live rurally - Gippsland to be precise. DE midwives are virtually unheard of in the rural areas and many are at a lossas to 'what to do with us' since we can't be relocated to otherwards - despite screaming out for midwifery staff. Some, like anything new, are veryresistant to change - mostly their own insecurities from what I can make out. Anyway, I arrived in Australia 18mths ago and applied at two hospitals for work - both turned me down because 1. I could not be relocated and 2. because they were 'too busy' training medical staff. I was also told that "I needed serious career advice if I thought I would ever be able to work in this country". That was from one individual but someone in a position who should have known better!!! You can imagine how that felt being a new, very enthusiastic graduate who had just sacrificed everything (family financesincluded)to survive the 3 year 'full-on' degree!! It was soul destroying to say the least and I now fully understand the term 'horizontal violence'! Fortunately for me - it just made me stronger and more determined! Why does this profession 'eat their young' instead of nuture them? I thought as midwives and as women - we were the nuturing types? I know this is not true of all but the few that are like this leave a very bad taste in my mouth. Anyway... Since my 'failed applications', I hadbeen working in the community 'with woman'the best way possible in the current environment but have just recently taken up an offer at one of the hospitals previously mentioned. It is funny how things eventually have an about turn and how midwifery shortagesdon't change. It seemed they were impressedby mywork in the community and my dedication
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid
hi Sadie as a de midwife iam employed by aprivate hospital ( as well as a large hospital for women here in sa. We are also not allowed to relieve for meal breaks ect or allowed to work in any other areas except for mid/ neonatal as the registration does not allow this. There is a bridging course for anyone who wants to do this. One year. At the small private hospital iam on their casual pool if there are no mid patients then I don't get any work (which has been the case for the last two weeks) iam at present waiting for my GMP to start , at the women's hospital so I can get regular work. regards. - Original Message - From: Sadie To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid Hi Tania, I am a direct entry midwife trained in the UK which is the same as your BMid course. I work in Perth, and even though I was an auxiliary nurse before training (no certification), I am not insured to do 'adult nursing' - that means I cannot relieve for meal breaks in emergency or work shifts in gynae or adult special care. It isn't because I don't want to, my WA registration forbids it. You need to be sure your registration and hospital is actually covering you for any tasks you perform outside your midwifery practice. There are 50 direct entry trained midwives here, and this applies to all of us. I also did 'general' placements in my 3 year training course, but that does not give you an RN certification. Cheers, Sadie - Original Message - From: Tania Laurie To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid Hi Kim I was interested in your comment about not being able to be relocated to other 'wards' - is that from your point of view or others'? I'm a current Bmidder at UniSA and in our first year, we did a 'general nursing' placement on a surgical wardto enhance confidence andskills in the areas of basic nursing (BP, TPR etc blah blah blah, changing dressings, catheters yadayada yada - you get the picture). When on mid placements, where some 'general' patients may also be, if 'mid' is quiet and I'm asked to care for these patients (even men), I'm more than happy to oblige. It can only enhance my knowledge and experience. As with yourself, I'm not anti-nurse, I just chose not to be one. I think if we are willing to do the extra bits to combat the myth that we can't do anything else, it can only help those who follow us and assist in changing the attitudes of those out there who are not so happy with the way mid education is going. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have to fight and argue so hard about our abilities and competence, but it's not an ideal world so I do the best I can with what I've got and take on just about anything! (within reason of course). Cheers Tania - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Bach Mid Hello again Marcia and others interested in this thread. Thanks for your intro Marcia. It's always nice to knowwho you are talking to. I guess I have become a bit guardedregarding my midwifery qualification as it's been atorturous road to find a supportive environment in which to practice. I live rurally - Gippsland to be precise. DE midwives are virtually unheard of in the rural areas and many are at a lossas to 'what to do with us' since we can't be relocated to otherwards - despite screaming out for midwifery staff. Some, like anything new, are veryresistant to change - mostly their own insecurities from what I can make out. Anyway, I arrived in Australia 18mths ago and applied at two hospitals for work - both turned me down because 1. I could not be relocated and 2. because they were 'too busy' training medical staff. I was also told that "I needed serious career advice if I thought I would ever be able to work in this country". That was from one individual but someone in a position who should have known better!!! You can imagine how that felt being a new, very enthusiastic graduate who had just sacrificed everything (family financesincluded)to survive the 3 year 'full-on' degree!! It was soul destroying to say the least and I now fully understand the term 'horizontal
[ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
thanks for that I will look on the website. not enough information is given to women when an epidural is offered. thankfully I had my second child with no pain relief whatsoever which was a more natural and positive experience for me. - Original Message - From: Megan and Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon An Osteopath told me that without prior knowledge she could tell if and where someone had been given an epidural and in the long term time frame you are talking of. I find that amazing and alarming. After my 4mth old had a lumbar puncture I had him treated by an Osteopath and she said she could feel the difference clearly in the areas below and above the sight. Hopefully for him treating it early will be enough. It might be worth contacting the Osteopathic association to see if they have any information that you can use. They have a website or try the phonebook. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaz42 Sent: Monday, 14 February 2005 8:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list
Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP
all bmid graduates of the uni sa underdale group have employement either inpublic or private hospitals here in South australia. there were originally 25 which started and 10 finished the 3 year course drop outs were through pregnancy or faliure but of those who falied they have all continued with the course and should finish this year. - Original Message - From: Joy Cocks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP Hi Marcia, My daughter has just completed her Bmid and is commencing a fulltime position at Box Hill next month. As far as I know most, if not all, of her contemporaries have had job offers. Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 14:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] B/MID FOLLOW UP I would like to hear from anyone currently involved in follow -up of our first graduates of the Bachelor of Midwifery . Have all who applied for employment for 2005 been successful? thanks Marcia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role
Kirsten as a newly qualified midwife who has supported women during birth when a student I wish you luck. You need to be very strong for both the woman and her partner in what she wants to get out of her birth. I suggest that when you are with the woman and her partner during the birth you act as her advocate and speak up for her but at the same time ensure that both the wom,an and the unborn baby are not in any danger from what you are suggesting. A woman will adopt a position which she feels comfortable and safe in. There are ways around monitoring such as intermittent monitoring of the fetus using Doppler or using the telemetric ctg instead of forcing the woman to lay on the bed. Good luck with your role as support person. You could try reading some of the birthing books that women read to find out positions act or speak to the midwives at the clinic when you attend with the woman they are a invaluable source of information. Enjoy your time as a student - Original Message - From: Kirsten Wohlt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role Hi all, As a 2nd year BMid student with very limited experience of being present at births, I wonder if I may ask for some tips on how to support women in labour. I have attended only 3 births, and have contributed to some degree by being there to hold a woman's hand or bring her ice or a cool cloth, or speak an encouraging word - very much been working on the 'less is more' basis and being a quiet support presence. I have one woman now who is planning a VBAC and has some specific requests regarding my support role, but I don't know where to start, and I don't want to go in there feeling nervous and tense! Her first birth was long and painful, ending in an emergency c-section following a 'failed' induction. She remembers essentially lying in the bed the whole time, not walking around, and having several doses of pethadine. This time she wants to stay active and upright and would rather have limited/no drugs. She says that she knows she will not want to walk once she is in labour and wants her husband and I to be strong and 'make' her. She also wants me to think about ways to encourage her, or positions that may help. I don't have any idea how to start...any pointers? Articles, texts, experience? I will do web research and look through my uni texts, but I know there will be an awful lot out there - some pointers which will help refine the search would be really appreciated. Many thanks, Kirsten -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role - thank you!
enjoy your status as a student kirsten good luck - Original Message - From: Kirsten Wohlt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role - thank you! Thanks very much to those who responded to my cry for help :) You have sent me some very valuable advice, for which I am grateful. Now to put it into practice - can't wait!! Thanks again, K -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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hi i don't know if anyone is interested but one of my continuity ladies husband is making chairs for babies which are made out of wood and sit on the table so baby can join in during meal times also. they are sturdy and well made and would make a great present for anyone who has recently given birth. I have a email address if anyone is interested in purchasing one. regards sharon
Re: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour
at wch post natal ward the obs are 4/24 for the first day then bd if all is ok then daily. in labour it is protocol to do fhr very 15 min, temp 4/24, bp 1/2 hly, pulse 15 min and contractions every1/2 hr and mark on the partogram. - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: OZMIDWIFERY Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:05 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour Dear All, Talking about observations. Please take time to reply to this query. What observations - how often, what type of observations e.g. temp, pulse, BP, FHR, PV assessment etc.do you do routinely on a normally progressing singleton labour? With thanks, Anne Clarke
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife in TV drama
hi caught the show on sat nght in adelaide was very good encourge all to watch regards sharon - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife in TV drama This is a brilliant show - I have seen a number of episodes in the UK. The midwife does home births, water births and even has a still birth at home - all as part of her routine job. Pity it is on commercial TV, but I guess that means a potentially larger audience, so in terms of childbirth education that is also good news! Happy watching. Andrea At 11:18 AM 5/12/2004, you wrote: Earlier in the year someone mentioned a UK show called William and Mary, he's an undertaker and she's a MIDWIFE! Well by accident I watched the end half of it last night (Sat) on ch7 at 8.30pm. I think it was the first one, so tune in next week. Might even be worth dropping ch7 a line to say good on them, so it stays on the air. cheers Megan This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas
hi kate as a mid student i looked after a stillbirth so my heart goes out to you, all you can do is talk with the woman and use all your skills of empathy and understanding. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Kate /or Nick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas Hi I'm a first year BMid. A little over a month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any other ideas. We've talked about: ¯photos ¯foot, hand lip prints ¯hair nail clippings ¯body tracing ¯hospital bracelets cot name cards cord clamps tape measure blanket clothing anything that has come into contact with the babies memory box Any other ideas would be gratefully received. Kate
Re: [ozmidwifery] Rhogam discussion
hi what is rhogam? and why is it used could some one tell me. thanks sharon - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Rhogam discussion I thought this would interest you, according to the latest discussion on Rhogam. You can find the original in the Midwifery Today E- news: www.midwiferytoday.com greetings Lieve Effects of Mercury Administered during Pregnancy A reader named "Donna" contacted Midwifery Today E-News with an informal study she conducted of mothers who were "injected" with mercury while pregnant. She started with her own story: I had RhoGAM when I was six months pregnant. My son has progressive microcephaly, CP, lennox gastaut (severe seizures), is nonverbal and profoundly mentally retarded. I had his six-month-old baby hair tested for mercury; the results showed 13.78 mcg. The only exposure to mercury was from my RhoGAM and his vaccines. A new study of amount of heavy metals in vaccines showed one that contained nine times more aluminum. There is no telling how much mercury was in the RhoGAM injections I had. The older RhoGAM contained 35 mcg of mercury. We are told to limit "ingesting" mercury to 0.1 mcg. What should the number be for "injecting" it? Janet: RhoGAM during pregnancy; her child is 21 and has ADD and a learning disability. She had RhoGAM during one of her other pregnancies but doesn't know which one; one child has ADD and the other child has Down syndrome. Kris O.: RhoGAM during pregnancy; has a child with deafness, autism, developmental delays, mild CP. Norma W.: Had RhoGAM during pregnancy; has a disabled child [type unknown]. Colleen F.: Flu shot during pregnancy; son has CP and bipolar disorder. Gracie M.: RhoGAM during pregnancy; did not vaccinate son. Boy developed severe eczema at four months old, has lots of allergies, a yeast overgrowth and a depressed immune system. Kathy G.: RhoGAM during pregnancy; has a four-year-old daughter with angelman syndrome. Barbara W.: RhoGAM during pregnancy; has 10-year-old child with angelman syndrome. Kathy: RhoGAM injection with all three kids; all three have angelman syndrome. Ilana S.: Sister had flu vaccine during pregnancy; she has a daughter with Retts. Her hair was tested for mercury; results were 14.8. She also has a friend who had a RhoGAM injection during pregnancy and lost the child a month later. Julia A.: Flu vaccine during pregnancy; daughter diagnosed with petiventricular leukomalacia (a type of brain damage). Lauree L.: RhoGAM during pregnancy; child is developmentally delayed, in a special-education class with one-on-one aide. Lennox Gastaut syndrome. Anon: Four children; had a RhoGAM injection both during and after pregnancy. My oldest son is now 16; he is a very well behaved child and does well in school. However, he has ADD and is on medication. My second child has some major psych/neuro issues; although his IQ is 129, his behavior is horrible and he is on major psych-neuro drugs and has been in and out of institutions and under the care of doctors for several years. My third child is normal. My fourth child has Rett syndrome confirmed at Baylor through the MECP DNA test last year. Prior to this, her doctors thought she had CP. She has seizures, she does not walk or talk, she is now 10-1/2 and functions at the three-month-old level. My first child is by one husband, my second a different husband and the third is my present husband's. So while they all have neuro issues, the gene pool is different. It makes you wonder if an exterior factor such as thimerosol accounts for these kinds of outcomes. Lisa T: I have had seven pregnancies; one was a miscarriage. 1981 at age 15 got RhoGAM shot during pregnancy; daughter was born with severe learning disabilities and ADD. RhoGAM after birth. 1985, RhoGAM shot after birth, son has ADHD and ODD, depression (bipolar?). 1988, miscarriage with RhoGAM given after. 1990, daughter with ADD and mild deafness, RhoGAM after birth. 1996, daughter with possible ADD, RhoGAM after birth. 1998, daughter with possible ADD, RhoGAM after birth. 2001, daughter with angelman syndrome, had flu shot in 2000 and got pregnant about one week later; had RhoGAM during pregnancy and after birth. Eve: RhoGAM during pregnancy, has 12-year-old girl with Quad CP. Jamie B.: RhoGAM during all of her pregnancies; first son has learning disabilities (severe CAPD and PDD nos); second, a daughter, is dyslexic; third, a son, has ADHD. At a DAN! conference 53.7% of the mothers present who had ASD children were Rh negative. Other studies show 37% of ASD children have
Re: [ozmidwifery] Todays West
maybe the docs here in adelaide should read this paper as the QEH is fighting to open a midwifery lead service to women in the western suburbs. that would help their cause no end. cheers sharon - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Todays "West" Dear All Mary informs us of the great story on page 11 of todays West Australian (17/11/04) "MP's reccommend midwifery boost. The Upper House committee said there was considerable evidence to support the expansion of access... (to midwifery led services) that Mr McGinty should increase the number of funded places in the Community Midwifery Program" It is worth a read and it would be good to read the full report which was tabled in parliament yesterday. Cheers, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Postnatal Observations
Iam currently on the postnatal ward at the wch in adelaide and the postnatal obs they do there are 4/24 for the first 24 hours then bd then daily of tpr and bp followed by ususal postnatal checks of the woman. you can find the protocol under the s a governements protocol. - Original Message - From: Melanie Jane Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Postnatal Observations Hello Everyone Wondering If I can tap into your minds of wisdom. We are currently fighting with a registrar at work regarding post natal observations. At present if a woman has had a normal vaginal birth with no complications either antenatally or during the birth we do not routinely take BP, P or Temps. The registrar does not quite like this idea and is trying to change our practice as she feels that things might be missed and that birth has a huge impact on a woman's health. We have argued the point that these women are well women and that if they feel unwell we would then take observations. I guess I am wondering what the practice elsewhere is and if there is any evidence to support our practice Thanks Melanie Dunstan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] B(Mid) course not for Southern Cross 2005
