Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread Aaron Ardiri
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > > and, david, you should put your time to more constructive things than > > complaining about something as stupid as this that is really something > > someone else should handle (ie: FSF) > > Do you believe the FSF is "all-seeing, all-knowing

Re: Palm Debugger

2002-02-18 Thread Ben Combee
"Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:77118@palm-dev-forum... > > --- Marcelo Asorey wrote: > > How can I get the Palm Debugger! > > Buy MetroWerks' CodeWarrior for Palm OS. (The Palm Debugger is part of > the CodeWarrior package.) The Palm Debugger is also part of the Palm OS SDK. S

Re: PalmSim glitch

2002-02-18 Thread Ben Combee
"Terry Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:77103@palm-dev-forum... > > While executing the following statement in a "frmClose" routine: > tempInt = MemPtrSize(frmP); > > I got the following error message: > The instruction at "0x00a4d22f" referenced memory at "0x01176858". Th

POSE/Sony Licensing (was Re: converging POSEs)

2002-02-18 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> Huh? This sentence no verb. You seem to be suggesting again that this > clickwrap imposes restrictions on your exercising of your recipients' > rights as granted under the GPL. It forces me to agree to terms which were not included in the original method for obtaining sources for POS

Re: Runtime libraries Link issue

2002-02-18 Thread Ben Combee
"Terry Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:77061@palm-dev-forum... > > To stay within the 32K jump limits of Small Model applications, I > implemented a "Jump table" to all the static runtime library routines that > need to be accessed by application code. And, I positioned my libra

Re: Palm Debugger

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Marcelo Asorey wrote: > How can I get the Palm Debugger! Buy MetroWerks' CodeWarrior for Palm OS. (The Palm Debugger is part of the CodeWarrior package.) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo

Category deleted

2002-02-18 Thread Matt Mason
I wish we could see it a category was deleted on the HH, instead of it just dissapearing. Any votes to enhance the OS so we can get the same kind of record markings for categories? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:01:44PM +0100, Aaron Ardiri wrote: > our main concern is > "can i get a binary of it to use free?".. Indeed. And because it's Free Software, the best way of ensuring that we can get usable versions of it is to get source code, so that we can, if the need arises, fi

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:21:19PM -0800, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > Requiring me to walk through a clickwrap, which imposes restrictions > on me based on region, or layers on top of an exclusive rights agreement Huh? This sentence no verb. You seem to be suggesting again that this clic

Palm Debugger

2002-02-18 Thread Marcelo Asorey
How can I get the Palm Debugger! Thanks _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/suppo

Re: Stack Overflow

2002-02-18 Thread Matt Hebley
At 04:36 PM 18/2/2002 -0800, you wrote: >--- Venugopal B wrote: > > I added a member variable(UInt16) to one of the structs > > ... > > "The application has just overflowed the stack." > > > > If I comment out the new member variable that I added > > then things seem to work fine. > >So, it seems

Re: lists and runtime lists

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Steve Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good reference. For some reason, that article doesn't show up in a > Knowledge Base search for the word LstSetDrawFunction. I am never able to find any of the "recipe" pages unless I remember that the info I wanted was in one of David's recipes, then s

Re: Stack Overflow

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Venugopal B wrote: > I added a member variable(UInt16) to one of the structs > ... > "The application has just overflowed the stack." > > If I comment out the new member variable that I added > then things seem to work fine. So, it seems obvious that you are declaring a stack based variable

Re: lists and runtime lists

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Mann
>See David Fedor's excellent "recipe" for lists at: > > http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/recipes/lists.html > >Pay particular attention to the "Custom-Drawn Lists" section. Good reference. For some reason, that article doesn't show up in a Knowledge Base search for the word LstSetDrawFun

PalmSim glitch

2002-02-18 Thread Terry Dennis
While executing the following statement in a "frmClose" routine: tempInt = MemPtrSize(frmP); I got the following error message: The instruction at "0x00a4d22f" referenced memory at "0x01176858". The memory could not be "read". Is there something illegal about that in 5.0? It has worked

