RE: [ozmidwifery] fertility problems
Another vote of confidence in Devora Lieberman. She investigated our recurrent miscarriage issues and we found her excellent. Nicola Morley Doula NSW Central Coast -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:05 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fertility problems If her Dr is not communicating well I would really suggest she get a second opinion. There are fertility specialists out there who are genuinely caring and good Drs all at the same time. Graeme Hughes is wonderful, Devora Leiberman is also excellent. At 9:48 AM +0300 9/5/06, Päivi Laukkanen wrote: Thanks everyone for your help with the fertility issue. I received this thorough explanation from Rebecca and forwarded all your answers to my friend. She was very happy and relieved. She said it helps her a lot, that someone actually explaines what all these procedures are for. She says the doctor didn't even look at her or listen her at all. Now I now a bit more myself too. So, thank you. Päivi Hi Paivi, I am replying to you off the ozmid list, but please feel free to share this post. I have 20 years experience as a natural family planning (NFP) teacher, and would have to say that your friend is being offered the usual range of investigations, and they are quite reasonable options, especially in light of her history of an ectopic pregnancy (outside the womb, usually in the tube). Even if the tube has been saved, an ectopic can really wreak havoc on the reproductive organs, especially if the pregnancy was treated surgically. bloodsamples for ovulation; This is just a normal blood test that is mostly used to check her hormone levels are healthy at different times of her cycle. It can be used to indicate if she is ovulating (releasing eggs), which you could safely assume she is seeing as she was pregnant! take x-ray, where they spray the womb with some special color, which then shows in the x-rays. As Jo said, this is called a HSG and they use a special (blue!) dye to fill the cavity of the uterus. It should then flow up into and through the tubes and out into the pelvis if all is well. It will show if the size and shape of the uterus is healthy for pregnancy (maybe the last baby implanted in the tube because there is a problem in the uterus) and it will show if her tubes are healthy, free and clear (maybe the last baby didn't make it into the uterus because there is a problem in the tubes). They can sometimes push the dye through the tubes pretty hard, which can be a good thing as it can 'unblock' them and sort of 'clean them out' a bit, but of course it can't 'unblock' scar tissue. Many women report conceiving in the couple of months after a HSG and think it has a theraputic value, but there is no research to support this and it really is a diagnosic tool. It can be a very painful proceedure at the beginning (to dilate the cervix a little to allow the instrume! nts through) but the rest of the proceedure is not usually painful but might can sometimes be a little uncomfortable. Sedation is usually used, and it is often done under a general anesthetic with other proceedures (see below!). Afterward, there can be a little crampy feeling, but usually there is not much at all. some kind of operation to see the scar from the previous unsuccesful pregnancy. This would be a laparoscopy (or a lap), where they put instruments through the abdomen to actually look directly at her uterus, tubes and ovaries. This is a visual inspection of her anatomy, and will reveal the extent of any scar tissue, adhesions and the like from the ectopic. This is done under anesthetic as a day proceedure. The 'big cut' from this proceedure is about 1-2cm, along with a couple of 'puncture marks' that are very small. I don't think they even stitch any of these any more... they usually don't even scar. Afterward the tummy can be a bit tender, and you can get a very nasty pain up under the left shoulder blade (they fill the belly full of gas to separate the organs and see them better, and if this gas is slow to be absorbed by the body a 'pocket' of gas will collect and irritate, and the pain is felt in the left shoulder. It can be very intense pain - I actually needed pethidine!) They would also scrape the womb and take some samples to see if her body is doing what it's supposed to. This is called a dilation currettage, or a DC. The dilation refers to the cervix, again this is a small dilation required to allow instruments to be passed into the uterus, and a currettage is a spoon-like instrument attached to suction that would actually 'scrape' away some of the surface lining of the uterus (which she would have shed at her next period). This is sent to patholgy for anaysis, and reveals all kinds of details about her hormone levels and reproductive health. There may be a little spotting for a couple
RE: [ozmidwifery] the doula the midwife
Title: Message Hi Kristen, I am a doula, not a midwife :) And not a vastly experienced one (3 births so far). In my experience, all the midwives I have worked with have been really good. I haven't had a bad experience.I have found I have learned a gallon from the midwives I have worked with - both in terms of ideas for supporting women in labour, and I have also seen some great advocating for women from midwives when doctors are pushing for medical intervention and learned a lot from how they handled it. I believe to truly support the woman we all need to work together - getting anyone offside or anyone's back up is not going to get the woman the kind of birth she wants. Feedback I have had from midwives I have worked with has been very positive. When it comes to women in labour making choices that may not have been in their birth plan, I see my role as helping the midwife explain the options by repeating them in non medical language, or sometimes just a different phrasing can help a woman grasp what the options are or why certain questions are being asked. I say go in with a positive attitude and respect for the midwife, and you will probably have a fantastic experience. Nicola Morley Doula -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:10 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] the doula the midwife Hi all, I will be attending my first birth in May as a doula. I am very excited to say the least. I have heard different stories re the relationships between midwives and doulas, and was hoping the midwives can shed some light on the situation for me. Any tips for the doula-midwife thingto make this birth experience as positive as possible would also be welcomed!!Thanks! Kristin-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Sexual Assault
