Re: [PD-dev] add a new tcl file to pd source [was: recentfiles_list explanation]

2011-03-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Good news! Add the file here, like it sounds like you already have: pd/tcl/Makefile.am pd/po/Makefile.am Then manually edit pkgIndex.tcl, I haven't had good luck with pkg_mkIndex.tcl. .hc On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:46 PM, yvan volochine wrote: hi as my work on recent files is nearly

Re: [PD-dev] integrating pdlua into Pd-extended

2011-03-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Martin, I think you could put different pkg-config lines in the per-OS section of the Makefile, and that would work for differences between Debian/ Ubuntu, Mac OS X, and Windows liblua. That won't help if different GNU/Linux distros have different names for the lib tho. .hc On Mar 18,

Re: [PD-dev] add a new tcl file to pd source [was: recentfiles_list explanation]

2011-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 19, 2011, at 2:54 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 03/18/2011 06:16 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Good news! Add the file here, like it sounds like you already have: pd/tcl/Makefile.am pd/po/Makefile.am Then manually edit pkgIndex.tcl, I haven't had good luck with pkg_mkIndex.tcl

Re: [PD-dev] add a new tcl file to pd source [was: recentfiles_list explanation]

2011-03-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 22, 2011, at 12:11 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 03/20/2011 04:41 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 19, 2011, at 2:54 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 03/18/2011 06:16 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Good news! Add the file here, like it sounds like you already have: pd/tcl

Re: [PD-dev] canvas class polymorphism

2011-03-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
What's the end goal here? You want an object that acts like a t_canvas/ t_glist? .hc On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Charles Henry wrote: I've been working through my CUDA Pd project, and I ran into the problem of making externals that copy the canvas class. My first idea was that I wanted

Re: [PD-dev] canvas class polymorphism

2011-03-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
. Chuck On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: What's the end goal here? You want an object that acts like a t_canvas/t_glist? .hc On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Charles Henry wrote: I've been working through my CUDA Pd project, and I ran into the problem

Re: [PD-dev] read a *.plist array in tcl

2011-03-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 19:43 +0100, yvan volochine wrote: hi when reading from a *.plist file in tcl, if the value asked is an array, I get a string: if {![catch {exec defaults read org.puredata $akey} arr]} { puts $arr } // this string is printed ( foo, bar ) is there any

Re: [PD-dev] read a *.plist array in tcl

2011-03-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:56 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 03/25/2011 05:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 19:43 +0100, yvan volochine wrote: hi when reading from a *.plist file in tcl, if the value asked is an array, I get a string: if {![catch {exec defaults read

Re: [PD-dev] integrating pdlua into Pd-extended

2011-03-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
should build lua as well, like portaudio, or should the dll be put in pd/bin, like pthreads.dll? Martin On 2011-03-18 23:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Martin, I think you could put different pkg-config lines in the per-OS section of the Makefile, and that would work for differences

Re: [PD-dev] integrating pdlua into Pd-extended

2011-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
20:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, we can build Lua on Windows and install it into the MinGW path. That's how the rest of the libraries are currently handled. Then the installer grabs the .dlls from the MinGW install path. Have you successfully built Lua on Windows? If so, let me know

Re: [PD-dev] integrating pdlua into Pd-extended

2011-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
/local/lib or /usr/local/lib/lua might work. The lua wiki seems to imply that you should link against the dll. I'll change it to -llua first as that seems consistent with the rest of the MinGW Pd build. Martin On 2011-03-27 12:25, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hmm, turns out it was already

Re: [PD-dev] integrating pdlua into Pd-extended

2011-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
expose only what was specified to be exported. Martin On 2011-03-27 22:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think the key is to generate the liblua51.dll.a file using the instructions that were just posted, and stick that into the pdlua folder, set -L., then -llua51 should just work. The .dll.a

Re: [PD-dev] gtk-open-plugin update

2011-04-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Lorenzo, I cc'ed pd-dev since this could be generally useful discussion. The save thing works a fair amount different than open, and the messages are hidden within the pd - pd-gui communications. The place to start in finding the File-Save function is to look at what the File-Save or

Re: [PD-dev] erase object text

2011-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 2, 2011, at 11:57 AM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/02/2011 05:38 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/01/2011 11:29 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/01/2011 10:43 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Can't be done -- the actual text editing is done in Pd and the TCL code is just to display the

Re: [PD-dev] submitting gui-plugins

2011-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think its best to keep them separate, so people can easily mix-n- match what they want, IMHO. Looking forward to trying the auto- completion plugin! .hc On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:15 AM, yvan volochine wrote: hi, I have a couple of gui-plugins[*] I'd like to submit but I'm afraid I

Re: [PD-dev] flext and gnu/windows - 'undefined reference' with pd global vars?

