[PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Lyon
Hi Thomas, In addition to convenience, The benefits of samm~ come from its integration into a system of signal-level triggering, what exactly is the difference of samm~ compared to the long time existing iem t3 objects? t3 uses time tagged triggers, samm~ sends clicks that are not time

[PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Lyon
t3 uses time tagged triggers, samm~ sends clicks that are not time tagged. I see, are there other advantages (cpu-wise maybe)? Since these periodic clicks could also be generated with t3-based abstractions. If anything I would expect t3 to be more cpu-efficient, but the CPU usage of samm~

Re: [PD] cange for symbols/lists?

2007-02-19 Thread hard off
i made a list-change patch. it seems to work as it should, but with my dodgy patching, there is no warranty. list-change.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] nogui and compute audio

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Lewis
Hey there, I'm just moving my PD code onto my (headless) server where I want it to run with no GUI (it uses OSC for input messages and outputs to Icecast). Currently I'm not getting any output from it. I've tried replacing the mp3cast~ with a simple dac~ and plugging some speakers into the

Re: [PD] Re: metro vs. samm~ (Frank Barknecht)

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Eric Lyon hat gesagt: // Eric Lyon wrote: I showed it for both programs. According to my experimentation blocksize can make a big difference for metro in both Pd and MaxMSP. Please see if you have the same result: ... It's not the [metro] that is shaky in your patch, it's the

Re: [PD] cange for symbols/lists?

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Dafydd Hughes hat gesagt: // Dafydd Hughes wrote: Am I extra stupid this morning? Is there a version of [change] that deals with symbols or lists or a way of accomplishing this? My brain is just shutting down... [list]-abs has an abstraction list-compare.pd which compares two lists

Re: [PD] cange for symbols/lists?

2007-02-19 Thread Dafydd Hughes
Yow! Thanks - you guys are angels. cheers dafydd On 2/19/07, hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i made a list-change patch. it seems to work as it should, but with my dodgy patching, there is no warranty. -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass

Re: [PD] fader gain

2007-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi derek as Dafydd mentioned it, i use also a 'squared' scale. it is somehow in the middle of the both extremes 'linear' and 'logarithmic'. linear is a pain, when trying to adjust the volume in the low level area, whereas the 'logarithmic' scale is too accurate in that area. i'd say

Re: [PD] fader gain

2007-02-19 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Roman and Dafydd, squared scale seems to work for what I'm using it for right now. Thanks for the suggestion. If it still needs some tuning, maybe I'll try the squared-square. squarely yours, d. Roman Haefeli wrote: hi derek as Dafydd mentioned it, i use also a 'squared' scale. it is

Re: [PD] Re: metro vs. samm~ (Frank Barknecht)

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: Eric Lyon hat gesagt: // Eric Lyon wrote: I showed it for both programs. According to my experimentation blocksize can make a big difference for metro in both Pd and MaxMSP. Please see if you have the same result: ... It's

Re: [PD] cange for symbols/lists?

2007-02-19 Thread dafydd hughes
Hey Frank This looks lovely! Thanks cheers dafydd On 2/19/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Dafydd Hughes hat gesagt: // Dafydd Hughes wrote: Am I extra stupid this morning? Is there a version of [change] that deals with symbols or lists or a way of accomplishing this?

[PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Lewis
Hey there, I'm trying to use mp3cast~ with Icecast 1. Initially I had a patch where the settings messages ('passwd', 'mountpoint', etc.) for the mp3cast~ were sent when the patch was loaded and the 'connect' and 'disconnect' messages were sent in response to other events. In this setup I got

Re: [PD] measuring distance between speaker and microphon

2007-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi mikka thank you very much for all that detailed information and sorry for my late reply. i didn't have too much time and i really wanted to have a closer look at this before answering. i am on linux, so i couldn't test your external. but from what you describe in your mail, it follows a

[PD] Creb and PDP libraries incomplete in 39 extended on MacIntel 10.4.8

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Pasquesi
Greetings. Below is cut from my PD window: I use - MAc OS 10.4.8, Intel minimac.1.83 duo. I have installed Dev tools, Fink and x11 to help me along the way. I also use a portable g4 (500 Mhz) on OSX10.3.5 to test things on. It has Dev tools and x11 (unfinked at the moment). PDP problem