Title: Message Hi Kelly, I supported a sexual abuse survivor in labour just a few days ago. The biggest issue with this woman was VEs and we worked with the hospital staff to keep them to an absolute minimum and made sure they were not done by a male doctor. The best climate for her would have been the low intervention birth unit (where VEs are not done routinely) but unfortuntaely her waters broke and were moderately meconium stained so she was transferred to the hospital, then due to sudden drop of baby's heartrate she ended up with an emergency caesar which was very traumatic for her as everything was totally out of her control. She had a lot of fears regarding vaginal birth and the sensations and associated strong negative feelings it might arouse for her. These fears were possibly responsible for very slow progress of early labour leading to distressed baby, etc, although the baby is still in speciall care nursery with some heart issues so quite possibly the heart rate issues in labour are part of that. Some websites which were shared with me which are helpful: http://www.gentlebirth.org/Midwife/abuselbr.html http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/abuse2002.htm http://www.dvirc.org.au/HelpHub/PregnancySexualAbuse.htm Breastfeeding is also causing issues for her for the same reasons of previous abuse. I think she would cope OK if he just latched on and sucked, but he is struggling with latching on and not showing much interest and she can't cope with all the nuzzling. HTH Nicola Morley Doula (hooray - that was my final qualifying birth, so I am officially no longer and "trainee"!) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Sexual Assault Just wondering if anyone has any tips on working with women who have been involved with sexual assault? Loaded birth she also lost her mother recently so trying to get lots of tips and suggestions shes feeling fearful of interventions and is due soon. The hospital recommended she get extra support so she contacted me. Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains
Title: Message Thanks Katrina. I would like to reply to you off list, but your email doesn't seem to have come through with the group email. Can you drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Nicola Nicola MorleyEditor - Scripture PlusBaptist Union of NSW ACTPrivate Bag 8, Glebe, NSW, 2037Australia - 2 - 43290597 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri KatrinaSent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:33 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth painsHi NicolaWho are you seeing for your care??? The main thing to remember is to discuss all your wishes with the midwife on the day. If the midwife is aware of what your wishes are they can facilitate it better. From memeory (it has been a few months since I was in birthing suite) you have up to an hour for the placenta to come when using physiologically...this does lessen though if there is copious amounts of blood loss and you are symptomatic of having a PPH. As far as I know all of us in birthing suite facilitate skin to skin contact after birth, and encourage the baby to feed etc before anything is attended such as the weighing of the baby. We all like the baby to have a beautiful cuddle with mum. As for cord clamping, again, if the midwife is aware, she can facilitate the delayed clamping of the cord. From what I have seen, the physiological 3rd stage is no less painful than when having synto. I find it is the individual woman, and how she tolerates the pain in general. Some find it more painful, others find it a pleasureble sensation as there are no bones in the placenta and it expells easily. Some have a one huge contraction then the placenta births, then they have mild period pain. Most of them say it was nothing compared to the labour.Hope that helps...and if you have any other queries let me know.KatrinaOn 02/04/2006, at 8:05 PM, Nicola Morley wrote: This reminds me of a question I have after being a doula at a birth with a physiological 3rd stage. The mother in question chose physiological and found 3rd stagefar more painful than she had with 2 previously managed (synto) 3rd stages. So painful that she felt she couldn't hold her baby safely(apart from a brief cuddle in the moments following birth). They also only gave her 1/2 hour to deliver placenta physiologically, so she felt pressure to try and breastfeed before her and baby were really ready to try and get things moving. I have a couple of questions, partly "professional" for my future reference, and partly personal because I am considering options for my own birth! Is it normal for third stage to be more painful if done physiologically? Is it normal to set a time limit of 1/2 hour (this was at a low intervention, low risk only hospital - Wyong, whereas I am delivering at the more interventionalist Gosford so imagine it could be even less??? Anyone know who works at either of these hospitals?)