[PD] Real-time frequency filtering and analysis

2007-03-27 Thread Jared
Summary: I'm interested in capturing audio through a microphone and, in real time, determining which frequency range (from a set range of frequencies) has the maximum level. This would be used to determine which note is loudest out three notes. More info: Hello! I was hoping to get some directi

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > Ideally, FTGL would be included in GemLibs since it's not included in > any of the package systems. i don't know which debian you are using, but at least since woody ftgl-dev is part of the distros that i have access to. (i noticed that ftgl-support is missi

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 10:50:11PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > You can embed Pd into a proprietary software > and apart from telling, that you did so, you have no further > obligations (that's why Max can use parts of Pd inside). With Csound > this is not allowed I must disagree with this; I t

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 08:37:46PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Was PD previously under GPL? No. > So after software has been released under a license, it is possible to > retroactively change the license? Sounds strange to me. If you are the copyright holder, you can do whatever you want. In

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread Andre Schmidt
Hi, i got a new job as osx admin (among others) for a while now, and we are using a particular font as "corporate design". so to ease my job for new osx clients, i made a .pkg that installs the fonts to /Library/Fonts. the fonts work rightaway without needing to restart or recache (just like windo

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Good point, Pd-extended is already using an installer on Windows, so it can just install the font in the proper location, %SYSTEMROOT%\Fonts That leaves Mac OS X, which is tricky since it needs to be inside the Mac OS X .app package. .hc On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:14 PM, David Powers wrote: > O

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 27, 2007, at 5:48 PM, chris clepper wrote: On 3/27/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: otoh, what do I have to do to get text3d running? marius. Text support needs freetype and FTGL. I recommend building both as static libs. Perhaps try this binary if you need somethin

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Cesare Marilungo
Martin Peach wrote: > Charles Henry wrote: > >> The sand still could be tricky... you would maybe have the individual >> particles at random locations, initially, and compute a gradient of >> the vibrations to determine movements. >> >> > When I saw the sand arranging itself I thought "c

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Martin Peach
Charles Henry wrote: > > The sand still could be tricky... you would maybe have the individual > particles at random locations, initially, and compute a gradient of > the vibrations to determine movements. > When I saw the sand arranging itself I thought "cellular automaton". Martin _

Re: [PD] Installing on Linux: i cant execute pd

2007-03-27 Thread padawan12
Try $ which pd If it says nothing then make install didn't work otherwise it should tell you where Pd lives. it may not be in /bin, in fact that's unlikely, it's more prolly in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:21:19 +0200 Javier García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > i d

Re: [PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 127

2007-03-27 Thread nanodust
Javier said: >i downloaded pd extended release 0.38.4. >I typed "make install" and and i didnt get any error. That's amazing >Now im trying to execute it from the terminal typing "pd" from /bin/ folder >but nothing happens... It doesn't give you any error output? Hard to help you if there are

[PD] patches/abstractions? [was: Berlin workshop]

2007-03-27 Thread Kevin McCoy
Hi Derek, I was wondering if you had gotten a chance to share any of those patches you used for this workshop? I hope I'm not pestering you by asking, and certainly no pressure - it just sounded like a really good time! I would love to hear the kind of stuff you guys were working with - I've neve

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Was PD previously under GPL? I published my Pd patch together with copies of Pd, zexy, cyclone, and toxy, and the only license file I could find in my Pd folder was GPL. I meant this in exactly the sense you are saying, but I wasn't aware Pd was under the Berkley License. So after software has be

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Charles Henry
> To me this whole idea seems rather difficult, if not impossible, to > implement. We are talking about interactions happening at the atomic > level of matter here. It's not really the atomic level that we have to implement. You can actually treat the material as continuous, and sampled at discre

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Charles Henry
On 3/27/07, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo, > padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: > > > Amazing idea for a project Carl. Yeah. Cool! > > > > The way I see it you have two routes. > > > > 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina > > and measure the

Re: [PD] Installing on Linux: i cant execute pd

2007-03-27 Thread Kevin McCoy
It will probably help to post the name of your linux distribution and what kind of machine you're running? Kevin On 3/27/07, Javier García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > i downloaded pd extended release 0.38.4. > > I typed "make install" and and i didnt get any error. > > Now im trying to e

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread marius schebella
well, that works. marius. chris clepper wrote: > On 3/27/07, *marius schebella* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > otoh, what do I have to do to get text3d running? > marius. > > > Text support needs freetype and FTGL. I recommend building both as > static

[PD] Some new [list]-abs: functional list processing

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, CVS just saw three new abstractions for the [list]-abs collection, that have been inspired by the functional programming functions map, reduce and filter, known from Python and elsewhere. I attached the patches to this mail as well. The basic idea of how to do this in Pd is by IOhannes and Th

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread David Powers
On Windows installing the font with a batch file would be trivial. If you made some file "Install.bat" it could copy the font to the correct directory, and also run the registry script you currently use, at the same time. ~David On 3/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > O

