FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. For further information: HumanWare Canada Nicolas Lagace tel.: (450) 463-1717 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You Tube videos
It sounds like maybe Youtube would be an interesting thing to check out. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: You Tube videos Got this tip from a mailing list I am subscribed and thought some of you might like this too. I should be able to use Applian's Media Catcher to capture all the videos much more quickly via youtube.com playlist feature. YouTube QuickLists If you've ever used the video Web site of YouTube, you know it has millions of videos for you to see! YouTube does a great job of making these videos visible to you. For example, if you go to view a video about the new Apple iPhone, to the right of the video, you will see other videos uploaded by that user, along with more videos related to the iPhone. http://imgsrv. worldstart. com/ct-images/ listquick1. jpg For certain videos, you may find several others you're interested in and you may want to watch them. In that case, you'll want to create a quick playlist of those videos so that you don't lose them. Well, YouTube includes a feature that allows you to do just that. It's called QuickLists and let me tell you, it's awesome! QuickLists has been around for quite awhile, but it's possible that you haven't noticed it yet. After today, you will know exactly what to look for. I'm going to show you how to work with it and use it to your advantage. Let's get started! 1.) Go ahead and surf to YouTube (youtube.com http://youtube. com/ ). 2.) Once you're there, search for a favorite video or just click on any video on the homepage. 3.) You will see the Related Videos and More From: sections (for a certain user) that we discussed earlier. If you look closely, you will see a little plus sign ( http://imgsrv. worldstart. com/ct-images/ listquick2. jpg ) in the bottom right corner of each video thumbnail. http://imgsrv. worldstart. com/ct-images/ listquick3. jpg 4.) Clicking on that will automatically add it to a QuickList for you. Go ahead and try adding a couple videos to a QuickList. They will appear right above the Related Videos section. You will see the QuickList icon in your search results as well. 5.) Next, click the Play All link to have the videos automatically play in order. http://imgsrv. worldstart. com/ct-images/ listquick4. jpg After you've watched all of your QuickList videos, you can then clear them away by clicking on the Clear link. Or, if you have a YouTube account, you can save them into a permanent playlist by clicking the Save link. QuickLists are an easy way to make your YouTube experience a whole lot more fun. Enjoy! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice Broadcasting Tutorial availability
Hello List! For quite a while, I have had a shoutcast server running and juse it quite a bit to play MP3 and other files. Now, I would someday like to broadcast live in voice and need to know how this is done, specificially from a tutorial on the subject. I have Sam Broadcaster and an older version of OTSDJ, along with Winamp; however, I have found Sam Broadcaster almost impossible to use due to its accessability problems and I can't get Otsdj reactivated after my machine was reset with a new OS; therefore I am stuck with Winamp for the time being. I downloaded and installed the Linerec Plug-in. I saw something on ACB Radio describing how to do this with the plug-in, but I can never get it to work or sound smooth. What I am looking for is a step-by-step tutorial, with examples, how to work this plug-in with Winamp and actually do a little broadcasting using Winamp, both talking and playing music. I guess this would also include some tutorial info on Winamp. I have the server and connectability of the server and my system set up. I just want a good tutorial on broadcasting. I know most of the ACB people use Winamp and the linerec plug-in or Otsdj, so hopefully someone can help me do this. Just a step-by-step text instruction would do as well. I have all the equipment I need to do this and am just waiting on the instructions or tutorial to teach me how to do it. Thanks very much for your time and help. Also, if someone knows of a program (autimated) or system that a person could just install and have everything there. Would a system like VIPConduit, Talking Communities, or any other similar service be use for broadcasting? Sort of a already put-together studio with everything from server connection to playing commercials, etc in a box. That would make broadcasting in voice and playing music easy. If such a thing exist, do let me know. I'm ready to get going. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More Goldwave Questions.