? Early skin to skin contact with my baby, and time to allow baby to self attach to the breast are both more important to me than a physiological 3rd stage, so if choosing that option is a risk to either of those things I would prefer they gave me the synto (after waiting for cord to stop pulsing before clamping and cutting)!! Also, I didn't think to ask at the time, but what is the plan if the 1/2 hour is up and the placenta is not delivered? Can you give synto then, or is it too late and there are other things that need to be done? I am just thinking that if there is no problem delaying the synto, can anyone think of any good reason why I couldn't ask for a physiological 3rd stage, then if it was taking too long, or was too painful to hold baby, or I was being rushed to feed to get things moving, I couldn't just say, ok give me the synto then?? Nicola Trainee Doula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:01 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains Hi Lyn I don't know if this woman had actively managed or physiological 3rd stage with her first 2 but I know of one (now grand) multip whose 2nd birth I attended - she suffered dreadfully with after pains in all hosp births but has had the last couple at home with physiological 3rd stages and told me that the after pains have not been a problem . Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message -From: lyn lyn To: ozmidwifer
RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains
Title: Message This reminds me of a question I have after being a doula at a birth with a physiological 3rd stage. The mother in question chose physiological and found 3rd stagefar more painful than she had with 2 previously managed (synto) 3rd stages. So painful that she felt she couldn't hold her baby safely(apart from a brief cuddle in the moments following birth). They also only gave her 1/2 hour to deliver placenta physiologically, so she felt pressure to try and breastfeed before her and baby were really ready to try and get things moving. I have a couple of questions, partly "professional" for my future reference, and partly personal because I am considering options for my own birth! Is it normal for third stage to be more painful if done physiologically? Is it normal to set a time limit of 1/2 hour (this was at a low intervention, low risk only hospital - Wyong, whereas I am delivering at the more interventionalist Gosford so imagine it could be even less??? Anyone know who works at either of these hospitals?)? Early skin to skin contact with my baby, and time to allow baby to self attach to the breast are both more important to me than a physiological 3rd stage, so if choosing that option is a risk to either of those things I would prefer they gave me the synto (after waiting for cord to stop pulsing before clamping and cutting)!! Also, I didn't think to ask at the time, but what is the plan if the 1/2 hour is up and the placenta is not delivered? Can you give synto then, or is it too late and there are other things that need to be done? I am just thinking that if there is no problem delaying the synto, can anyone think of any good reason why I couldn't ask for a physiological 3rd stage, then if it was taking too long, or was too painful to hold baby, or I was being rushed to feed to get things moving, I couldn't just say, ok give me the synto then?? Nicola Trainee Doula -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan CudlippSent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:01 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains Hi Lyn I don't know if this woman had actively managed or physiological 3rd stage with her first 2 but I know of one (now grand) multip whose 2nd birth I attended - she suffered dreadfully with after pains in all hosp births but has had the last couple at home with physiological 3rd stages and told me that the after pains have not been a problem . Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: lyn lyn To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] after birth pains Hi all I am seeing a mother G4P3 now at 36 weeks who has asked me if there is anything she can do about after birth pains. She had severe suffering after her last two and would like to avoid if possible. Can they actually be avoided. and if so could that mean that there is a risk that her uterus will not contract down strongly and therefore she may bleed heavily. A midwife I know talked about using coosh (not sure if blue or black, i have no experience with either). Supposed to be an antispasmodic, which may not be ideal if we want a contacted uterus. Thanks in advance for any help you may provide lyn No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains
Title: Message Thanks to those who have replied :) Food for thought. Nikki - no there was no cord traction at all. Nicola 597 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki MacfarlaneSent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:50 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains When you were with the mother who had the physiological third stage Nicole, was there any touching, pulling or tugging on the umbilical cord? If a caregiver is not commonly practicing a physiological third stage they may be putting cord traction on the cord (pulling gently) anf this can cause the pain you spoke of. I have had four physiological third stages and none have been overtly painful. I have seen hundreds and the only time the woman has mentioned pain is when the caregiver is pulling on the cord or putting pressure on the top of the uterus. There is no reason why, if everything else is normal, you cannot decline synt until a time has been reached. A physiological third stage can take a lot longer - anything between a few minutes to 2 hours is still normal - although most hospitals would be uncomfortable waiting more than 30 minutes. There is no increased risk after 30 minutes - sadly, they are smply used to seeing a placenta come a lot quicker than that because managed care is the norm now. You can always choose to have the synt. As with every other intervention, and with the option of expectant care, there are pros and cons and only you can now the acceptable option for you and your baby. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International www.childbirthinternational.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Home Birthing on the Central Coast.
