RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Johnny Angel]

Oh that makes perfect sense...

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 2:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Downloaded software and games. I don't believe that stores recordings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
> 
> So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it 
> primarily to store recordings?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Gary Schindler
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster 
> processor and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No 
> extras for blind people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the 
> fire stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I 
> think it is also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb 
> of memory and is only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 
> more than the stick, and I don't know if it yields the same joy as the
stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime 
> in here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of 
> the fire stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will 
> download a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There 
> are instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I 
> don't have the link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with 
> it, I will see if I can find it. Also, make sure that once you get 
> your fire up and running, that you make sure the software is 
> up-to-date. So you want to check for updates of course. You don't 
> really need the iPad mini for this. You just need to have a place to plug
the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be 
> able to switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear 
> what's going on, including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini 
> has no role to play here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that 
>> Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see 
>> categories of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv 
>> stick, sign in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other 
>> blind people; since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I 
>> haven't had to do that again, so I can personally verify it. My set 
>> up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that 
>> sign in, because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a 
>> lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has 
>> alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa 
>> much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, 
>> since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is 
>> better at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Mary Otten]

Downloaded software and games. I don't believe that stores recordings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
> 
> So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it
> primarily to store recordings?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
> Schindler
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
> and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
> people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
> stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
> also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
> only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
> I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
> here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
> stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
> a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
> instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
> link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
> can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
> that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
> updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
> need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
> switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
> including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
> here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
>> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
>> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
>> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
>> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
>> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
>> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
>> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
>> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
>> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I 
>> don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
>> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Johnny Angel]

Got it!

Thanks Mary...

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:18 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

I agree with Gary. As a blind person, I see no reason to pay more. If you
have sighted people in your house of course, there are advantages as he
pointed out. Amazon prime day is coming up. I don't know what country you
are in. But if you are one that gets that primed day thing, you might wait
and see what specials they will be having, especially if you're interested
in the Fire TV. They always seem to discount their own products fairly
heavily.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Gary Schindler  wrote:
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the 
> fire stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I 
> think it is also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb 
> of memory and is only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 
> more than the stick, and I don't know if it yields the same joy as the
stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime 
> in here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of 
> the fire stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will 
> download a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There 
> are instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I 
> don't have the link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with 
> it, I will see if I can find it. Also, make sure that once you get 
> your fire up and running, that you make sure the software is 
> up-to-date. So you want to check for updates of course. You don't 
> really need the iPad mini for this. You just need to have a place to plug
the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be 
> able to switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear 
> what's going on, including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini 
> has no role to play here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that 
>> Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see 
>> categories of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv 
>> stick, sign in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other 
>> blind people; since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I 
>> haven't had to do that again, so I can personally verify it. My set 
>> up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that 
>> sign in, because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a 
>> lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has 
>> alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa 
>> much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, 
>> since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is 
>> better at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Johnny Angel]

So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it
primarily to store recordings?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
Schindler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
people!


-Original Message-
From: Johnny Angel
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
>
> Thanks Mary,
>
> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
sells everything I need?
>
> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> John Chilelli
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>
> Hi John,
>
> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I 
> don't
use that service.
> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>
> Mary
>
>
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Mary Otten]

I agree with Gary. As a blind person, I see no reason to pay more. If you have 
sighted people in your house of course, there are advantages as he pointed out. 
Amazon prime day is coming up. I don't know what country you are in. But if you 
are one that gets that primed day thing, you might wait and see what specials 
they will be having, especially if you're interested in the Fire TV. They 
always seem to discount their own products fairly heavily.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Gary Schindler  wrote:
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor and 
> you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
> stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
> also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
> only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
> I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
> here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
> stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
> a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
> instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
> link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
> can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
> that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
> updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
> need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
> switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
> including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
> here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
>> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign
>> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people;
>> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do
>> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I
>> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in,
>> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of
>> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as
>> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but
>> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
>> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: basslet

