[PD-dev] Re: [PD] Global and Local scope for DSP~

2006-11-06 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! How could I turn on and off DSP of a graph, local patch or object? I know [ ; pd dsp 1 ] message work for the whole pd process... but what if I want for exemple turn on/off a bonk~ object inside a graph on a child process just when I need it? Can't I save memory with this? you will

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo you 2 ! How about a desire branch? Well, if you don't identify those specific parts that are a problem to you, and instead just quote the whole 200k digest, there's not much helping me to comply with your wishes, so I wouldn't have a choice, really. please - not one more branch !!!

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! We already have two devel_0_39, separated not by cvs but by #ifdef and makefiles. Now it's getting somewhat cumbersome for me, but it seems that in addition to that, it's getting somewhat cumbersome for the only person (?) who still works on devel_0_39 outside of DesireData. Well,

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Mathieu Bouchard schrieb: [...] 1. I had the delusion that there were more developers working on devel_0_39, but I hadn't counted. Turned out that it wasn't true. yes, but when there are more and more branches every developer will have it's own one and it's much more difficult

Re: [PD-dev] slowing down dsp function inside perform loop

2006-12-06 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! currently there's no low-priority messaging in Miller's pd version, but there is in the devel branch. It's one of the features that have been there for some time and i'm trying to provide a patch for Miller, so that it can make it into vanilla PD some time in the future. Hopefully the

Re: [PD-dev] slowing down dsp function inside perform loop

2006-12-06 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! and oh, you can have priorities even without threads... and how? Do you mean a bigger blocksize ... ? LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

[PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-07 Thread Georg Holzmann
(ups sorry - this should be for pd-dev) Hallo Hans+list! I just added PDContainer to the build system and have some questions: o) I have to use g++, otherwise I cannot link the binary - is this okay for the compile farm ? o) is it now, with the [declare] object, still necessary to make a

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-07 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! o) I have to use g++, otherwise I cannot link the binary - is this okay for the compile farm ? That's fine. There are common targets for compiling .c, .cc, and .cpp files in externals/Makefile. These work on all platforms and properly handle having all the variables like CFLAGS

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-07 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Are you really sure that it's not a question of using extern C {...}; declarations to turn off overloading of names so that it stays compatible with C ? Thanks Marhieu, that's it! I have to use extern C with all the setup functions! (And I only had one extern C to call the whole

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-07 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Yup, thanks for spotting that. That stuff is not used yet. That will be for compiling shared code as a separate dynamic library, so that things like Gem and PDP can be built as one-class-per-file libdir format. If you have a lot of shared code in PDContainer, then maybe you could

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-08 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Wow, that's great that you have a shared library already! Since Pd-extended is built with gcc on all platforms, porting the build process to other platforms isn't too difficult, its mostly a matter of getting the right flags, which are listed in externals/Makefile. It (should) build

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-08 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! So is there a way how the externals can find the shared library, whithout copying it into a global library path like /usr/lib/ ? It seems that the only way is, to add the /full/path/to/installed/library/directory to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable before starting pd ... I think you

[PD-dev] pd-extended: flatspace, external-libs, aliases

2007-01-12 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans+list! As I added some more externals to the buildsystem now, I have some more questions: 1) flatspace (externals/build/src) : I see there are now a lot of doubled objects there (e.g. zexy, iemlib, iemmatrix, ... is now all in the libdir format) - so I only want to ask if I can

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended: flatspace, external-libs, aliases

2007-01-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! 1) flatspace (externals/build/src) : [...] Günter started that collection because he felt that Pd should have just one carefully controlled global namespace. He doesn't like the namespace stuff, so I just leave flatspace as is so that it can be used as is. The namespace stuff is

Re: [PD-dev] iem16 compilation problem on osx

2007-01-16 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1604140group_id=55736atid=478072 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1604134group_id=55736atid=478072 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1604133group_id=55736atid=478072 Danke THomas !

[PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-23 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! In the last days only mac build logs were sent to the pd-cvs mailinglist. I'm just curios why not the others ? LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-25 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! The script only sends the email if the build fails. The complete logs are on the website if you want to see them. e.g. the log from today says: (see [1]) And one more question: All the new externals I added in the last weeks are not in the windows installers - the I saw that there

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-27 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! And one more question: All the new externals I added in the last weeks are not in the windows installers - the I saw that there is also no Pd-0.40 for windows ... Are there any special things to do to get Pd-0.40-extended for windows ? Get ./configure make working with

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-27 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! The Windows scripts might not send emails, since it's a pain to do that on Windows. Feel free to get that working. How should I get this working ? - I would have to log me into the windows machine ... LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! The Windows scripts might not send emails, since it's a pain to do that on Windows. Feel free to get that working. [...] Get it working on any machine, then check it into CVS. That's what the auto-builds use. Ideally, it would use only software in Cygwin or MinGW. So someone needs

pd-extended windows builds (was: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs)

2007-01-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Because I am currently using an really ugly kludge that should be removed. It is not too hard to get the ./configure make stuff working on Windows, and it has a lot of advantages, so I am not supporting the ugly kludge anymore. Plus, if the ./configure make stuff works on Windows,

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended build logs

2007-01-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Can you point me to the place in cvs where this is done ? - I cannot find it ... I think you are to look in http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/scripts/auto-build/ thanks - I saw it now ... Do the autobuilds run in a specific order ? Then we could e.g. simply download

[PD-dev] Re: pd-extended windows builds

2007-01-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! The ugly kludge is used in the test/RC versions(branch-v0-39-2-extended), just not in 0.40.2 yet (HEAD/MAIN of Pd-extended). I'm not going to port the kludge, it was a mistake to port it from 0.38.4 to 0.39.2, so I am not going to repeat that mistake. Okay ... Have you plans to get

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: Request for dev access

2007-02-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Just to give some numbers: Currently we have 59 developers according to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data and I just saw, that some like said Eric Lyon are still missing - at least I do know *him* personally ;) - so we are already past 60! Yes, but how many developers are

[PD-dev] fix for 0-pager.pd (was Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 24, Issue 24)

2007-02-24 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Because of this error (see below) Pd-Extended didn't install. What is this 0-pager.pd file for and why is it not here ? (is it generated?) However, I added a touch 0-pager-pd in the abstractions Makefile, so it should install correct ... LG Georg install -p

[PD-dev] Pd-Extended help path

2007-02-24 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! ATM the help path system does not work for Pd-Extended (at least on linux). All the helpfiles are installed in /5.reference/externalname, but pd automatically searches in extra/externalname. So there are 2 possibilities to fix this: 1) we also have to add all /5.reference/externalname

[PD-dev] vbap in cvs

2007-03-13 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo devs! Does it have any sense, that the following files are in the vbap cvs directory: define_loudspeakers.pd_irix6 vbap.pd_irix6 If there are no objections I will remove them ! LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] vbap in cvs

2007-03-14 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Peter+Hans! Yeah, they aren't hurting anything, they've been there a looong time. So might as well keep them. Yes, but IMHO the cvs is not here for binaries ! (and then why only vbap?) But however, it's not that important ... LG Georg ___

Re: [PD-dev] iem_matrix

2007-03-19 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! just to make sure: iem_matrix is totally deprecated in favour of iemmatrix. it should not be added to the pd-extended build-system. instead it should be removed from the pd-extended build-system. (i don't want to break the build-system so i won't do it ;-)) Yes I know - but I need it

Re: [PD-dev] iem_matrix

2007-03-19 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! i think all of the iem_matrix objects are covered by iemmatrix. basically all objects in iem_matrix are specialized versions of [mtx_*~]. however, i believe that [mtx_*~] is now so optimized, that you will not gain anything from using the specialized versions, but you lose a lot of

[PD-dev] iem_t3 osx linking problem

2007-04-01 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Has anyone of the osx developer an idea, why there are linking problems on osx (and only osx) with iem_t3 lib (see below) ? I have not really an idea ... Thanks LG Georg cc -DPD -ftree-vectorize -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2 -fast -fPIC -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1718972 ] iem16 not building on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! C:/msys/1.0/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem16/src/iem16_array.o: In function `tab16write_float':C:/msys/1.0/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/externals/iem16/src/iem16_ar ray.c:135: undefined reference to `_imp__table16_getarray16' As far as I can see the function

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1718972 ] iem16 not building on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! try compiling iem16 as library Well, that's for pd extended - so it should not be a library ... LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1718972 ] iem16 not building on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans! IOhannes just told me that he was not able to compile it on windows ... so I think you have to remove it from the windows builds ... LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

[PD-dev] iem16 problem

2007-05-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo IOhannes! All the iem16 stuff does not work for me - don't know why ... It does not find the array although I think I made it in a correct way ... E.g. in iem16_array.c, line 25: if (!(a = (t_table16 *)pd_findbyclass(x-x_arrayname, table16_class))) error(%s: no such array,

