[PD-dev] diff patches how-to

2007-10-15 Thread Steffen Juul
Hey, Is there a std. way to make diff patches (in the Pd world)? If so is it written down somewhere? I've searched the /doc/dev and /dev sections of puredata.(info|org) with no luck. Thanks. ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X Universal Builds

2007-10-24 Thread Steffen Juul
On 23/10/2007, at 22.55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Anyone know anything about Mac OS X Universal builds? The Pd- extended and Pd build systems need to be updated to a sane, Mac OS X- style universal build system. I consider it a feature that they are separate.

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-27 Thread Steffen Juul
On 28/10/2007, at 1.28, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 27, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Also, I don't switch to Miller's next version till he's done with the bugfix releases. It's a lot of

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X Universal Builds

2007-10-28 Thread Steffen Juul
On 26/10/2007, at 19.43, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 23/10/2007, at 22.55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Anyone know anything about Mac OS X Universal builds? The Pd- extended and Pd build systems need to be updated to a sane, Mac

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-29 Thread Steffen Juul
On 28/10/2007, at 1.35, Steffen Juul wrote: I've been meaning to try that for quite some time. That and then apply some of the patches that i like. We'll see how it goes, when it goes. I had success building pd-0.41-0test06 for Intel Mac OS X. What I did was: - Made the following symlinks

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-29 Thread Steffen Juul
On 29/10/2007, at 14.07, Frank Barknecht wrote: Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: This was the building part. Now the apply patches part. Before i blast it all i'd like to know if i could be of any help wrt pd- extended? Is the next Pd-extended aimaed at the 0.41 version of Pd

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-29 Thread Steffen Juul
On 29/10/2007, at 16.10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: First off, you'll have much better luck with this Tcl/Tk than the Apple ones. The included ones are quite old, this is what I just upgraded the auto-builds to: http://idmi.poly.edu/pdlab/tcltk/ Not asking where you dug that up.

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-30 Thread Steffen Juul
On 29/10/2007, at 16.10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since you are interested in the GUI, sounds like it would be best if you worked on that. For example, a real preferences pane with tabs on it would be really nice. I'll happily help you make that happen, if you interested. The

[PD-dev] cvs update time

2007-11-13 Thread Steffen Juul
I update my copy of the CVS repo from time to time, at least one each two weeks. But it always take what feels quite a while even though there is not much to update (judged my the amount of activity on pd- cvs list). I just meassured it to 4m30.791s this time. Question(s). Is that normal?

Re: [PD-dev] ui development / desiredata?

2008-01-25 Thread Steffen Juul
On 25/01/2008, at 21.17, chris clepper wrote: On OSX the bottom right of the patcher window can be below the bottom of the screen - even at massive resolutions (1536 lines!). This makes it impossible to resize the window without manually editing the patch text. Some sort of check for

Re: [PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions in trunk/abstractions

2008-03-05 Thread Steffen Juul
On 04/03/2008, at 18.21, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: patrick wrote: hi IOhannes, why not just use an external reference? we would like to include pdmtl abstractions in the auto-build. would it be possible with an external reference? yes. when doing a checkout, external references

Re: [PD-dev] building from svn vanilla

2008-03-26 Thread Steffen Juul
On 26/03/2008, at 16.40, David Plans Casal wrote: Can people (Miller?) let me know what Tcl/Tk versions they are using to build from SVN trunk on OSX 10.5? Brandon? '8.4.7 a' says Pd.app/Contents/version.plist in the build Miller distributes. Same as the one shipped with Tiger.

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-11 Thread Steffen Juul
On 10/04/2008, at 16.51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I generally try installing all of the dependencies from 'stable', then switch to 'unstable' for the rest. If an 'unstable' package adds more dependencies, then I switch back to 'stable' and try building them all there, then switch back

Re: [PD-dev] changing [declare -stdpath] behavior

2008-05-29 Thread Steffen Juul
I agree with Roman. Just got a question, below. On 29/05/2008, at 0.34, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think the same would apply to -stdlib: [declare -stdlib somedir] How does that work when, say, Gem is installed into '/path/to/pd/ extra/Gem/Gem.platform'? Is it [declare -stdlib Gem/Gem]

Re: [PD-dev] please remove old pdlua from SVN

2008-06-23 Thread Steffen Juul
On Mon, June 23, 2008 2:31 pm, Roman Haefeli wrote: i would like to be able to check out as much as possible from the same repository. i think, that is also the main goal of pd-svn, isn't it? I cann't answer that question, which relate very mush to the thread svn:externals, pd-extended, SVN

Re: [PD-dev] distributing libraries (was Re: svn:externals sucks, or tracking changes in Gem)

2008-09-11 Thread Steffen Juul
On 11/09/2008, at 10.08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: what does this tell us? grumpy-mode on. Nothing specifically. Maybe announcing it's existence would help. Maybe the publishing flow is rough. Maybe people don't care to use it. And maybe people don't care to use puredata.info, which