Re: lists and runtime lists

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Benjamin Brazil wrote: > - I don't need to have a list data structure to draw the > list. It can be drawn directly from retrieving strings > from the database. Well, you need a list object. But instead of storing all the strings that will appear in the list in a data structure, the strings

Re: lists and runtime lists

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Mann
At 11:38 PM + 2/18/02, Benjamin Brazil wrote: >I have also purchased the Advanced Palm Programming book as >suggested, where list creation is discussed for a simulated list. I >need the user interface list. Nothing I have seen(and I have looked >through everything I can) seems explain how

Stack Overflow

2002-02-18 Thread Venugopal B
Hi, I am new to Palm OS Programming. I am working on a PRC and it seemed to be working fine until yesterday. I added a member variable(UInt16) to one of the structs associated with a database and when I debug the application using POSE it fails( It fails when I try to load a table with records fr

Problems not calling FrmDrawForm.

2002-02-18 Thread Blake Winton
Background Information: I'm trying to write a Blackjack application. I've set it up so that the Bet state and Play state are represented by two different forms. These forms both have an image that I draw on the background. I'm not using a background image (to placate a co-worker, who doesn't want

Re: lists and runtime lists

2002-02-18 Thread Benjamin Brazil
Hello, I have spent the last few days trying to collect all of the information on creating a runtime list from a database. I have done the Google, archive and sdk searches. I have also purchased the Advanced Palm Programming book as suggested, where list creation is discussed for a simulated l

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> You need to look at what the "rights granted herein" are. AFAICT, those > rights as a recipient of Sony's wares are my right to modify and/or > redistribute it, and my right to obtain corresponding source code > without difficulty if I've only been given a binary. Requiring me to walk

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> and, david, you should put your time to more constructive things than > complaining about something as stupid as this that is really something > someone else should handle (ie: FSF) Do you believe the FSF is "all-seeing, all-knowing"? Without advocates like myself finding these things

C++ exceptions in GCC

2002-02-18 Thread Igor Siemienowicz
Hi everyone, I'm using mobileStudio (a Palm-specific IDE based on the GCC tool chain), and I'm trying to understand the pros and cons of using standard C++ exception-handling instead of the Palm SDK ErrTry/ErrThrow/ErrCatch macros. I'd like to know the following: 1. Is C++-style exception-handl

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- John Marshall wrote: > PS: Since hardly anyone on this list bothers trimming quotations > anymore, I no longer feel guilty about wasting bandwidth by > contributing to these sorts of threads. :-) John, You should definitely not feel guilty; your comments always provide interesteing reading.

Re: Inconsistency in the SDK docs?

2002-02-18 Thread Chris DiPierro
What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Generally if you know about groups, you can go ahead and check for the group's selection at runtime and don't need to figure out which controls are in which groups, but I'd like to hear what you're trying to do because I've always felt groups a little lac

PocketToolbox Fonts... ME again!

2002-02-18 Thread Curt Allen
Hi there group! Well, it is has become obvious (due to scheduling constraints) that the use of CodeWarrior is not in my future. The curve to get up and running is way too long, considering that my project on the Palm is simply a demonstration of a user interface that I am designed for an embedde

Re: Palm Emulator problem - For Keith

2002-02-18 Thread Keith Rollin
At 4:04 PM +0530 2/18/02, Sajul Pamban Nandakumar wrote: >I downloaded your new emulator from the site and loaded it. But now >I see whenever I am in debug mode I cannot set the break points in >my code. It works fine with the old emulator though. What could be >the problem? I am using Codewarr

Strange sysAppLaunchCmdNotify with sysNotifyLateWakeupEvent Problem

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, I have an app compiled with GCC that uses the sysAppLaunchCmdNotify launch code with sysNotifyLateWakeupEvent. It works correctly except when running POSE with OS 3.5.2H. When I get sysNotifyLateWakeupEvent, I end up calling this routine: static void message_dialog (void) { FormPtr