Re: [PD-dev] iem16 problem

2007-05-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! yes: compile iem16 as a library! Well, I tried it as library ... seriously: afair, table16_class is defined static therefore the objects [table16], [tab16_read] and [tab16_write] (or however they are called) will refer to different classes with the same name; or something like this

Re: [PD-dev] iem16 troubles

2007-05-30 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! just to reiterate myself: i can compile and run iem16 on linux and os-x as a _library_. yes, but also only if you NOT declare table16_class as static, which leads to the compile error on osx ... therefore, if iem16 is to be included in pd-extended, i suggest building it as a

Re: [PD-dev] Pd cvs write access

2007-07-16 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Nathaniel! Can someone please give me write privileges to CVS? (sourceforge username: dosena2) I have some updates for pd/src and pd/portmidi that provide support for sysex on OS X. The changes are extremely local in the sense that only a few lines of code are changed in each

Re: [PD-dev] ask for cvs access

2007-09-08 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! recently I got some practice also in programming graphical widgets for puredata, so here's my request for write access to a directory in cvs. (my sourceforge.net's account name is federico__, like my irc alternative nickname) Fine for me - would be really good to have some more GUIs

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I don't know much about git, but what I have read this would defenitely be an option. Then also synching developer and millers version should be easier if I understood that correctly ? What do the others think ? LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-24 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! actually publishing them. So you can really think of commits as semantic building blocks instead of as publishing. It separates these two ideas nicely. apropos: to the Montreal SVN discussion: Didn't also Miller say, that he wants something like this ? (he also mentioned such a

Re: [PD-dev] Is this possible - List input to inlets other than the leftmost...

2007-11-13 Thread Georg Holzmann
Andy Farnell schrieb: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:50:17 -0600 Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading some of the docs, I got the impression that it is NOT possible to have any subsequent inlets allow for list input? Is this correct? Do you know why this is? I have some ideas that I

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2007-12-18 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Russell ! I really don't intend to start a SCM war here, but has the discussion of switching to using svn on sourceforge instead of cvs ever come up before? This was discussed many many times before and at the pd-convention it was decided to switch to SVN. So yes, this will be done

[PD-dev] pd-meeting at LAC

2008-02-24 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo all! Since there are so many pd people at the Linux Audio Conference next week, should we make something like a developer meeting ? There are already some topics: - pd-extended buildsystem deb packages for debian+ubuntu - should we apply for this years Google Summer of Code and which

Re: [PD-dev] pd-meeting at LAC

2008-02-24 Thread Georg Holzmann
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:55:38PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, let's do it. I get in on Wednesday afternoon and leave on Tuesday afternoon, so I have some time on either end. .hc On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo all! Since there are so many pd people

Re: [PD-dev] [Fwd: Re: finding debian-dependencies of a binary]

2008-03-14 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! i knew that there was a dpkg helpertool to get the package- dependencies of a binary. it's dpkg-shlibdeps Thanks - I included it now in the debian package builder ! We will see if it works ... ;) LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing list

[PD-dev] vamp plugins for PD (GSoC)

2008-03-16 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I just have come over the vamp plugins (http://www.vamp-plugins.org) again. It is a plugin system for feature extraction, audio analysis and is used by the Sonic Visualizer, Ardour, Audacity and others ... There already exist many plugins (see http://www.vamp-plugins.org/download.html

Re: [PD-dev] vamp plugins for PD (GSoC)

2008-03-16 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Certainly the aubio functionality and the libxtract functionality (which gives some 50 features), are already available to Pd as an external (no need for a plugin host). Yes, I have seen that. For these two libraries it's of course better to use the direct bindings Although,

Re: [PD-dev] vamp plugins for PD (GSoC)

2008-03-17 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Yes, it would be great if some improvements got made to libxtract as a 'side effect' of the Pd GSoC! Something that might be interesting would be a set of MIR-inspired abstractions that use the libxtract/aubio bindings + the Pd machine learning objects ([knn], [ann_mlp], [ann_som]) to

Re: [PD-dev] we now have Pd on Android!

2010-07-20 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans! Very nice ;) ! Do you maybe know the minimal Android (SDK) version where this should run ? In the AndroidManifest file it says android:minSdkVersion=7, which is Android 2.1 - does it really require such a high version ? Thanks, LG Georg

Re: [PD-dev] we now have Pd on Android!

2010-07-20 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! It now supports 1.6, try it out and let us know how it works for you. This was fast - I will try it ! LG Georg .hc On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo Hans! Very nice ;) ! Do you maybe know the minimal Android (SDK) version where this should run