Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
Tom Tanner via Pan-users posted on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:44:34 +0100 as excerpted: > On 24/07/2023 14:49, Duncan wrote: >> The problem has to do with gtk icon-caching. When they're cached, as >> they are in most cases, no problem. But when a gtk-related update >> invalidates that cache, the icons aren't fetched correctly the first >> time (it's not waiting for the cache update), so the returned width is >> zero. That causes the column-width calculations to go screwy. >> > Not sure about this, as I use windows, and keep building my own pan, but > shouldn't one run > > |gtk-update-icon-cache| > > when you update? Maybe that should be in the pan installer? That indeed looks like it could help and is a great pointer, yes. Looking at the manpage there's a number of options that look interesting to explore in connection with this bug. Maybe put a cache-update call in my pan starter script to replace all that prefs-patching hackery? (FWIW, despite my long-term interest in gtk-based pan, in general I'm more familiar with kde/qt than gnome/gtk. So I either didn't know about gtk- update-icon-cache or at least hadn't made the now-obvious association. But it sure looks related now that you've pointed me at it, so great pointer, indeed!) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
On 24/07/2023 14:49, Duncan wrote: dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:25:29 -0700 as excerpted: Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race condition' but I even turned off 'work online', quit, restarted, and it still happened. How do I get those back? It's unusable otherwise. I see you got them back, but to explain that "race condition"... Yes, it is a race condition, but work offline won't help, because it occurs during GUI setup and has nothing to do with the networking. The problem has to do with gtk icon-caching. When they're cached, as they are in most cases, no problem. But when a gtk-related update invalidates that cache, the icons aren't fetched correctly the first time (it's not waiting for the cache update), so the returned width is zero. That causes the column-width calculations to go screwy. The result is that anything beyond the first icon column (the state and action columns, one of which IIRC is the first column by default so it's all of them) gets zeroed out, which in turn results in the /last/ column taking up the entire space, with everything else squeezed into zero-width columns at the far left. Then those zero-width column sizes get saved so restarting doesn't help. The (until next time) user-level fix is to either one-at-a-time drag all those stacked zero-width dividers at the far left back to plausible values, which works but is fiddly and having to do it over again at the next icon- cache invalidation (I've not figured out which package updates the icons thus invalidating the cache, but it has to be one or more of the gtk- related packages) gets old fast, OR, (manually or automatically) text-edit the preferences.xml file to reset non-zero widths. But editing the prefs file manually gets old after a couple times too, so as implied by the parenthetical above, I've automated the process here, with a pan startup script that resets them (applying patch files to do so) if it finds them set to zero. So here, when that happens I can immediately close and restart pan and the startup script will reset them. IOW it's not directly a pan bug, but rather gtk related. Perhaps pan could work around it, tho, if someone knowing gtk well enough got hit enough times by the bug to trigger them to investigate further. Unfortunately I'm not a dev, just an admin (of my own systems) that reads enough dev-speak to have debugged it far enough to have scripted my own mostly-automated workaround. The things we'll do to work around computer bugs in our favorite programs! =:^\ Not sure about this, as I use windows, and keep building my own pan, but shouldn't one run |gtk-update-icon-cache| when you update? Maybe that should be in the pan installer? ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:25:29 -0700 as excerpted: > Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but > once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, > bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race > condition' but I even turned off 'work online', quit, restarted, and it > still happened. How do I get those back? It's unusable otherwise. I see you got them back, but to explain that "race condition"... Yes, it is a race condition, but work offline won't help, because it occurs during GUI setup and has nothing to do with the networking. The problem has to do with gtk icon-caching. When they're cached, as they are in most cases, no problem. But when a gtk-related update invalidates that cache, the icons aren't fetched correctly the first time (it's not waiting for the cache update), so the returned width is zero. That causes the column-width calculations to go screwy. The result is that anything beyond the first icon column (the state and