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel status report

2009-01-07 Thread Steffen Juul
This is a follow up to the other mail on pd-list regarding the same. I think it makes sense to carry on on pd-dev, hence i just respond to this email. On Wed, January 7, 2009 1:14 am, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If anyone is ready to join in, there are many things that people could work on:

Re: [PD-dev] Reminder Pd-devel IRC meeting Feb 13 (tomorrow)

2009-02-12 Thread Steffen Juul
On 12/02/2009, at 22.21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Reminder! Pd-devel meeting tomorrow (Feb 13, 2009-02-13) on IRC will someone log it and share the log? ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel code structure meeting on IRC

2009-02-14 Thread Steffen Juul
On 14/02/2009, at 23.48, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Has the log been posted anywhere yet? I don't think so. I think I have it if no one else has a copy. Please do - i'd like to see it. Maybe http://puredata.info/dev/ pddevel is a good place to stick it.

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Steffen Juul
On 17/02/2009, at 10.12, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i still think that the loading-order in 0.42 is broken by design. Could you elaborate this a bit? Or point me to the relevant archive post? How is the loading order in

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Steffen Juul
On 17/02/2009, at 6.36, Matt Barber wrote: If your patch breaks with a new version, use an older version (...) I totally agree. That's also why i like when things (applications written in Pd or libraries for Pd) have a version number and refer to version numbers of it's dependencies,

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Steffen Juul
On 17/02/2009, at 21.06, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: correct me, if this is wrong, but i understand, that overriding internal classes doesn't work with single-file externals. so the feature of overriding internal classes doesn't and

Re: [PD-dev] deb packages discussion

2009-09-21 Thread Steffen Juul
On 21/09/2009, at 16.59, dmotd wrote: or pehaps pd could go down the path of perl/cpan, php/pear etc, where extra non-base libs are housed in a dedicated on demand server where users can automagically fetch / compile and install extras outside of the confines of a package manager. how much

[PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-24 Thread Steffen Juul
Is the Mac OSX/Intel build made for 10.5? - Thing is it doesn't run on my 10.4 system (with either of the suggested ways except using Fink's Tcl/Tk. I don't know how to investigate which version of Mac OS it's build for. Best. ___ Pd-dev mailing

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Steffen Juul
On 27/09/2009, at 19.37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Right now, the only Mac OS X build machine is a part time lab machine running 10.5, so hence the 10.5 builds. In understand. The newest seam to be 10.6, so 10.4 might be the new 10.3. For 10.4, it should just be a matter of building

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Steffen Juul
On 28/09/2009, at 19.28, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think you need to use the 'unstable' repo for Fink to get libtool2. Check the Fink FAQ. Thanks for you reply. It turns out that using the unstable repo do let Fink install libtool2. I did read the FAQ, but the package database on

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Steffen Juul
On 28/09/2009, at 22.22, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now the problem is: (snip) msgfmt --check --tcl --locale=vi -d . vi.po make[1]: *** No rule to make target `.msg', needed by `all'. Stop. make: *** [locales] Error 2 Clue? Hmm, try running 'make' again? Or 'svn up'? Seems like some

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Steffen Juul
On 29/09/2009, at 0.45, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: Full log at: http://www.pasteit4me.com/41013\ Based on this, it looks like you don't have Fink installed or not in the normal '/sw' ./configure: line 2028: INCLUDES+=-I/sw/include

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-29 Thread Steffen Juul
Thanks for your reply! On 29/09/2009, at 9.46, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Based on this, it looks like you don't have Fink installed or not in the normal '/sw' ./configure: line 2028: INCLUDES+=-I/sw/include: No such file or directory ./configure: line

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-30 Thread Steffen Juul
On 29/09/2009, at 23.45, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: would not. seems you are right at the problematic version :-) meaning that you do seem to have a problematic version of autoconf, Yes, i got it. thanks for investigating, IOhannes! It gets rid of error, but make

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-30 Thread Steffen Juul
On 30/09/2009, at 9.46, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi again Steffen Juul wrote: On 29/09/2009, at 23.45, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: would not. seems you are right at the problematic version :-) meaning that you do seem to have a problematic version of autoconf

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-30 Thread Steffen Juul
On 30/09/2009, at 19.49, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 30/09/2009, at 9.46, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: btw, on a non fink contaminated machine running 10.4 i have autoconf 2.61 installed which can process the configure.ac fine. Ok. I guess i shouldn't have updated

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-10-01 Thread Steffen Juul
On 30/09/2009, at 21.12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: I thinking about fx. the last '.msg'. I feels like a loop that stops one too late. Any version of gettext from Fink will more or less work. ALL_LINGUAS had a trailing space, I

Re: [PD-dev] Tabbed Console plugin

2009-10-05 Thread Steffen Juul
On 02/10/2009, at 20.45, András Murányi wrote: i've attached the first version of a Tabbed Console plugin. The goal is that new messages can be sorted on new tabs by their prefix (the part before the colon). Thanks, could be useful. Just one comment. It doesn't handle lists all that