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
This sounds intresting.
WOuld be great if there was something for the mid and treble range as well but 
i guess that is much harder to fix.
/A
> 30 juni 2017 kl. 11:20 skrev André van Deventer :
> 
> Hi all
> 
> 
> 
> I realize this may not be of interest to many so simply delete if you find
> it boring.  Hopefully it may be of some interest to someone.
> 
> 
> 
> I have recently acquired a new product called the basslet.  What this is is
> a very small transmitter which connects to any kind of music player with a
> socket to which you can connect [ a pair of headphones or in my case  a
> cable connecting my two cochlear implants  to the headphone jack of my
> iphone.
> 
> 
> 
> The transmitter then transmits sound to a watch like device  which straps
> onto your wrist.  The wrist device then vibrates in frequencies between 128
> hz and 10 hz.  It was designed to give people who listen to headphones an
> extra bass experience which cheaper headphones cannot provide.
> 
> My situation is a bit different though.  With my last cochlear implant I
> lost all frequencies below 100 hz which has a profound impact especially
> when listening to music.  You effectively lose all lower sounds which makes
> it sound if you are listening to a transistor radio or one of these small
> and cheap cd players.
> 
> 
> 
> I was busy researching intohow to get back some of these lower frequencies
> when a friend from the US alerted me to a new device on kickstarter.com
> which was the basslet.  This immediately piqued my interest and I thought
> that it may be possible to get the lower frequencies back by touch.  However
> when  the device finally came on the market I learned to my sorrow that it
> it will not be available in SA for a while.  I arranged through someone in
> England to buy it for me and it arrived yesterday.
> 
> 
> 
> Although my initial impressions are very positive, I need to do some more
> experiments to see what the full impact of the device will be.  |What is
> important to keep in mind is that this is not sound but vibrations.
> However, the vibrations are surprisingly detailed – you can feel the
> difference quite clearly between say for example the sound of a bass drum
> and a tune played on a bass guitar.
> 
> 
> 
> I’m sticking with music that I know in order to be sure of what I’m feeling.
> 
> 
> 
> Interestingly a friend of mine tested it yesterday with a pair of stock
> apple earbuds and he says the music is actually much fuller using the
> basslet.
> 
> Once again my apologies for this long and involved mail.  Please delete if
> not interested.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> André
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Gary Schindler]

The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor 
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind 
people!



-Original Message- 
From: Johnny Angel

Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:

Thanks Mary,

Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and
individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to
connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV
fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon

sells everything I need?


I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.

Thanks again,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi John,

Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign
in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people;
since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do
that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I
honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in,
because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of
stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as
well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but
it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't

use that service.

But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.

Mary

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

[Johnny Angel]

Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary,
> 
> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
sells everything I need?
> 
> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't
use that service.
> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 

Using Tunein Radio app on Win10 64 bits PC

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi friends,

Thais may have  been  discussed earlier and I apologize for repeat but
I need help please.

I have been using Tapin Radio as my radio software on PC but lately I
find they don't add new stations and even where stations exist, many
of them don't work.  I did download tunein radio app on Windows 10 PC
but I am clueless if we could use it.  I found it difficult to begin
with with NVDA latest version.

I would be grateful if someone can help me on list of off it.

Thank you in advance.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Phone: [r] 24223281,
Cell: 9987550614
MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
Skype ID: Ketan

basslet

[André van Deventer]

Hi all

 

I realize this may not be of interest to many so simply delete if you find
it boring.  Hopefully it may be of some interest to someone.

 

I have recently acquired a new product called the basslet.  What this is is
a very small transmitter which connects to any kind of music player with a
socket to which you can connect [ a pair of headphones or in my case  a
cable connecting my two cochlear implants  to the headphone jack of my
iphone.

 

The transmitter then transmits sound to a watch like device  which straps
onto your wrist.  The wrist device then vibrates in frequencies between 128
hz and 10 hz.  It was designed to give people who listen to headphones an
extra bass experience which cheaper headphones cannot provide.

My situation is a bit different though.  With my last cochlear implant I
lost all frequencies below 100 hz which has a profound impact especially
when listening to music.  You effectively lose all lower sounds which makes
it sound if you are listening to a transistor radio or one of these small
and cheap cd players.

 

I was busy researching intohow to get back some of these lower frequencies
when a friend from the US alerted me to a new device on kickstarter.com
which was the basslet.  This immediately piqued my interest and I thought
that it may be possible to get the lower frequencies back by touch.  However
when  the device finally came on the market I learned to my sorrow that it
it will not be available in SA for a while.  I arranged through someone in
England to buy it for me and it arrived yesterday.

 

Although my initial impressions are very positive, I need to do some more
experiments to see what the full impact of the device will be.  |What is
important to keep in mind is that this is not sound but vibrations.
However, the vibrations are surprisingly detailed – you can feel the
difference quite clearly between say for example the sound of a bass drum
and a tune played on a bass guitar.

 

I’m sticking with music that I know in order to be sure of what I’m feeling.

 

Interestingly a friend of mine tested it yesterday with a pair of stock
apple earbuds and he says the music is actually much fuller using the
basslet.

Once again my apologies for this long and involved mail.  Please delete if
not interested.

 

Regards

André