2011-04-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
'undefined reference' generally means that the linker has found symbols in the .o files that it can't find a reference to. I.e. take the function 'foo', if myobject.o uses foo() from the bar lib, and the bar lib is not including the linking, because its not specified or not in the lib

Re: [PD-dev] tcl registry pd-0.43

2011-04-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
According to the Tcl/Tk 8.4 docs, it should be included. What if you just try to use 'registry' without the 'package require registry'? http://tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/registry.htm .hc On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:19 AM, yvan volochine wrote: hi, I use `package require registry' in a

Re: [PD-dev] [flext] mingw/autotools/libtool, some success (flext and gnu/windows - 'undefined reference' with pd global vars?)

2011-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: the bottom line, mingw + autotools is some kinda headache! so where to now? Hi, doesn't the pd build system use mingw and autotools? It must have the same problems, or a solution for it, no? gr~~~ mingw and autotools seems to work fine for

Re: [PD-dev] [flext] mingw/autotools/libtool, some success (flext and gnu/windows - 'undefined reference' with pd global vars?)

2011-04-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 9, 2011, at 2:27 AM, dmotd wrote: On 04/09/2011 03:48 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: hello, - dmotdinaudi...@simplesuperlativ.es a écrit : and the source of my original problem, milllers pd.dll breaking the gnu linker likely will effect building other libs under mingw. did you

Re: [PD-dev] tcl registry pd-0.43

2011-04-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:13 AM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/06/2011 08:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: According to the Tcl/Tk 8.4 docs, it should be included. What if you just try to use 'registry' without the 'package require registry'? http://tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/registry.htm

Re: [PD-dev] tcl registry pd-0.43

2011-04-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:13 AM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/06/2011 08:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: According to the Tcl/Tk 8.4 docs, it should be included. What if you just try to use 'registry' without the 'package require registry'? http://tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/registry.htm

Re: [PD-dev] tcl registry pd-0.43

2011-04-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
used. I have to crank up my PC anyway to see about a bug report (asio4all seems not to work with 0.43) but probably won't be able to get to it this weekend - I have lots of bureaucrap awaiting me... cheers Miller On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:31:30PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote

Re: [PD-dev] tcl registry pd-0.43

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:38 AM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/11/2011 06:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: While avoiding bloat is a worthy goal, it seems to me that a good place to draw that line is at the standard Tcl/Tk. I don't think adding those libs will add a lot, but it does mean

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Most vanilla objects are split out into their own 'vanilla' lib right now. So if you don't add vanilla/list and vanilla to the libraries loaded by default, they won't be loaded. You can do [import vanilla/list vanilla] to quickly try a patch without changing your prefs. .hc On Apr

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
wrote: of course, I saw that being discussed some days ago. ok. On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:32:19 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Most vanilla objects are split out into their own 'vanilla' lib right now. So if you don't add vanilla/list and vanilla to the libraries loaded

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
on mobile phones and smaller computers. .hc On Apr 11, 2011, at 12:59 PM, João Pais wrote: of course, I saw that being discussed some days ago. ok. On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:32:19 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Most vanilla objects are split out into their own 'vanilla

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Part of the idea is that people can make CPU-optimized versions of 'vanilla' and load them as they need them. So they shouldn't be locked in to using 'vanilla', or I would have just left those objects built-in. .hc On Apr 11, 2011, at 7:31 PM, João Pais wrote: you mean this lib

[PD-dev] string/blob type back in Pd-extended 0.43

2011-04-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI: Using the magic of meld, git gui, and gitk, I have refactored Martin's string/blob patch against pd 0.43.0 and included it into Pd- extended 0.43 git. .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military

[PD-dev] big Pd-extended 0.43 updates

2011-04-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
A few updates on Pd-extended 0.43 from work I did yesterday, last night: - just finally merged in all the relevant changes from Pd-extended 0.42 into the pd-extended.git, so tonight's build should include these changes, including Martin's string patch - I merged in a couple things from

Re: [PD-dev] Receive from Pd into tcl plugin

2011-04-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
(s) they would like to listen for. That would make things pretty flexible and allow multiple plugins to use the functionality too. Cheers, Chris. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:21:06PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The easiest way is to create a proc in `pd-gui`, then bind a function

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:21 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/2011 01:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Part of the idea is that people can make CPU-optimized versions of 'vanilla' and load them as they need them. So they shouldn't

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 19:09 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2011 05:11 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That is not quite a good analogy. The existing method was there: a folder that was searched by default called path/to/pd

Re: [PD-dev] working pd-ext 0.43 build on windows?

2011-04-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
=- ... Martin On 2011-04-11 18:53, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Try loading 'libdir' as the first lib. .hc On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:32 PM, João Pais wrote: hmm, vanilla and vanilla/list are already in the startup libs of pd. and after that when trying import them, they say [import]: can't load

Re: [PD-dev] compiling externals on linux

2011-04-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The library template should make your life easier: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate With it, you can build on Windows/MinGW,Windows/Cygwin, GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, Android, iPhoneOS... .hc On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:15 +0100, Andrew Hassall a.r.hass...@gmail.com wrote: I've been

Re: [PD-dev] Pure data sound effect library running on iOS app

2011-05-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I answered there: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6047390/pure-data-sound-effect-library-running-on-iphone/6047556#6047556 Basically, you want http://gitorious.org/pdlib/ .hc On May 18, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Tomas Čerkasas wrote: Dear All, i'll just repeat the question I've asked in

Re: [PD-dev] hello-hallo-salut-konichiwa-ciao-hola-messalame

2011-05-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its defintiely been long enough for the lazy consensus. If you are still interesting, post your sourceforge account name, and I'll add you. .hc On May 6, 2011, at 10:37 AM, yvan volochine wrote: hi, I'd like to join the Pure-Data developers team on sf.net. I am a musician (and

Re: [PD-dev] hello-hallo-salut-konichiwa-ciao-hola-messalame

2011-05-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 27, 2011, at 12:02 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 05/27/2011 05:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Its defintiely been long enough for the lazy consensus. If you are still interesting, post your sourceforge account name, and I'll add you. cool =) my username: elgusanorojo cheers

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5

2011-05-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
macosx104-powerpc should be ok now, but I botched the upgrade on the ubuntu machine, so its in an odd state until I can get physical access to the machine. That should happen tomorrow morning. .hc On May 30, 2011, at 9:11 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [PD-dev] pd-exxtended repo?

2011-06-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The repos are all listed here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource For details on the Pd-extended git workflow that I use, see the Pd- extended section of this: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GitWorkflows .hc On Jun 2, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Albert Graef wrote: Where is the

Re: [PD-dev] pd-exxtended repo?

2011-06-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Oops, sorry, I messed up the post-receive hooks stuff. It should be fixed now, and commits should be emailed to pd-cvs also. .hc On Jun 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Albert Graef wrote: On 06/03/2011 04:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The repos are all listed here: http://puredata.info

Re: [PD-dev] pd-exxtended repo?

2011-06-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 3, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Albert Graef wrote: On 06/03/2011 10:47 PM, Albert Graef wrote: On 06/03/2011 09:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Oops, sorry, I messed up the post-receive hooks stuff. It should be fixed now, and commits should be emailed to pd-cvs also. Thanks, it works

[PD-dev] commit emails from git: pure-data and pd-extended

2011-06-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just setup a 'post-receive' hook in both 'pure-data' and 'pd- extended.git' git repos on SourceForge. This hook sends the commits to pd-...@iem.at to join the SVN emails as well. Let me know if this is a problem for anyone. I messed up the pd- extended.git one before, but now that that

Re: [PD-dev] New externals

2011-06-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Brian, Welcome, glad to see more libraries being produced. One thing that should make your life a lot easier is using the library template. It handles building on GNU/Linux, all Debian flavors (kFreeBSD, etc), Mac OS X Universal, Windows/MinGW and Windows/Cygwin. iOS and Android are

[PD-dev] web portal for builds (jenkins)