action columns, one of which IIRC is the first column by default so it's all of them) gets zeroed out, which in turn results in the /last/ column taking up the entire space, with everything else squeezed into zero-width columns at the far left. Then those zero-width column sizes get saved so restarting doesn't help. The (until next time) user-level fix is to either one-at-a-time drag all those stacked zero-width dividers at the far left back to plausible values, which works but is fiddly and having to do it over again at the next icon- cache invalidation (I've not figured out which package updates the icons thus invalidating the cache, but it has to be one or more of the gtk- related packages) gets old fast, OR, (manually or automatically) text-edit the preferences.xml file to reset non-zero widths. But editing the prefs file manually gets old after a couple times too, so as implied by the parenthetical above, I've automated the process here, with a pan startup script that resets them (applying patch files to do so) if it finds them set to zero. So here, when that happens I can immediately close and restart pan and the startup script will reset them. IOW it's not directly a pan bug, but rather gtk related. Perhaps pan could work around it, tho, if someone knowing gtk well enough got hit enough times by the bug to trigger them to investigate further. Unfortunately I'm not a dev, just an admin (of my own systems) that reads enough dev-speak to have debugged it far enough to have scripted my own mostly-automated workaround. The things we'll do to work around computer bugs in our favorite programs! =:^\ -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
On 7/15/23 8:23 PM, David Chmelik wrote: On 7/15/23 8:14 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: On 7/15/23 18:25, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race condition' but I even turned off 'work online', quit, restarted, and it still happened. How do I get those back? It's unusable otherwise. Are you missing columns or headers? If it's columns, got to Edit:Preferences and to the Headers Tab to see if the columns you're missing are selected. If they are already selected, check your column widths at the top of the headers pane. If they are too wide, some columns will disappear off to the right. Check for a horizontal slide bar at the bottom of the Headers Pane. Grab the vertical line between the column headers and slide left or right to readjust the size. If you're missing headers/articles, go to Edit:Preferences then to the Articles Tab and see what it's set to delete articles at. [...] I explained this before; the (selected in preferences) columns disappeared and so did the horizontal slide bar/li, which somene described happened because of a 'race condition'. Bar/line. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
On 7/15/23 8:14 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: On 7/15/23 18:25, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race condition' but I even turned off 'work online', quit, restarted, and it still happened. How do I get those back? It's unusable otherwise. Are you missing columns or headers? If it's columns, got to Edit:Preferences and to the Headers Tab to see if the columns you're missing are selected. If they are already selected, check your column widths at the top of the headers pane. If they are too wide, some columns will disappear off to the right. Check for a horizontal slide bar at the bottom of the Headers Pane. Grab the vertical line between the column headers and slide left or right to readjust the size. If you're missing headers/articles, go to Edit:Preferences then to the Articles Tab and see what it's set to delete articles at. [...] I explained this before; the (selected in preferences) columns disappeared and so did the horizontal slide bar/li, which was described to do so because of a 'race condition'. ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again
On 7/15/23 18:25, dchme...@gmail.com wrote: Pan got upgrade to 0.154 on my OS (Slackware64 15+current GNU/Linux) but once again I'm only seeing the last header of subject, author, date, bytes. Someone said the first three disappeared because of a 'race condition' but I even turned off 'work online', quit, restarted, and it still happened. How do I get those back? It's unusable otherwise. Are you missing columns or headers? If it's columns, got to Edit:Preferences and to the Headers Tab to see if the columns you're missing are selected. If they are already selected, check your column widths at the top of the headers pane. If they are too wide, some columns will disappear off to the right. Check for a horizontal slide bar at the bottom of the Headers Pane. Grab the vertical line between the column headers and slide left or right to readjust the size. If you're missing headers/articles, go to Edit:Preferences then to the Articles Tab and see what it's set to delete articles at. Hope this helps, Ed -- Ed Fletcher "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” ― C.S. Lewis ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
