Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-05 Thread Colin Howard
Greetings, No Yahoo or Google please, have you considered emissives who use mailman? http://www.eMissives.com I have a group set up there and it has a very accessible interface for me, still using windows XP Home and I.E.8. There are loads of member options to use and virtually all are

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-05 Thread Jim Hunt
: Future Of The PC Audio List Greetings, No Yahoo or Google please, have you considered emissives who use mailman? http://www.eMissives.com I have a group set up there and it has a very accessible interface for me, still using windows XP Home and I.E.8. There are loads of member options to use

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-05 Thread Colin Howard
Greetings, Jim Hunt wrote: There is a group that moved away from Emissives because it's currently supposedly having some problems. Supposedly? I am running one and am a member of two others, there are always problems when setting up a group no matter who hostes, at least with Emissives, they

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-05 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I'm sorry to report but this isn't the case with me. Just now I had an email from them but it wasn't good news. In fact there has been no new information since the original enquiry, and all they wanted to know was how my lists are as of right now. On 05/12/2014 15:14, Colin Howard wrote:

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-04 Thread Sunshine
how could yahoo groups suck? On 12/3/2014 12:37 PM, Aidan wrote: Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net wrote: That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-04 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
It sucks in terms of accessibility. It's gotten better but not the same as say Mailman or the new Groups.io site. On 04/12/2014 18:28, Sunshine wrote: how could yahoo groups suck? On 12/3/2014 12:37 PM, Aidan wrote: Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-04 Thread Brian Sackrider
Yahoo groops not work very well because yahoo needs to upgrade their servers when I had atnt they told me thats the reason why I had so many problems with my email. I can't get subscribed to yahoo email list I have been tring to subscribe to the bardtalk list and I don't get a

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Hi all, I did receive one bounce message last night, but after replying to the confirmation I was able to receive messages again. Can't really tell you where to move to. I tried Freelists but what put me off was the admin interface. I was fiddling about with members and ended up unsubscribing

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List yes, googlegroups has become more or less completely inaccessible for screenreader users, and it is extremely annoying. I run a group there, and doing any moderating has become just

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Joe Paton
Hi ton, I have little or no experience of list management software, but what I do have experience of, is the value of this list to me, and other members I am sure. So whatever you do, wherever you take the list, thanks for what you do. Joe On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread covici
as possible. Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List yes, googlegroups

SV: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Brian Olesen
Of The PC Audio List Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Laurence Taylor
As long as it remains an email-based system and doesn't require one to visit a web site all the time, I'll be happy where-ever it is. I'd also mention Groups.IO (www.groups.io) as an alternative provider; it's new, and run by an former Yahoo engineer (who left before the current management of

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Laurence Taylor
Google groups is fine for email subscribers. Their web interface is pretty ghastly though; I don't know what it's like to run a group there. As you didn't say, I take it you've alreday dismissed Yahoo groups? If you haven't, do. -- rgds LAurence

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Scanlon
Yes, I won’ continue to be a member if it goes to a place where you need to read on a web site. That makes it very difficult. From: Laurence Taylor Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:16 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List As long as it remains an email

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Tom Kaufman
, December 03, 2014 11:17 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List As long as it remains an email-based system and doesn't require one to visit a web site all the time, I'll be happy where-ever it is. I'd also mention Groups.IO (www.groups.io) as an alternative

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Curtis Delzer
That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes conditions of the running of them, etc. -- Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Aidan
Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net wrote: That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes conditions of the running of them, etc. -- Curtis Delzer

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I have a group on Yahoogroups as well with the same accessible but clunky interface. On 03/12/2014 18:37, Aidan wrote: Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net wrote: That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-03 Thread Charles Krugman
Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Google groups is fine for email subscribers. Their web interface is pretty ghastly though; I don't know what it's like to run a group there. As you didn't say, I take it you've alreday dismissed Yahoo groups? If you haven't, do. -- rgds

Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Tom
Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Aidan
What about mail man, or is this list currently there? I'm asking as I'm not sure but I find them working well. I don't mind free lists though. On 03/12/2014, Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Sure! Freelist for me sounds great! El 02/12/2014 04:27 p.m., Tom escribió: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Thomas
I think moving to free lists would be a good idea Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Peter Scanlon
What is the problem with Freelists from your point of view? From: Nick Giannak Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Chris Skarstad
Nick is 100% right. Although, I'm hearing some not-so-good things about dreamhost of late, maybe they've improoved, this was quite a while back. I've also stopped dealing with ultrahosts, though, they were ok for a while and then they stopped working and have been nothing but

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread john s
Tom, free list sounds good. earlier, Tom, wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread John Heath
I hope the list remains! It is a great source for information and interesting comments; please keep it, wherever it resides! - Original Message - From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:27 PM Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List Ladies

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Mary Otten
I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that wonderful. That's from the point of view of an end user. I have no idea what it is like for a manager.

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread randy tijerina
did I miss something here? how do I subscribe to this list? At 06:13 PM 12/2/2014, you wrote: I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Charles Krugman
To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain is too

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Hamit Campos
Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:27 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Peter Scanlon
I too vote for Freelists. Please don’t close the list. and as for using Twitter or Facebook for this sort of group, please don’t go that way. P. From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:33 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Future Of The PC Audio List I guess

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
reader users who were moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups. Chuck -Original Message- From: Nick Giannak Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
DreamHost has had growing pains in the past. However, I can honestly say that getting an east coast datacenter was the best thing they ever did, because they could more effectively distribute their resources. I have become fond of DreamHost once again, and I've been with them since 2006. Even

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
... On 12/2/2014 6:02 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote: What is the problem with Freelists from your point of view? From: Nick Giannak Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Bernard
for me. Mike Rochester, NY. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 5:27 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list

RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
, 2014 7:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that wonderful. That's from

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread goshawk on horseback
To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain is too

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Joe Giovanelli
@pc-audio.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 17:27 Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Jed Barton
might as well, sounds good. On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread covici
hostgator is also an option for hosting, I am not sure whether they have mailman or not. Nick Giannak n...@hkcradio.com wrote: Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's

Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups. Chuck -Original Message- From: Nick Giannak Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance