the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim.
regards sharon
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You may also find the leaflets at
http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument
helpful the professionals version is fully referenced .
Cheers,
David
----- Original Message ----- From: "Miriam Hannay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM
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Hi Sharon,

there is a great article with references titled
'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby'  by NZ
trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international
website available at
www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really
compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women
and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting
stuff. regards, miriam

 --- Mary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I
> have a question.  what happens to the data when
> things DO go wrong with an epidural?  I have two
> homebirth clients in the past couple of years who
> needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for
> PE & one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who
> seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic
> dept of our major teaching hospital.  The one who
> was induced for PE had an "epidural headache" for 11
> days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at
> a blood patch.  She was unable to breastfeed, pick
> up her baby, do any mothering at all.  It finally
> resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck.
> This was necessary for more than 6 months after the
> baby was born.  Of course post-natal depression was
> also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary
> medicine, no interest from the hospital.  The
> anaesthetists were not really interested in her once
> she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on
> Tramol.  No follow-up.  The APH (mother of 3) was
> left with severe "foot-drop", the story of the
> anaesthetists interest was the same for the above.
> She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating
> for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a
> lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or
> followed-up.  MM
>
>   I was  wondering is there anything to suggest that
> epidurals administered during labour have long term
> effects on women. such as backpain later in life  I
> would be interested to find this out through studies
> ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant
> find anything to do with this.
>
>   regards  sharon

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