Title: Message Hi Donna, I don't believe there are any actually practicing up here, but I do know a Central Coast friend who wanted a home water birth and found someone to do it. I will forward your email to her and see if she can come up witha contact for you. :) Nicola Morley Trainee Doula -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna HoughtonSent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:06 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Home Birthing on the Central Coast. Hi, I am a Student Midwife at Gosford Hospital, I was wondering if there are any independent midwives on the Central Coast I would love to see a Home birth, and also a home water birth. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[ozmidwifery] In search of a birth
Hi all, I am a trainee doula with one birth to go before qualifying. I had one booked for this week, a VBAC home waterbirth no less, so something really different! But I have just been called and her 2 homebirth midwives feel they need to transfer her to hospital. Understandably she wants to take both of them with her, as well as her partner, and in a hospital setting I can imagine the sheer numbers would be getting a little overwhelming! So they don't need me :( With only 11 weeks of my own pregnancy to go, and very keen to dot the i's and cross the t's so to speak and finalise my qualifications before then, I am desperately searching for another birth. I am on the Central Coast of NSW, but could travel to southern Newcastle or Northern Sydney if necessary. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!! :) Nicola Trainee Doula -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Online meeting places for Australian Doulas / Birth Attendants
Title: Message Another doula here - well doula in training (I have finished all the theory, reading, childbrith calsses etc, have done one trainee birth with two to go due in March.) I joined up on the yahoo group :) Nicola -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:58 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Online meeting places for Australian Doulas / Birth Attendants Hey all, I hope this post is appropriate! I love reading your discussions, however I do feel out of place not being a midwife and am keen to discuss some issues which I dont think will be of interest to some of you, like the ones over the last few days!!! Just wanted to send out an email to let everyone know about the Australian Doulas email list, as I know there are some doulas and birth attendants amongst us. I love chatting with other Doulas / Birth Attendants but there doesnt seem to be something busy enough about the place. If you know any doulas or birth attendants or are one yourself, you can join the Australian Doulas mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian-doulas/ - hopefully we can get some serious conversations going, rather than one email every six months or so! Come on guys, lets get together and chat about birth!!! Please join and introduce yourselves. Please feel free to pass on and circulate to others I didnt start Australian Doulas at all; I am just a Birth Attendant dying to have a place on the web to chat to other doulas and birth attendants. I am also going to start a section in my forums for us to chat, women to ask us questions etc so keep an eye on www.bellybelly.com.au/forums and I will set it up this evening down the bottom of the forums be sure to be registered and get chatting please I feel all alone here!!! Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support
[ozmidwifery] First birth from the other side
Hi all, I just wanted to share that yesterday I went to my first birth as a trainee doula. I have done most of the theory work now, and that was the first of my 3 qualifying births. It went GREAT! Induction, but she managed a natural drug free, QUICK birth (she went from 4cm to delivery in less than 90 minutes). I was particularly happy that one of the main things the mum wanted was to be kept informed, and in part from my reading on this list I found I was able to explain all the medical terminology flying around her in layman's terms that she could understand. It really helped keep her anxiety down because nothing was wrong, but whenever someone said anything she didn't understand she immediately panicked that there was. I loved it, and would love to do another next week!!, but unfortunately have to wait until the birth I have booked in March. I also need to find one more before my own baby is born in May (otherwise it will be ages before I qualify because a newborn will make doing births impossible!), so if anyone knows anyone between Newcastle and Sydney who wants a doula for free I would love to know about it! :) Nicola Morley Trainee Doula Central Coast -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Westmead, Sydney