2011-06-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So my current job involved setting up a Jenkins build automation server, so I figured I could also set one up for Pd as well. The nice thing about it is that all the config can be done with the web interface. So that means I can give certain devs their own accounts so they can setup and manage

Re: [PD-dev] control backspace inside tk entry

2011-06-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 10, 2011, at 2:03 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] control backspace inside tk entry To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev pd-dev@iem.at Date

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-06-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, I think its known its broken on Windows. I'll try to get to it when I can, but with a baby coming soon, that might not happen for a bit. Patches definitely welcome, if anyone figures it out! .hc On Jun 19, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Tris Whyte wrote: hello people, is it known that the

Re: [PD-dev] revised search-plugin.tcl

2011-06-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's quite nice, looks and works very well. You've taken my sketch and made it something far beyond what it was originally. One thing, I notice that for objects' help files, you strip the paths. That make sense, except it does the same for all_about* patches. Also, that could get

Re: [PD-dev] revised search-plugin.tcl

2011-06-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 20, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] revised search-plugin.tcl To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev pd-dev@iem.at Date: Monday, June

Re: [PD-dev] revised search-plugin.tcl

2011-06-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 24, 2011, at 4:36 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-06-23 01:05, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think separating on by dir to get a distinction between root/user accessible libraries won't work, like if I compile pd in ~/newest- vanilla/ and search for included libs. (Plus

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-06-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, it was a weird one, I think its fixed, please try it and let me know. .hc On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:51 +0100, Tris Whyte slippyc...@yahoo.com wrote: damn i wish i could code, maybe i should try and build it on vista, have successfully built it on linux before, i would just use the linux

[PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that the core Pd docs (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/doc/*) are split out into a separate Debian package, I think it could make sense to package the PDDP docs in a kind of mirror or replacement package. Something like pddp-doc. Jonathan, in particular, I was thinking that since you have wanted to work

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Mon, 6/27/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs To: pd-dev@iem.at Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 9:21 PM Now that the core Pd docs (i.e

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 28

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 28

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm already kind of doing that with pd-l2ork. I've revised Miller's control/audio/ds tutorials. Pd-l2ork has fixed the crasher bug when a patch closes itself, so I've got a navigation toolbar in those tutorials that is currently

Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs

2011-06-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 28, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] packaging the pddp docs To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 28

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-06-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
compiled, I could figure out why. - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Ok, it was a weird one, I think its fixed, please try it and let me know. .hc On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:51 +0100, Tris Whyte slippyc...@yahoo.com wrote: damn i wish i could code, maybe i should try and build

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-06-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
- Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Yeah, that's a annoyance of that build system. I think you need to make sure your source dir is called 'pd', not something like 'pure- data' or 'pure-data.git'. We really should finalize the configure.ac and Makefile.am for MinGW. Its quite close

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:08 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/01/2011 08:40 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: needs to figure out how to do the final linking using g++ to link the C ++ ASIO files and C files from the rest.

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:36 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/01/2011 06:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: the trick to use g++ for linking, is to use a dummy .cpp file, so autotools will automatically choose g

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
+0200, IOhannes m zmölnig On 07/01/2011 06:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: the trick to use g++ for linking, is to use a dummy .cpp file, so autotools will automatically choose g++. something like: snip nodist_EXTRA_pd_SOURCES= if PORTAUDIO nodist_EXTRA_pd_SOURCES += dummy.cpp endif

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 3, 2011, at 3:31 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Ah, right, supporting LTLIBRARIES would be a bigger reorg. Any luck with the LD=$(CXX) option? Still same error, this is exactly like this one: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
read in gnu manuals, automake automatically set g++ for cpp files so there is no need to set CC. - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : On Jul 3, 2011, at 3:31 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Ah, right, supporting LTLIBRARIES would

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-05 13:04, Patrice Colet wrote: I've removed this in configure.ac: # ASIO is a C++ library, so if its included, then use g++ to build CC=g++ compiles fine, only pd.exe is not

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
snip it's seems closer - IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 17:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: We have the opposite problem than that automake hack is trying to solve. When ASIO is including, then everything

Re: [PD-dev] 10.6 64bit autobuild computer will be inaccessible until monday

2011-07-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
As long as there is a build tonight, which there should be, we should have a working 10.6 build, so its fine by me. Thanks for the update! .hc On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Max wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 dear devs, chaos.medien.uni-weimar.de will most probably