Re: [PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Thomas Grill hat gesagt: // Thomas Grill wrote: what exactly is the difference of samm~ compared to the long time existing iem t3 objects? Which reminds me: Aren't the t3_* objects superfluous since we have vline~? I mean, instead of t3_bpe, t3_delay, t3_line~, t3_metro, t3_sig~ and

Re: [PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: I mean, instead of t3_bpe, t3_delay, t3_line~, t3_metro, t3_sig~ and t3_timer we could use vline~, delay, vline~, metro, vline~ and timer now and we would get exactly the same result except that t3 counts in samples Ah, sorry: t3

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Richard Lewis wrote: Hey there, I'm trying to use mp3cast~ with Icecast 1. stupid me, but why are you using icecast-1 instead of icecast-2 ? I tried altering the password in the icecast.conf file (which is very confusing and difficult on Debian) but it still doesn't like it. I wanted to

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
hello Richard On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 15:15 +, Richard Lewis wrote: Hey there, I'm trying to use mp3cast~ with Icecast 1. Initially I had a patch where the settings messages ('passwd', 'mountpoint', etc.) for the mp3cast~ were sent when the patch was loaded and the 'connect' and

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Lewis
On Monday 19 February 2007 16:03, you wrote: Richard Lewis wrote: Hey there, I'm trying to use mp3cast~ with Icecast 1. stupid me, but why are you using icecast-1 instead of icecast-2 ? Its another Debian problem: the icecast2 package in Debian is ogg only. i might be totally wrong

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Lewis
On Monday 19 February 2007 16:09, Roman Haefeli wrote: hello Richard On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 15:15 +, Richard Lewis wrote: Hey there, I'm trying to use mp3cast~ with Icecast 1. Initially I had a patch where the settings messages ('passwd', 'mountpoint', etc.) for the mp3cast~ were

Re: [PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: yes, iem_t3 is superfluous. however, it is still there for historical reasons (there are patches that depend on iem_t3) For example rrad.angriff~.pd ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_

Re: [PD] Creb and PDP libraries incomplete in 39 extended on MacIntel 10.4.8

2007-02-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes, I also cannot load all pdp objects with this release on my G4 PowerBook. ~Kyle On 2/19/07, Mark Pasquesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings. Below is cut from my PD window: I use - MAc OS 10.4.8, Intel minimac.1.83 duo. I have installed Dev tools, Fink and x11 to help me along the way.

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Richard Lewis wrote: On Monday 19 February 2007 16:09, Roman Haefeli wrote: -did you try to connect the client on the right port (e.g. http://yourhost.com:8080/yourstream.mp3 ) ? Yes, I keep checking this. Another things I might try is playing with the hostname setting in Icecast. Maybe

[PD] Using a Wind Controller with PD

2007-02-19 Thread Mike McGonagle
Hello Everyone, I have access to a Yamaha WX5 as a performance instrument, and was wondering if anyone is using one (or another wind controller) with PD. Can you offer any advice? Share patches? Thanks, Mike M -- Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! I place economy among the

Re: [PD] Creb and PDP libraries incomplete in 39 extended on MacIntel 10.4.8

2007-02-19 Thread Yves Degoyon
ola, err, of course, the pdp/pidip you found on my site was compiled for classical G3, Motorola based no intel Mac.. just, try the one which should be in hans's installers for Mac intel ( but i have no idea of the state of this actually ) suerte, sevy Mark Pasquesi wrote: Greetings. Below

[PD] art projects realized with PD:

2007-02-19 Thread Florian Grond
Dear list, During January and February 2007 I could present two media art projects here at the ZKM (center for art and media) www.zkm.de in Karlsruhe. Now the documentations of these presentations are online on my webpage. Both involve PD. The first installation Als Hilbert merkte, dass der

Re: [PD] mp3cast~ again

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Lewis
On Monday 19 February 2007 16:09, Roman Haefeli wrote: Richard Lewis wrote: On Monday 19 February 2007 16:09, Roman Haefeli wrote: -did you try to connect the client on the right port (e.g. http://yourhost.com:8080/yourstream.mp3 ) ? Yes, I keep checking this. Another things I might

[PD] Feature Requests for Google Summer of Code

2007-02-19 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Maybe some people can give more feature requests which could be implemented within the google summer of code project. So that in the end we might have something that someone (Hans, Miller, IEM ?) can propose to google. For pd-vanilla I guess it is hard to make proposals, because (as

[PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Lyon
With all this talk, it would be interesting to actually get a copy of these externals to try them out. Are these posted somewhere? Thanks, http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/Pd/ I haven't officially announced them yet since I've only compiled and tested on Macintosh (i86 and ppc)

[PD] looking for an example port of a max/msp external to flext

2007-02-19 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Hi all, Does anyone know of a simple external port example from Max/MSP into flext/Pd? It seems that this is not a very common route so I am looking for some preferably simple external for my student to be able to compare code in order to learn more about the process and ultimately figure out

[PD] Re: metro vs. samm~

2007-02-19 Thread schiemer
Eric, your presentation on this at ICMC was such a highlight. I'll contact you offline. Greg S. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] problem with pd installation in Debian (pdp and mp3 stuff)

2007-02-19 Thread Marco Trevisani
really sorry for duplicated messages i had a problem with the mailer and the first was shot... with no subject (not good for the archive) Hi everybody, i had to make an installation from scratch on a laptop. a clean debian, unstable installation. i ran into these two problems, the first

[PD] N/A

2007-02-19 Thread Marco Trevisani
Hi everybody, i had to make an installation from scratch on a laptop. a clean debian, unstable installation. i ran into these two problems, the first one regarding PDP: PDP INIT ERROR: pd symbol clash adding symbol pdp: new=b7d019f0 old=08244098 try loading pdp before other libraries (i

RE: [PD] looking for an example port of a max/msp external to flext

2007-02-19 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
I am aware of that but we are in a situation where we wish to port a Max/MSP external to PD and are opting to going with flext because if we do this, then the original maintainers won't have to deal with two different code bases and as such are more likely to opt for maintaining flext port

re: [PD] a little pitchshifter

2007-02-19 Thread robbert van hulzen
well then, thanks for doing my homework! ;) nice one. (i like how it gives a kind of flanger effect on the drum loop i tried it with, almost more like a filter, because of the high noise portion of the signal, i suppose.) cheers, robbert Thomas Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, after

Re: [PD] object box widths

2007-02-19 Thread robbert van hulzen
another thing you could use is '-': just add as many as you need to whatever creation args you have in the box already [ojb x ]. i suppose this is a dummy argument just like what derek suggested, but i find it easier to see that it doesn't do anything this way. robbert Item State [EMAIL

[PD] pduino set serial line device

2007-02-19 Thread media.gambler
hello list! i'm trying to get my arduino board to run with pd. i work on a g4 powerbook, OS 10.4.8 with the latest installer from hans, Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7. the arduino works fine with processing, the blinking led test file works, so i upload the pd_firmware. when i open the

Re: [PD] looking for an example port of a max/msp external to flext

2007-02-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In CVS: externals/io/wiiremote externals/io/hidio (pretty rough still) externals/boids externals/olafmatt/flashserver Those are all Max-Pd ports. .hc On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I am aware of that but we are in a situation where we wish to port a Max/MSP external

Re: [PD] pduino set serial line device

2007-02-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You need to connect to the serial line device that has usbserial in it. /dev/tty.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync seems to be a Bluetooth PDA. .hc On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:34 PM, media.gambler wrote: hello list! i'm trying to get my arduino board to run with pd. i work on a g4 powerbook, OS 10.4.8

Re: [PD] problem with pd installation in Debian (pdp and mp3 stuff)

2007-02-19 Thread marco trevisani
Thanks, i'll redirect this question to the pd-pdp and pd-unathorized debian maintnener to see what he thinks too. As for the first (pdp) then it possibly would be a bug for the debian maintener. If the pdp package appears in the unstable with pd 0.40 one could think that pdp is built against

[PD] sending a string to textfile

2007-02-19 Thread John Harrison
I have a very simple problem which I can't seem to figure out. I have a message coming in from a receive object as defined by the user. It is what I would consider a string. A typical example: The best song ever: #1 I want to write this to a text file. If the user sticks the word add in front

Re: [PD] sending a string to textfile

2007-02-19 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
John Harrison wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out how prepend the string with the word add to send the entire string to then send on to the textfile object. string | [list prepend add] | [list trim] | [textfile] Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

Re: [PD] sending a string to textfile

2007-02-19 Thread padawan12
[list prepend add] | [list trim] is probably what you want. On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:55:33 -0600 John Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very simple problem which I can't seem to figure out. I have a message coming in from a receive object as defined by the user. It is what I