I have not had that problem with Window Eyes. I would suggest you reinstall Goldwave. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype Cleverclogs6953 Windows Live Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 - Original Message - From: Vinny Samarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: More Goldwave Questions. Hi, First of allWhat is the sampling rate for commercial cds? II have a player that is about 5 years old and only plays cds, not mp3. The other question I have is that at least with Window-eyes, I am not able to read the sampling rate most times when I go to that prompt. Even yousing the mouse keys, or read current line, the sampling rate only pops up once in a while. Do any of you have this problem? Thanks very much. Vinny Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 16/11/2007 22:58 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem Playing WMA Files In Winamp
Hi John! What installation of Winamp do you have - full, custom, lite etc? I know that with the lite edition some files are not even in the file list so if you don't have the full installation then WMA might be missing; I had this problem with AVI files for a change with Winamp 5.5 lite, then I got the full version and it solved the problem. Martina Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player can read
Well, can i stream radio with shoutcast that win media player can read, if so how? Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rockbox
You could probably get the sandisc sansa e200 or c200. Don't get an ipod, --they're too expensive, and when you can get a mp3 player for cheaper than that, you shouldn't need to pay that much- but then again, how big do you want it to be? I currently own an ipod video, which I payed $400 for. The sansa c250, 2 gigs of memory but with expansion, was about 60 bucks. Rockbox works splendidly on the ipod video, and a note, if your getting rockbox right away, don't bother getting warranty. This is just a waiste of money, as its voided when you instal rockbox. - Tyler visit my website! http://www.valiant.789mb.com note: Make sure you have your speakers turned on to get a cool-sounding intro! - Original Message - From: Jim Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: RE: Rockbox What is the best ipod to get that will work with this software currently? Is there something currently in production I can find at walmart? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of anthony campbell Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:16 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Rockbox hello, rock box is a software for some mp3 players so they can be used by us. hth anthony - Original Message - From: PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Rockbox is it something like talx for cells? Richard Beausoleil PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Arrangements musicaux Studio multi-pistes Démo vocal Tél : (514) 924-0411 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Rockbox I can tell you Richard that Rockbox is a piece of software written by VI guys I believe, to make some Ipods and other non-speaking portable players accessible via speech feedback. Seems in pretty well all instances installing this software, well, firmware modification, invalidates the warranty that comes with players. Sure if you do a search Google will come up with the places you can download it. (All this from someone who's not cool enough to own an IPod or any other MP3/AAC player, though I've got a Zenstone.) Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Hi all My name is Richard. I'm a musician and I'm interested to know more about audio. Recently, I posted few questions on this list concerning the accessibility of mp3 players. What's rockbox? I don't know if my emails are coming through this list but I don't understand I get any response on basic questions that passionated people like you should know answers about. Hope someone could help me. regards Richard Beausoleil PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Arrangements musicaux Studio multi-pistes Démo vocal Tél : (514) 924-0411 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: The Ipod classic No problem. If you have any trouble: add me on msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] further contact info in signature... Tristan Bussiere Founder, ACE Games http://www.acegamesonline.net Skype: tristanbussiere MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: The Ipod classic Thank you very much for posting this. On 09/11/2007, at 8:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my new iPod classic 80 gb, and here is my quick way of navigating the iPod... Simpelist method::: Sighted person not required. Lol! When the iPod classic is turned on [any button to do so], hit play. This will play all your songs in order. Basic steps::: I required some sighted assistance, but since I am telling you these pointers, you will not.: For shuffle; 1) Go to main menu on iPod classic. By hitting menu on the top of the clickwheel. Hit it 2 to 3 times to mkae sure you are in the main menu. 2) You should be able to hear an audible click, as you move from option to option on a menu. In this step it doesn't matter if the click is set to go through the head phones, or the iPod internal speaker. Click down the menu, until you hear no more audible clicks. 3) Go up one click (and/or option). And hit enter (select button). It should shuffle the songs and start playing. Now playing: 1) Go to the main menu. 2) Go to the very last option, and hit enter. *note: If there hasn't been a play session started, you will shuffle the songs! Audio books: note: This is my setup, if you have
Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player can read
No, you can't the encoders can not support this function. Winamp is enough accessible and supports over 25 different music file types alone, so you should be set with that. Tristan Bussiere Founder, ACE Games http://www.acegamesonline.net Skype: tristanbussiere MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player can read Well, can i stream radio with shoutcast that win media player can read, if so how? Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player canread
I beg to differ with your answer. We are currently using shoutcast to stream our station, www.TheJazzy1.com thru windows media ... Everything works quite well and we have had no problems Earle Brown Director of Operations TheJazzy1 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player canread No, you can't the encoders can not support this function. Winamp is enough accessible and supports over 25 different music file types alone, so you should be set with that. Tristan Bussiere Founder, ACE Games http://www.acegamesonline.net Skype: tristanbussiere MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player can read Well, can i stream radio with shoutcast that win media player can read, if so how? Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. For further information: HumanWare Canada Nicolas Lagace tel.: (450) 463-1717 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Sure. The quality of the TTS is OK but not near Elequents in my opinion. The unit is about the width of a deck of cards. The unit is slightly longer then a deck of cards. The volume of the speaker is not grate but certainly would do in a quiet environment. Plans are in place to support Plays for sure DRM but the unit does not right now. Price point is pretty good for this unit. hth...Keith - Original Message - From: Bradford Trainham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. For further information: HumanWare Canada Nicolas Lagace tel.: (450) 463-1717 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and
Re: Spiral Frog validation
The validation wasn't needed when I signed up. You see it when you try to actually download a song. - Original Message - From: Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:45 AM Subject: Re: Spiral Frog validation Hi, Bob. I didn't see one when I attempted to sign up. But then I lost interest anyhow because there were so many stipulations about using it that I decided it wasn't worth it for me. pPeace, Kathy Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/ http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Spiral Frog validation Is there a way around the Spiral Frog visual validation for blind users. I signed up for a trial before finding out about this little problem. Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.34/1134 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 9:52 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to
Re: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
I work at the Hadley School for the Blind and we have been testing two Victor Reader Streams and both myself and the other tester love them. The playing of .mp3 files sounds great but only if the speed is set to 0, normal, and the tone is also set to 0. NLS books sound great. I intend to buy one now that VR Streams can play Audible books too. - Original Message - From: Bradford Trainham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. For further information: HumanWare Canada Nicolas Lagace tel.: (450) 463-1717 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Hi: Here are my comments on the stream. I'd love to have a company like Humanware or others market a product which is actually finished, but after the latest firmware was released, I must say it was worth the wait. I just read 2 books on audible this weekend. The compression where one can speed up a book without listening to chipmonks is fantastic. This type of listening takes some getting used to, but it is the best I've heard to date. The tone and other adjustments are a personal taste and itseems there was improvements here to. I've been also impressed on the navigational improvements. One should take note that sdhc cards might need a reformat to work after the upgrade, as mine was not recognized for playing files after the update. I reformatted the card and all is well. Jeff At 05:18 PM 11/18/2007, you wrote: Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music
Re: question about CDDB and winamp 5.5
Very strange...I'm running 5.5 and haven't had this particular problem...Although, on my system, it now appears to be called MusicID From Gracenote, instead of CDDB. In fact, I just popped in a CD now, clicked the MusicID button from my drive in the library, and the data was downloaded no problem. --- Visit me on Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/wesderby Now, I actually remember to log in and check it! Check out CashCrate: http://www.cashcrate.com/index.php?ref=230383 It's free to join, and a great way to earn a few extra bucks. - Original Message - From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: question about CDDB and winamp 5.5 Hey gang, Has winamp lost the CDDB option in version 5.5? I was trying to get information about a CD and when I went to the CDDB button it said that it wasn't installed. What happened to it? The Gracenet service has always been a part of the program. This is strange. Tony Tony Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Are the storage cards that work with these devices once-writable, or can you treat them (as the advertisement says) like a Windows drive and add/change/delete to your perverse heart's content? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dunn Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Hi: Here are my comments on the stream. I'd love to have a company like Humanware or others market a product which is actually finished, but after the latest firmware was released, I must say it was worth the wait. I just read 2 books on audible this weekend. The compression where one can speed up a book without listening to chipmonks is fantastic. This type of listening takes some getting used to, but it is the best I've heard to date. The tone and other adjustments are a personal taste and itseems there was improvements here to. I've been also impressed on the navigational improvements. One should take note that sdhc cards might need a reformat to work after the upgrade, as mine was not recognized for playing files after the update. I reformatted the card and all is well. Jeff At 05:18 PM 11/18/2007, you wrote: Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
And the machine also has a rudimentary voice-record function, right? Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Runbox Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:23 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady I work at the Hadley School for the Blind and we have been testing two Victor Reader Streams and both myself and the other tester love them. The playing of .mp3 files sounds great but only if the speed is set to 0, normal, and the tone is also set to 0. NLS books sound great. I intend to buy one now that VR Streams can play Audible books too. - Original Message - From: Bradford Trainham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. For further information: HumanWare Canada Nicolas Lagace tel.: (450)
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Thanks, That was very helpful indeed! I do most of my reading via BookShare, but I wanted an affordable means of not being tethered to a computer. Thanks for the detailed response, Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:19 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Hi: Sdhc cards are re-writeable, as per their shelf life I do not know how long that would be. I guess that depends on how often they are repeatively written upon. I have an 8 gig card, and I've yet to have fully filled it up to where I needed and had no room to use the memory.Perhaps I'll max out at a 16 gig card for sake of selfish greede, oopz I mean convenience. Remember these players will also store and play back og vorbus files allowing formaximal storage and sound quality. Jeff At 06:28 PM 11/18/2007, you wrote: Are the storage cards that work with these devices once-writable, or can you treat them (as the advertisement says) like a Windows drive and add/change/delete to your perverse heart's content? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dunn Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Hi: Here are my comments on the stream. I'd love to have a company like Humanware or others market a product which is actually finished, but after the latest firmware was released, I must say it was worth the wait. I just read 2 books on audible this weekend. The compression where one can speed up a book without listening to chipmonks is fantastic. This type of listening takes some getting used to, but it is the best I've heard to date. The tone and other adjustments are a personal taste and itseems there was improvements here to. I've been also impressed on the navigational improvements. One should take note that sdhc cards might need a reformat to work after the upgrade, as mine was not recognized for playing files after the update. I reformatted the card and all is well. Jeff At 05:18 PM 11/18/2007, you wrote: Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive
Re: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Plays, m4A files? Will it play m4A files in folders not just audible ones? I save much material in m4A format because at 20Kbps, it is excellent quality at that low of a bit rate. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the
Re: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
heh. Looks like you named yourself runbox, just like the e-mail provider. thought that was funny. but yeah, this is so cool about Audible! I subscribe to it and would love to get one for now. ah, Christmas is coming so maybe Santa will be conviced that i've been good enough to get one. At 04:23 PM 11/18/2007, you wrote: I work at the Hadley School for the Blind and we have been testing two Victor Reader Streams and both myself and the other tester love them. The playing of .mp3 files sounds great but only if the speed is set to 0, normal, and the tone is also set to 0. NLS books sound great. I intend to buy one now that VR Streams can play Audible books too. - Original Message - From: Bradford Trainham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream to the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare Victor Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that offers accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all in one package. We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books for the blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for Business Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to bring the benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible listeners. Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in USA). Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player to software version 1.1 in order to play Audible books. The latest version 1.1 software upgrade is also available online at www.humanware.com. About HumanWare HumanWare (www.humanware.com) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products including BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier.
Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media playercanread
How? - Original Message - From: jazzjourneys.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media playercanread I beg to differ with your answer. We are currently using shoutcast to stream our station, www.TheJazzy1.com thru windows media ... Everything works quite well and we have had no problems Earle Brown Director of Operations TheJazzy1 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player canread No, you can't the encoders can not support this function. Winamp is enough accessible and supports over 25 different music file types alone, so you should be set with that. Tristan Bussiere Founder, ACE Games http://www.acegamesonline.net Skype: tristanbussiere MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Can i use shoutcast to stream radio that windows media player can read Well, can i stream radio with shoutcast that win media player can read, if so how? Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady
Sorry, but don't really know what flavours of mp4 audio the stream will play. I only know that the class or level 4 was mentioned. I'm knowledgable on the details of the various MP34 or M4 levels. Wish I was. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Curtis Delzer Plays, m4A files? Will it play m4A files in folders not just audible ones? I save much material in m4A format because at 20Kbps, it is excellent quality at that low of a bit rate. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream. 1. With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files, including type 4 or whatever they're called. Obviously the player has to be registered with the Audible software. 2. Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and .ogg files. Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too. 3. Good through an external powered speaker. 4. Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not meant for that either. 5. You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug an external mic in. Sensitivity of this mic is very good. Does record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC. 6. Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings. 7. Good support for text and HTML files too; read by sythetic speech which to my ear is good. Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not sure on that. Navigation of text much improved with character, word, line sentence and paragraph. 8. Only real downside is USB 1.1. This means if transfering files via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW! You can use an external card writer though to place files on the SD cards it takes. 9. Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite quickly. (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is solved now.) In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of the cost of access tech devices anyway. Overall quality of playback is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something lacking quality-wise. HTH. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Bradford Trainham Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share? It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed many of the contending/similar products that are designed to give us on-the-go access to digitally-done books. Brad Trainham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pattison Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007 Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed for blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3, DAISY, and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the Audible format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users. Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet, providing over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines. The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio books and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks. For Audible books, the user will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time lapsed. Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular basis often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital pitch correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than normal playback speed. The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All keys and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a built-in User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad functions. It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play text-only files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD memory card to store books and music transferred from a computer. We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation
how to turn microphone volume up in Windows Vista with Jaws
Hello there, I am wondering how do you actually turn the microphone up in Windows Vista? I can get it to hear me a bit but the volume isn't loud enough. Scott Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to turn microphone volume up in Windows Vista with Jaws
control panel, sounds. control tab to recording tab and find your microphone. Go into properties and contro tab through the different tabs and look for 20db boost andcheck the box. Rick -- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put subscribe in the subject line. Contact info: Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype - rharmon928 MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Scott Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:33 PM Subject: how to turn microphone volume up in Windows Vista with Jaws Hello there, I am wondering how do you actually turn the microphone up in Windows Vista? I can get it to hear me a bit but the volume isn't loud enough. Scott Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spiral Frog validation
You have to do it every time you download a file. - Original Message - From: Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Spiral Frog validation Hi, Bob. I didn't see one when I attempted to sign up. But then I lost interest anyhow because there were so many stipulations about using it that I decided it wasn't worth it for me. pPeace, Kathy Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/ http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Spiral Frog validation Is there a way around the Spiral Frog visual validation for blind users. I signed up for a trial before finding out about this little problem. Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.34/1134 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 9:52 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finding CD names etc.
Hi Can anyone explain how to find and apply CD and track names when Media Player has not recognised them the first time of ripping. Indeed is it possible? Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spiral Frog validation
I've actually been in touch with them about this...They're interested in pursuing the audio captcha, but seemingly only if they can find a free way to do it, and if one of us who needs it does all the research and stuff for them. Their response, when I told them about how Digg and Craigslist utilize audio was Do you know what system they use? Is it free? Let us know, and we'll consider it. Since I work, have a wife and kid, and have a life, I haven't really had time to research HOW to implement the audio captcha, but I'll admit I was tempted to write them and tell them they should really consider putting one of their staff members on it to get the necessary information. Let's face it; filesharing would become less popular and less necessary if more of these services were more accessible/user friendly, and had all the music we want. :) --- Visit me on Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/wesderby Now, I actually remember to log in and check it! Check out CashCrate: http://www.cashcrate.com/index.php?ref=230383 It's free to join, and a great way to earn a few extra bucks. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Spiral Frog validation You have to do it every time you download a file. - Original Message - From: Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Spiral Frog validation Hi, Bob. I didn't see one when I attempted to sign up. But then I lost interest anyhow because there were so many stipulations about using it that I decided it wasn't worth it for me. pPeace, Kathy Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/ http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Spiral Frog validation Is there a way around the Spiral Frog visual validation for blind users. I signed up for a trial before finding out about this little problem. Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.34/1134 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 9:52 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