Re: Pose and netlib

2002-02-18 Thread Keith Rollin
At 11:11 AM -0500 2/18/02, Matt Hebley wrote: >Keith > >I understand this mainly from hearsay, and personal experience. In >Greg Winton, Palm OS Network Programming, O'Reilly, p199, it says >"On Windows and Max machines, the host's sockets API do not support >timeouts, so this parameter is igno

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread Aaron Ardiri
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, John Marshall wrote: > That's the section I expected you to quote. Much as I would like to > agree with you, I don't find this reasoning convincing. heh.. me too :) however, i do believe this discussion is not exactly relevant in the palm-dev-forum, there are not many of

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 08:06:29AM -0800, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > Section 6 of the GPL: [...] > You may not > impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of > the rights granted herein. [...] > By imposing a clickwrap requirement on de

Runtime libraries Link issue

2002-02-18 Thread Terry Dennis
To stay within the 32K jump limits of Small Model applications, I implemented a "Jump table" to all the static runtime library routines that need to be accessed by application code. And, I positioned my library at the end of my application Segments so more application code will be able to fit wit

Re: FLOAT ???

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Mann
>If there is sample code I >could look at that would be great!! If you search through the archives for this mailing list, you should find 4-5 pieces of sample code. Regards, Steve Mann -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Terry Dennis
Thomas: I just spent a lovely weekend tearing up perfectly functional code in a generic form driver to "fix" this frmPopupObj problem. The reason for "needing" access to that "virtual" object was to dynamically update the label of the PopTrigger from the value of a user controlled dynamically po

FLOAT ???

2002-02-18 Thread Jay
I know this is going to sound stupid, but how do I enter a value like 1.2 in a textfield and then convert it to it's numerical form and then multiple it by 5.8 and then have it converted back to a string and print it in a textfield??? I keep getting errors and I am extremely new to PALM programmin

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Thomas Maeder wrote: > The only way to do serious programming is to code against a > specification; the specification has to document the complete > (intended) behavior of the SDK functions. Thomas, the SDK docs are not formal specifications. They are more like programmer's guides. They d

Re: Pose and netlib

2002-02-18 Thread Matt Hebley
Keith I understand this mainly from hearsay, and personal experience. In Greg Winton, Palm OS Network Programming, O'Reilly, p199, it says "On Windows and Max machines, the host's sockets API do not support timeouts, so this parameter is ignored." It then goes on to say that POSE appears froze

Re: Inconsistency in the SDK docs?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
Ben Combee wrote: > > If this is a major hole that prevents you from accomplishing something, > let PalmSource know That's what I'm trying to do here. Are they listening? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/supp

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
Joe wrote: > > The SDK docs give you clues concerning how to write programs for the > Palm OS platform. If you need more accurate details, sign up for the > source code. I violently disagree. The only way to do serious programming is to code against a specification; the specification has to do

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
Robert McKenzie wrote: > > Quoting from the PalmOS Programmer's API Reference, OS4, page 260, > FormPopupType: "Your code should consider the FormPopupType structure as > opaque. Do not attempt to change the structure member values directly." I don't attempt to change the structure member valu

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread David A. Desrosiers
> > This is the part I have issue with. The last time I checked, I had > > to sign up for their developer program in order to get their Poser > > and their sources. > > I agree that this is annoying, and against the spirit of the thing. Many > people consider such a restriction to violate the GP

RE: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Robert McKenzie
Quoting from the PalmOS Programmer's API Reference, OS4, page 260, FormPopupType: "Your code should consider the FormPopupType structure as opaque. Do not attempt to change the structure member values directly." A FormPopupType is a fully synthesized object, created by the form at initializatio

Re: Inconsistency in the SDK docs?