Does anyone know the current options for delivering at Westmead? I am rather frustrated with my brother's girlfriend's GP who seems to be handling her unexpected pregnancy rather haphazardly. She is only 21, and knows nothing, the baby being unplanned. He told her the 12 weeks NT u/s was compulsory. Then when she said she wanted to deliver at Blacktown, he told her she wasn't allowed to because she was closer geographically to Westmead. He gave her a general hospital enquiry number and told her to ring the hospital. She did and they told her they couldn't see her until March (she is due in May). She has no idea whether she spoke to an antenatal clinic or to the team midwife program (is that still running? I was booked in there when we lived in Sydney). They are planning to move up her (Central Coast) before the birth, so I suggested they just booked in up here to the community midwives, and just travel for appointments until they move, but the doctor told her again that she *had* to go to Westmead. She is worried about not seeing anyone until March (no wonder, first pregnancy and all) except this GP. But she won't listen to my suggestions and thinks she has to do exactly what her GP tells her. I wanted to at least clarify what the delivery options at Westmead are so I can have a talk with her about who she talked to who told her March, etc. Thoughts? Suggestions? Nicola Morley Trainee Doula -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Thankyou re Strep B
Thankyou to everyone who sent me information, gave me suggestions etc on Strep B, testing, options for treatment during labour etc. I will be able to discuss it with the midwives with a bit of background knowledge now, and have lots of ideas to run with if I do end up testing positve again. :) Nicola Morley Trainee Doula -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening
Title: Message Can I ask a personal question on this one? Last birth (January 2003, Gosford Hospital Community Midwives)I was given intravenous antibiotics automatically because I had been StrpB positive in the previous pregnancy. I wasn't retested. I am pregnant again - will I be automatically assumed to have Strep B again? will I be tested again? Is it even possible to be clear now even if I have been Strep B positive in the past or am I hoping in vain to avoid the treatment? It only bothers me because I like to spend a LOT of labour on my hands and knees and I found the drip in my hand very uncomfortable. If it is inevitable to have them again, what is the best plan of action? To stay home as long as possible? To ask for the drip in my forearm instead of the back of my hand? Any other suggestions. I will of course talk about it with the midwives when I book in next week, but just wondering in the meantime, seeing the topic has come up here! Nicola Morley Trainee Doula -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny CameronSent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:23 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening Current recommendations in Vic are to offer screening at 35-37 weeks per the CDC evidence. It does appear to be the best available evidence, far better than the risk-based approach of administering IV ABS to a select group of women considered to be 'at-risk'. Women are unlikely to change their status within a month, therefore with screening only those women who test GBS +ve will be offered IV ABs intrapartum to prevent early onset (within the first week of life) GBS pneumonia in the neonate. Also surface swabbing and collection of gastric asp on neonates is a waste of time, the baby will be sick with GBS well before the results of any swabs are available. Many years ago I saw a baby become ill subsequently die of GBS pneumonia. The baby was term perfectly welll at birth, within an hour of birth started having apnoeic attacks and four hours later was shocked gravely ill. The Vic guidelines are currently under review but you can check the site below: http://www.3centres.com.au/ Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACMPresident NT branch ACMIPO Box 1465Howard Springs NT 083508 8983 19260419 528 717 - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening With respect Jenny, Im not sure that too many of the recommendations out of the good old U.S of A could be described as 'best practice'. Here is the NSW directive, it does however, also refer to the CDC guidelines http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/policies/PD/2005/pdf/PD2005_240.pdf At our unit we do not routinely swab, we take the risk factor approach,but if it appears in MSU or on a swab done for other reasons we then require our women to birth at Gosford where there are paediatricians they can transfer back after 24-48 hrs Cheers Di - Original Message - From: Jenny Cameron To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening Curent best practice is to offer screening for GBS at 35-37 weeks. See site below: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/groupbstrep_g.htm Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACMPresident NT branch ACMIPO Box 1465Howard Springs NT 083508 8983 19260419 528 717 - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B screening I have been told by a pregnant woman that she was reluctant to have a strep B test at 35-37 weeks. She was informed by a doctor in the A/N clinic of our public tertiary hospital, that if she went into labour with an unknown status and attended the delivery suite , her baby would have to be given IMI antibiotics until the babys screening swabs came back 48hrs later. She felt that to protect the baby, she had to consent to A/N screening. Those who recognize the description of this hospital, is that true? Or has this lady been unintentionally misled? Does this happen in any other hospitals? Feel free to email me off line if you dont want to speak publicly. Thanks, MM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Doula Training