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread chris clepper
On 3/27/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: otoh, what do I have to do to get text3d running? marius. Text support needs freetype and FTGL. I recommend building both as static libs. Perhaps try this binary if you need something right away: http://gem.iem.at/download/SNAPSHOTS/

[PD] Installing on Linux: i cant execute pd

2007-03-27 Thread Javier García
Hi, i downloaded pd extended release 0.38.4. I typed "make install" and and i didnt get any error. Now im trying to execute it from the terminal typing "pd" from /bin/ folder but nothing happens... Neither clicking on the icon. you know? __

Re: [PD] oldschool rave synths

2007-03-27 Thread shift8
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 05:54 +, padawan12 wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:55:39 -0700 > shift8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "spore", not "seed" - sry :) > > > > looks like eno's doing a procedural / generative sound track for it! > > Yeah I checked that out. It's procedural music, basical

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread Bosko Milakovic
>From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >would be ok (for everybody, not just you) if the empty bang had to be >triggered separately (just like in [textfile])? > >e.g. [urn 3] >would output 3 random numbers; when banged a 4th time, it would (only) >output a bang at the right-hand side; w

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Cesare Marilungo
Cesare Marilungo wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: >> Hallo, >> padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: >> >> >>> Amazing idea for a project Carl. >>> >>> The way I see it you have two routes. >>> >>> 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina >>> and measure the amplitude at

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Cesare Marilungo
Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: > > >> Amazing idea for a project Carl. >> >> The way I see it you have two routes. >> >> 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina >> and measure the amplitude at many points on the surface. The sa

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 27, 2007, at 1:35 PM, marius schebella wrote: > Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: > >> I think the problem is, that extended-maintainer Hans-Christian >> doesnt have an Intel-Mac. > > Luigi, > > thanks for your encouraging words. I was talking to Hans, and the > problem is not so much the machine,

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 27, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Patco wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> The last step in sorting the cross-platform font issue is finding >> a way of including the font file for the Windows and Mac OS X >> packages. >> >> Anyone know how to make Tk look for fonts in a specific direc

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: > Amazing idea for a project Carl. > > The way I see it you have two routes. > > 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina > and measure the amplitude at many points on the surface. The sand > falls into minima nodes iirc . >

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > obviously, if it's described in the help-patch it has to behave like > that (that is why i don't describe features in the help-patches ;-)) > > would be ok (for everybody, not just you) if the empty bang had to be > triggered

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chuckk Hubbard hat gesagt: // Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > I believe Csound is under LGPL, and if I understand correctly the main > difference is that people who use parts of it in commercial > applications are not required to keep their source open. > Someone else will know better, but to my un

Re: [PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread padawan12
Amazing idea for a project Carl. The way I see it you have two routes. 1) Do a full finite element physical model of a circular lamina and measure the amplitude at many points on the surface. The sand falls into minima nodes iirc . 2) Cheat. Create the visuals by mapping the known standing wav

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread David Powers
On 3/27/07, adam armfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Something I feel very strongly about though, are > there > >still 'licensing issues' with Csound or has it shaken > >off > >all it's encumberances and become a totally free OS > >codebase? > -- > > i heard john ffitch (head

[PD] Cymatics/Chladni figures simulation

2007-03-27 Thread Carl Knott
I'd like to write a simulation of a Cymatic Tonoscope. I plan to create a physical model of a circular membrane, sand will be sprinkled on top of it. When a person speaks into a microphone the membrane will vibrate causing the sand to form standing wave patterns. Obviously this will be done in re

Re: [PD] ANN: pdmtl abstractions library 1.0

2007-03-27 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Thanks for this initiative! ~Kyle On 3/26/07, Alexandre Quessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > The Pure Data Montréal Abstractions library 1.0 is out ! Try it while > it is fresh. ;) > > See http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions for download and install > informations. It is in the pr

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread adam armfield
>Something I feel very strongly about though, are there >still 'licensing issues' with Csound or has it shaken >off >all it's encumberances and become a totally free OS >codebase? -- i heard john ffitch (head csound bloke, and a professor at bath uni) do a talk a couple of year

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread David Powers
On 3/27/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would be ok (for everybody, not just you) if the empty bang had to be > triggered separately (just like in [textfile])? > > e.g. [urn 3] > would output 3 random numbers; when banged a 4th time, it would (only) > output a bang at the right

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
padawan12 wrote: >> >> it would be interesting to know whether there are objections from other >> users of this object. > > I must say i rather like [urn] as it is. I agree that it's weird > to have the bang inserted into the random number stream when it > already has it's own specific outlet. w

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
I believe Csound is under LGPL, and if I understand correctly the main difference is that people who use parts of it in commercial applications are not required to keep their source open. Someone else will know better, but to my understanding that makes Csound more open than Pd. -Chuckk On 3/28/0

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread padawan12
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:14:17 +0200 IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bosko Milakovic wrote: > > Hi! > > > > >> are there any built-in objects that behave like you are expecting [urn] > >> to behave? (apart from outputting unique random numbers, that is) > > > > I expected to be l