hi and thanks for the message of support as a graduating bach mid student i have been supported well by the majority of midwives which i have been working with in the health care system but now is the telling time i am not an RN but an EN and the ammount of students who are finishing the course here in SA will not all be able to get jobs as there are not enough places for everyone in GMP's and unfortunately most of the hospitals here require you to do a GMP before employment as a midwife. the past 3 years have been fulfilling and fantastic through my many expereices with women and their partners( and others). i praise the mid lecturers who have been involved with us through our three years and giving us encouragement and support during the whole time to see us succeed and grow within our selves. sharon heath - Original Message - From: Jen Semple [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] B(Mid) course not for Southern Cross 2005 Thank YOU for your support, Jo :o) Jen --- Dean Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I am any expert or have insider information on this topic, but I can say that I have heard from some students who have had issues with the number of catches required in the three year course and the issues with follow thrus. Everyone should understand that there is always a period of seeing if things work and to highlight problems. My hat is off to all students graduating this years as the pressures on you lot are huge. Thanks to all students! Know there is a heap of support for you all! From Jo Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals
what a shame women deciding even before they have come into labour wanting epidurals. These women must be unsure of what thier own bodies can do. Not to mention the fact that they have no faith in the support persons such as the midwife. there is a lot for the case of continuity of care and carer roll on more community based midwifery practices where women are empowered and have faith in what nature decided they should be able to do. sharon heath mid student 3rd year.UNISA - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals This concept of control is one which really interests me, and has done for some time now... How often do we hear women saying things like "I needed an epidural because I was getting out of control" or "I don't want to be out of control so I'm having an epidural"? Seems a bit of an oxymoron to me, that the one thing (an epidural, anaesthetising you from the waist down) that is sure to take away any control you might have over your body, and quite possibly your birth, is the thing many women (and many care providers too) perceive as offering them that control...hmm, what does that say about true informed consent, and women and care providers attitudes towards pain, what it means, and how to deal with it? I'm not saying for a minute that women should be denied pain relief if that's what they choose. I just think that we should think very carefully before presenting pain relief as a tool to help a woman maintain or regain control. To me, awoman huffing, panting, shrieking, moaning, grasping to those around her, doesn't representsomeone who is out of control, or that needs to be rescued. If that woman chooses an epidural, and is aware of the potential risks etc, then all power to her. But I won't be presenting it to her in the 'menu' of pain relief (thanks Nicky Leap) as something that will help her regain control. Food for thought Tania - Original Message - From: Nicole Cousins To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals Im not sure what the big deal is. If a woman decides that she would like an epidural before an induction is started why shouldn't she have it. Are we not here to surpport women in there wishes and if their wish is for a pain free labour shouldn't we try to do that for them. Not everyone is the same and should we not try to meet everyones needs. And a PCA during labour, what a great idea if thats what she wants, then she is than incontrol of her own pain relief. Women in control of their of their labour and their needs. Nicole - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals This isterrible. What next!"Would you like to come in at 35 weeks because I'm going on a golf convention and my colleague is fully booked with inductions, epidurals and post-partum haemorrhagesfor the next 3 months!! Makes you wonder doesn't it! Kim. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/11/2004 3:34:27 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals Larissa thats exactly the same reason as the Ob stated up here, not once, but to many woman i saw him with. "The anaesthetist isn't always available or at work on certain days, so if you go into labour naturally you won't be guaranteed any pain relief BUT if we induce you on Monday when hes available and give you an epidural at the same time, you will get the pain relief and won't have to worry about going into labour when hes not on. What the OB said to MANY woman.I was nearly sick. Kirsten Darwin ...~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: "Larissa Inns" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals I just looked after a womanwho had one (epidural) booked prior to induction - reason given was that "the anaesthetist