Hi Natalie, I asked this question (not re Canberra though) a while ago and got some great responses. I don't know about Canberra area face to face, but there are quite a few correspondence options. Check out these links: http://www.childbirthinternational.com/ http://www.optimumbirth.com/doula_training.htm http://lifeoptions.homestead.com/doulatraining.html http://www.yourbirth.org/library/faq/ Hope that helps Nicola -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Doula Training Subject: Doula Training Hello my name is Natalie Bice and I was wondering if there was anywhere in Canberra you could train to become a doula. If you can pass on any information it would be greatly appreciated. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks Natalie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 27/07/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Doula training - thanks
Natalie's email reminded me to email the list and thank everyone for their information on different doula training options. I have chosen to go with Doula Express, mainly because there are quite a few doulas where I live who have done this course and have been very supportive in offering contacts for childbirth education classes, pregnant women to do the practical work with, etc. They also meet together and support each other regularly. Finally, the face to face option is not too far away in Sydney and they are happy for me to do a combination of face to face and correspondence. I posted off my appliction yesterday and will start on September 8th. Thankyou so much for your help! Nicola Morley -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] inspiring quotes for pregnant women
When I need quotes for anything, a quick search on google or similar of quotes pregnancy or poems pregnancy usually does the trick. HTH J Nicola Morley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] inspiring quotes for pregnant women Hi fellow ozmidders, Do you know of any inspirational quotes or uplifting sayings or motivational pieces that would be helpful to a pregnant woman? Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi
:) Nicola -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Glare Chris Bright Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:25 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi Welcome Nicola, Fancy meeting you here! (after meeting you in NSW) Love, Barb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi
Thanks for that Jo. I checked out their website and they look great too. They have a compare the courses chart and they mention Optimum Birth and Life Options (Doula Express) as the only others available in Australia. Nicola -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 3:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi Nicola, There is also childbirth international who offer a Certified Doula course. I have completed the Optimum Birth and found it very comprehensive and cohesive to pursuing a doula profession. Strong emphasis on the limitations of the profession which is good as some have been known to blur the lines a little - a concern as a doula does NOT do midwifery! I would be happy to discuss with you what I have done off list Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicola Morley Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:12 PM To: Ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi Hi all, I have just joined this mailing list, and want to introduce myself. My name is Nicola. I am mum to 3 gorgeous children, Addison (7), Elisabeth (5) and Keegan (2). I am an Australian Breastfeeding Association breastfeeding counsellor. After being support person for my sister's birth earlier this year, having a doula turned trainee midwife do my last delivery, and being fascinated by all things pregnancy/birth/baby/child related, I am interested in training to become a doula. I would love to find out more about the training courses that are available. I have found 2 through online searches, one through Doula Express, and one through Optimum Birth. Does anyone have any experience with these courses? Are there others that people know of? Currently a special education teacher by profession, just starting on this new journey, I am looking forward to learning a lot from everyone here! :) Nicola -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi
Thanks Janet, but I am on the Central Coast of NSW. Anyone know anyone real life around here? Nicola -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New to list - Hi Hi Nicola, there are real life ones too and I couldn't recommend Rhea Dempsey more highly but she's in Melbourne and I don't know where you are. :-D Janet Joyous Birth Home Birth Forum - a world first! http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ Accessing Artemis Birth Trauma Recovery http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
