[packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Hi,

i've setup an own OBS to fix/cleanup gstreamer for PMOBS, as you can
see (1), for every $DIST an extra version of gstreamer. Also build
required packages only if $DIST doesn't fullfill the requires. For
example:

1140_libmms

Build libmms up to 1140, 1210 and later have libmms in oss.

If nobody have a problem with this style, i ci it to PMOBS.

Detlef

(1) http://drcux.de/gstreamer.pdf



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Re: [packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Christian

Hi Detlef,

Am 28.02.2012 16:06, schrieb Detlef Reichelt:

Hi,

i've setup an own OBS to fix/cleanup gstreamer for PMOBS, as you can
see (1), for every $DIST an extra version of gstreamer. Also build
required packages only if $DIST doesn't fullfill the requires. For
example:

1140_libmms

Build libmms up to 1140, 1210 and later have libmms in oss.

why does libmms need to have such magic names ?
isn't it enough to build against openSUSE:11.4 and openSUSE:12.1 ?


If nobody have a problem with this style, i ci it to PMOBS.

Detlef

(1) http://drcux.de/gstreamer.pdf



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Re: [packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:36:51 +0100
schrieb Christian ch...@computersalat.de:

  1140_libmms
 
  Build libmms up to 1140, 1210 and later have libmms in oss.
 why does libmms need to have such magic names ?

It is easier to see why we build libmms: We need it for = 1140
If we don't build for 11.4 anymore, it is easy to delete old unneeded
packages, because we can delete all 1140_*... ;)

It could help to have PMOBS more cleaner.

 isn't it enough to build against openSUSE:11.4 and openSUSE:12.1 ?

Build against 11.4, 11.2, 11.1 (both evergreen) and SLE11.

Detlef

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Re: [packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Bleser
On 2012-02-28 16:06:42 (+0100), Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de wrote:
 Hi,

 i've setup an own OBS to fix/cleanup gstreamer for PMOBS, as you can
 see (1), for every $DIST an extra version of gstreamer. Also build
 required packages only if $DIST doesn't fullfill the requires. For
 example:

 1140_libmms

 Build libmms up to 1140, 1210 and later have libmms in oss.

 If nobody have a problem with this style, i ci it to PMOBS.

I do, please don't commit those changes.
I'm not sure about a better solution yet, but that is a very
radical change that has quite a lot of consequences:

* we don't link from multimedia:libs any more, hence duplication
  of work (arguably, there are issues in that repository, I've
  tried to explain that to maintainers there),

* frozen packages rather than the latest: both options are
  fine, but we always did the latter (ideally we'd have both),

* I believe we should rather use different OBS _projects_ to do
  that, rather than those weird package names.

On the latter: what about

* Essentials-11.4 - frozen uncrippled versions of what ships with
 openSUSE 11.4 (oss)
* Essentials-12.1 - same for 12.1
* Essentials - latest, built for 11.4, 12.1 and Factory

For SLE11, I guess we only need a Essentials-SLE11 and not
build for SLE11 in Essentials, as it's going more and more out
of date.

Dunno about Tumbleweed. It's not much different from Factory,
hence only built in Essentials.

But let's please give it more thought before making changes.

Thanks on your work on this, let's try to find an optimal way.

And if people want to help out by maintaining packages, please
speak up. Would be even better if we could re-assign
maintainership across a lot more people.

cheers
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Re: [packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:18:37 +0100
schrieb Pascal Bleser pascal.ble...@opensuse.org:

 * we don't link from multimedia:libs any more, hence duplication
   of work (arguably, there are issues in that repository, I've
   tried to explain that to maintainers there),

No, we could link to multimedia:libs, if the maintainer of libXYZ on OBS
takes care about PMOBS!
 
 * frozen packages rather than the latest: both options are
   fine, but we always did the latter (ideally we'd have both),

Frozen only if we don't have a maintainer for the package.

 * I believe we should rather use different OBS _projects_ to do
   that, rather than those weird package names.

Oh, not weird, easy to handle, every user see why we build a package on
PMOBS! Now i have to search for packages which are obsolete and
unmaintainded...

 
 On the latter: what about
 
 * Essentials-11.4 - frozen uncrippled versions of what ships with
  openSUSE 11.4 (oss)
 * Essentials-12.1 - same for 12.1
 * Essentials - latest, built for 11.4, 12.1 and Factory
 
 For SLE11, I guess we only need a Essentials-SLE11 and not
 build for SLE11 in Essentials, as it's going more and more out
 of date.
 
 Dunno about Tumbleweed. It's not much different from Factory,
 hence only built in Essentials.

Hm, for every $DIST a new repo is easier then 1140_libxyz? :D

Detlef


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[packman] 0.98.11-5.12 openSUSE Factory i586

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden ebook57
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Macht doch mal was das funktionniert

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Re: [packman] Clean up PMOBS part 1: gstreamer

2012-02-28 Diskussionsfäden Bjørn Lie
ti., 28.02.2012 kl. 16.06 +0100, skrev Detlef Reichelt:
 Hi,
 
 i've setup an own OBS to fix/cleanup gstreamer for PMOBS, as you can
 see (1), for every $DIST an extra version of gstreamer. Also build
 required packages only if $DIST doesn't fullfill the requires. For
 example:
 
 1140_libmms
 
 Build libmms up to 1140, 1210 and later have libmms in oss.
 
 If nobody have a problem with this style, i ci it to PMOBS.
 
 Detlef
 
 (1) http://drcux.de/gstreamer.pdf

Well look at that, just today I branched 2 of the gstreamer packages, as
I saw that they had not been updated for a long time, and needed some
love. I see you are well ahead of me. No need for me to SR anything ;-)

Great initiative Detlef! The gstreamers look to be in need of
attention. 
The only thing I can think of that could cause trouble in the future is
the 1210 prefix on packages for tumbleweed, what happens when TW changes
to 12.2 base?

And a wish from me :-)
Could we use this cleanup to rename some of the packages to conform
with the rest of gstreamer?

Thinking particular about 

gstreamer010-ffmpeg
gstreamer010-fluendo-mpegdemux
gstreamer010-fluendo-mpegmux

They would then be named:

gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ffmpeg
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-fluendo-mpegdemux
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-fluendo-mpegmux

This is of course not strictly needed in any way, it would just be
nice.



//Bjørn



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