2002-02-18 Thread Ben Combee
"Thomas Maeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:77044@palm-dev-forum... > > The SDK docs say (re. ControlType): "Your code should treat the ControlType > structure as opaque. The fields in the struct are set by values you specify > when you create the control resource, and they typically

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Joe
--- Thomas Maeder wrote: > > But it is exposed to the programmer; what other purpose > do the SDK docs serve? > The SDK docs give you clues concerning how to write programs for the Palm OS platform. If you need more accurate details, sign up for the source code. Further, note that the docs a

Inconsistency in the SDK docs?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
The SDK docs say (re. ControlType): "Your code should treat the ControlType structure as opaque. The fields in the struct are set by values you specify when you create the control resource, and they typically do not change. Use the functions specified in the descriptions below to retrieve and set

Incomplete documentation of FldGetScrollValues

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
When a field doesn't have a scrollbar, FldGetScrollValues stops the appliation when applied on it. This behavior isn't documented in the SDK docs. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
Robert McKenzie wrote: > > Methinks you're trying to hold back the tide here. Whether it was a good > decision or not, PalmOS simply doesn't consider a FrmPopupType to be an > exposed-to-the-programmer object. But it is exposed to the programmer; what other purpose do the SDK docs serve? --

RE: How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Robert McKenzie
Methinks you're trying to hold back the tide here. Whether it was a good decision or not, PalmOS simply doesn't consider a FrmPopupType to be an exposed-to-the-programmer object. It just simply is the program's responsibility to duplicate the connection between a trigger and its list. On the pl

How to find the PopupType * given the popup trigger's id?

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
A popup trigger and the list it pops up when selected are connected in the resources. Sound engineering tells us thus not to duplicate this connection (risking inconsistency) in the program code. Finding the PopupType object connecting the two is the way to go. Here's a correct (i.e. conforming t

POSE & Sim

2002-02-18 Thread Russell K Bulmer
Has anyone else noticed that POSE and the Palm Simulator (POSS?) don't work well together? When I have both running at once POSE stops working properly. Every time I switch apps in POSE the screen goes blank and the device hangs. On the plus side, has anyone else noticed that POSS supports the

Re: converging POSEs

2002-02-18 Thread John Marshall
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 02:19:16PM -0800, Keith Rollin wrote: > At 6:05 PM +0100 2/16/02, John Marshall wrote: >> In this case, anyone who gets the binary gets the source code. But >> anyone can get that binary, so this is a pretty meaningless distinction >> from just plain "anyone". > > This is

Re: wireless modem

2002-02-18 Thread Dave Lippincott
Take a look at the Symbol 1700/1800 series. It has an optional integrated WAN modem. (not the 802.11b model). - Original Message - From: "Stella Lai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:37 PM Subj

Written Directly to Memory Manager-

2002-02-18 Thread Shawn
For my sample hack, this is the error i get. "written directly to the memory manager data structure. " it works well for sometime and suddenly i get this error. do let me know what actually is the problem. how to test and debug a hack.?. __ D

NetLibGetHostByName - Fatal Exception

2002-02-18 Thread wojtek
I found out that in my code NetLiBGetHostByName fails with FatalException. I checked arguments,but those seems OK. I've linked NetLib from SDK3.5. My device has PalmOS 3.5.0 with NetLibrary 3.5. BTW Can someone explain me what is Net Library in my Palm. And why I have to link into my code NetLi

Re: Return value of DmFindResource.

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Maeder
Steve Mann wrote: > > Why not look for a non-existent resource type and find out? Because it's better to know how things are supposed to be than how they are in one specific case. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/

Palm Emulator problem - For Keith

2002-02-18 Thread Sajul Pamban Nandakumar
This is for Keith, I downloaded your new emulator from the site and loaded it. But now I see whenever I am in debug mode I cannot set the break points in my code. It works fine with the old emulator though. What could be the problem? I am using Codewarrier 6. Sajul. -- For i

RE: !!!pdb file

2002-02-18 Thread Quennie
yeah..thanks Richard. i do consider with your assumption given. The conduit(ABC.DLL) has been installed in the client's PC. For the first time it sync, it should be alright, but after doing some minor changes, it cannot sync and when it sync the error come out on the desktop :" Error in ABC.dll" I

Re: Slider with non-0 min does not track pen properly

2002-02-18 Thread John Marshall
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:53:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm having trouble with the feedback slider in Palm OS 3.5. Works great > unless the min value > 0. Then the thumb jumps to the left (horizontal > slider) by the min amount when you start dragging. Also, the value is set > bet