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:22 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-11 19:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That makes me think so ./configure is finding libdl find, and then setting HAVE_LIBDL, and then the code

Re: [PD-dev] replace spaces in list class names with hyphens

2011-07-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:18 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2011 11:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I've got a working tooltip prototype going, and I just noticed that all the list classes screw up things on the tcl side, because with list

Re: [PD-dev] replace spaces in list class names with hyphens

2011-07-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Besides [list], what are other exceptions to the rule of the class being all characters before the first space? It might just be easier to code in an exception for [list]. .hc On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: THere isn't a 1-to-1 correspondence between the string

[PD-dev] source repo for pd_l2ork

2011-07-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Is there any source repo like git or SVN for pd_l2ork? Having that would make collaboration much easier. If there isn't already something, I'd recommend starting a git repo for the 'pd' core part based on the pure-data git starting at 0.42.6. That'll also have the benefit of making it

Re: [PD-dev] amd64 pdextended nightly-builds

2011-07-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This is great, Pierre! The first part is easy, I added your IP to the 'hosts allow' list for uploaders. Next time the script runs, it should upload. One minor glitch, the dates are based on NYC/Eastern time, so you have to make sure your auto-build doesn't try to upload before

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-07-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : I've got asio linking with g++ working, this is explained in here: http://www.mail-archive.com/libtool@gnu.org/msg11308.html # ASIO needs to go after PORTAUDIO in order for it to link

Re: [PD-dev] preparing phasor~Co. for double precision Pd

2011-07-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Katya, I'm very happy you're working on this, I think its a big and very valuable step for Pd for many reasons. For me, things like accessing large arrays and also working with UNIX timestamps and other large integers directly, make Pd a lot easier in cases that touch on those

Re: [PD-dev] amd64 pdextended nightly-builds

2011-07-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Pierre Mersadier wrote: Hi HansChristoph, Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 14:04 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Ok, its posting now on the auto-builds page :) .hc I now trying to work with pbuilder which seems to be a very good tool to build debian

Re: [PD-dev] amd64 pdextended nightly-builds

2011-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Pierre Mersadier wrote: Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 19:42 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Pierre Mersadier wrote: Hi HansChristoph, Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 14:04 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Ok, its posting

Re: [PD-dev] menu checkbutton

2011-07-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, I think the grey85 was an attempt to match the default menu background. I don't quite remember. It seems to have no effect on Mac OS X. I'd be fine with black or default, I suppose. .hc On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, What is the reason the Editmode

[PD-dev] tracker spam

2011-08-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
How about turning off anonymous posting on the bug/patch/feature trackers? The spam rate is increasing, and the anonymous bug reports are either people who forgot to login, or otherwise quite low quality. .hc Begin forwarded message: From: SourceForge.net nore...@sourceforge.net Date:

Re: [PD-dev] tracker spam

2011-08-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/05/2011 05:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: How about turning off anonymous posting on the bug/patch/feature trackers? The spam rate is increasing, and the anonymous bug reports are either people who forgot to login

Re: [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
see it now inside canvas_vis... too bad canvas' window subcommand doesn't have something like pack's -in option... But I guess I could make a toplevel checkbutton widget and just manually clone it. -Jonathan From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com To: Hans- Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

Re: [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
message is one example. tkwdigets is not complete yet, so this is not fully in there. I think the [entry] in github does this kind of stuff. .hc Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev List pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:54

Re: [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
of stuff. .hc Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-dev List pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: tkwidgets Hey Jonathan, I'm cc'ing pd-dev since this is a topic that could interest others and others could

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I tried these patches a bit but haven't fully tested them yet. But I did just finish updating the MinGW setup, there have been big improvements in the last 2 years since I looked last. The nicest is 'mingw-get' for installing packages :) Here's the documentation on the whole setup, it

Re: [PD-dev] Status of GUI rewrite?

2011-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Stephen, The pd-gui-rewrite effort has been entirely folded into Miller's pure- data.git and is included in the 0.43 release. The dev/PdGuiRewrite page is there for historical interest. You can find out more about one big feature of this effort in the GUI Plugins section of the docs:

Re: [PD-dev] Status of GUI rewrite?

2011-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: Oh, hey - Thanks for bringing me up to date : ) The pd-gui-rewrite effort has been entirely folded into Miller's pure-data.git and is included in the 0.43 release. Oh, ok - I hadn't stumbled across the gui plugin setup yet - that's cool

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-08-20 21:21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I tried these patches a bit but haven't fully tested them yet. But I did just finish updating the MinGW setup, there have been big improvements in the last 2 years since I looked last

Re: [PD-dev] Status of GUI rewrite?

2011-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: You can increase the font size which will make the boxes bigger. Also, you might like the new inlet/outlet highlighting that's in Pd- extended 0.43 and pd-l2ork. The inlets and outlets are tagged using Tk tags, so you should be able to

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Oops, I just noticed one unneeded line in the patch I sent you: +#pd_LINK = $(CXXLINK) There is no need to add a line of code that is comment out :) .hc On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey patco, I boiled down your patch set into this stripped down version

Re: [PD-dev] Status of GUI rewrite?

2011-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: You can increase the font size which will make the boxes bigger. Also, you might like the new inlet/outlet highlighting that's in Pd- extended 0.43 and pd-l2ork. The inlets and outlets are tagged using Tk tags, so you should be able to

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Oops, I just noticed one unneeded line in the patch I sent you: +#pd_LINK = $(CXXLINK) There is no need to add a line of code that is comment out :) Hi Hans, I had to add this line

[PD-dev] New Windows/MinGW Build setup

2011-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just finished rebuilding the MinGW/MSYS setup on the Windows build server using the new mingw-get utility and the latest MinGW and MSYS. There has been big improvements in MinGW in the past couple of years, so its getting a lot easier to set everything up. You can do it yourself

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Oops, I just noticed one unneeded line in the patch I sent you: +#pd_LINK = $(CXXLINK) There is no need to add a line of code that is comment out :) .hc I've successfully compiled

Re: [PD-dev] Pdextended 0.43.1 and vista

2011-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at a écrit : Oops, I just noticed one unneeded line in the patch I sent you: +#pd_LINK

[PD-dev] X paste fix breaks copy-paste within Pd

2011-08-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Miller, I was just checking out your recent commits. The X-paste fix does indeed fix selection click-pasting, but it breaks regular old copy-pasting with in Pd. For example: 1. make an object box with foo in it 2. select foo and hit Ctrl-C or Edit-Copy 3. create a blank object box 4. hit

Re: [PD-dev] LibraryTemplate on 10.6.8

2011-08-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Louis-Philippe, Pd-extended is built every night on 10.6.8, and there are many libs that are included that are built using the Library Template. You can see the build log from today here, that's single arch:

Re: [PD-dev] iemlib help patch revisions

2011-08-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 28, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: From: IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] iemlib help patch revisions On 08/28/2011 12:31 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, I

Re: [PD-dev] Xcode 4: Debug pd-external

2011-08-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't use Xcode, so I don't know specifics. My guess is that you have to also add 'pd' itself. Pd is two processes 'pd-gui' and 'pd'. On Mac OS X, the 'pd-gui' process is represented by Pd-extended.app (in Contents/MacOS/Pd-extended). You probably need to also add 'pd', which is

Re: [PD-dev] Xcode 4: Debug pd-external

2011-08-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
With 0.42.5, most of the command line flags were fixed in Pd-extended, in 0.43 its definitely fixed. .hc On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 22:53 +0200, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi, i haven't used Xcode4 yet. For older versions i don't define the application bundle as executable, but rather the unix program,

[PD-dev] pd-extended 0.43 release push

2011-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I was thinking that now would be a good time to start a release cycle for Pd-extended 0.43. There is a ton of really useful new stuff in the editor with the new gui, plugins, etc. So I'm thinking I'll delay some of the library work I've been doing, and revert to the 0.42.5 behavior of loading a

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended 0.43 release push

2011-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The nightly builds are on a separate server: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ .hc On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 16:54 +, Marc D. Demers wrote: Hi Hans, I will be glad to tried out the new PD-extended version but I've been unable to connect to the PD site for the past three days...

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended 0.43 release push

2011-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
that then get pulled in the build. Maybe you could see when certain libraries have been changed and update them on your own machine. Along the idea of how macports works. Again, apologies if this is a really stupid question. Cheers, Joe On 13 September 2011 17:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner h

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