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread padawan12
I'd love to hear work that comes out of a combination of Csound and Pd I think both are great, just different. Something I feel very strongly about though, are there still 'licensing issues' with Csound or has it shaken off all it's encumberances and become a totally free OS codebase? On Tue,

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Bosko Milakovic wrote: > Hi! > >> are there any built-in objects that behave like you are expecting [urn] >> to behave? (apart from outputting unique random numbers, that is) > > I expected to be like second outlet from textfile object: on the end of > sequence you get bang. That what I expecte

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread Bosko Milakovic
Hi! >From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Bosko Milakovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: pd-list@iem.at >Subject: Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug? >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:37:32 +0200 > >Bosko Milakovic wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have a question about Zexy (2.1) object urn. I think there is

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread marius schebella
Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: > I think the problem is, that extended-maintainer Hans-Christian > doesnt have an Intel-Mac. Luigi, thanks for your encouraging words. I was talking to Hans, and the problem is not so much the machine, but time. So he asked me to set up the autobuild process, but I

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 3/27/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > Pd people continue to ignore Csound, and Csound people continue to > > ignore Pd, despite the great power of combining them. I can't help > > feeling like this is a symptom of being more interested in some > > i

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
once a guy called pei posted his external on this list: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-01/025559.html i think, it is worth trying it. roman On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 08:34 -0700, Isidro Gonzalez wrote: > Hi. > I am looking for PD objects and/or abstractions > to do HRTF filtering

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread Patco
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > The last step in sorting the cross-platform font issue is finding a > way of including the font file for the Windows and Mac OS X packages. > > Anyone know how to make Tk look for fonts in a specific directory? > > .hc > I don't think you can't do this but it

Re: [PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Am 27.03.2007 um 17:53 schrieb marius schebella: > Hi, > has someone managed to get text3d working on osx tiger? > Now I am using pd-extended-0.39-2 and Gem has been compiled without > font > support. so I tried to compile my own pd-extended, but did not > succeed. > /usr/bin/libtool: interna

Re: [PD] multiple karplus-strong delays causing system to max out

2007-03-27 Thread Derek Holzer
I always thought only Pentium processors had this issue. My Athlon systems never got bogged down by denormals, running the same patches that killed my P4 in minutes. d. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > David McCarthy wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> I am trying to run 40 karplus-strong delays, 20ms max

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Bosko Milakovic wrote: > > I have a question about Zexy (2.1) object urn. I think there is a bug in > > the > > second outlet. In the help patch this is writen: > > > > "when all the numbers have been drawn from the pool, th

[PD] text3d and general pd compiling problems on OSX tiger

2007-03-27 Thread marius schebella
Hi, has someone managed to get text3d working on osx tiger? Now I am using pd-extended-0.39-2 and Gem has been compiled without font support. so I tried to compile my own pd-extended, but did not succeed. /usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed make[2]: *** [../bin/libPdTcl.dylib] Erro

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Pd people continue to ignore Csound, and Csound people continue to > ignore Pd, despite the great power of combining them. I can't help > feeling like this is a symptom of being more interested in some > intellectual problem than in using all of the available tools to make

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Pd people continue to ignore Csound, and Csound people continue to ignore Pd, despite the great power of combining them. I can't help feeling like this is a symptom of being more interested in some intellectual problem than in using all of the available tools to make music. Not seeing the forest

Re: [PD] multiple karplus-strong delays causing system to max out

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David McCarthy wrote: > Dear List, > > I am trying to run 40 karplus-strong delays, 20ms max long each, using > vd~ and delwrite~ with the (filter~ bpq $1 $2 1 1) modulating. > > My system is a 1.2GHz Athlon Win98SE 700MB Ram. > > Perhaps it cannot deal with 0.9 as the coefficient within

[PD] multiple karplus-strong delays causing system to max out

2007-03-27 Thread David McCarthy
Dear List, I am trying to run 40 karplus-strong delays, 20ms max long each, using vd~ and delwrite~ with the (filter~ bpq $1 $2 1 1) modulating. My system is a 1.2GHz Athlon Win98SE 700MB Ram. Perhaps it cannot deal with 0.9 as the coefficient within each infinite loop? Maybe I should put

Re: [PD] Zexy object urn bug?

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Bosko Milakovic wrote: > Hi! > > I have a question about Zexy (2.1) object urn. I think there is a bug in the > second outlet. In the help patch this is writen: > > "when all the numbers have been drawn from the pool, the system is reset > (the numbers are put back) and a bang is emitted via th

Re: [PD] [OT] beta testers sought for new patching thingy

2007-03-27 Thread bigswift
yo dogg how you been? i am not good at js but i am willling to test. http://www.myspace.com/humansneedlumens pat Bill Orcutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry for the intrusion- > > i've been working on an open-source max/pd/ type patching program > that runs in a web browser- i'

Re: [PD] Audio drops when using readsf~ with large sound files

2007-03-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:02 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > david lemarechal wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > I have to play simultaneously 8 large soundfile (about 30min at > > 44,1kHz/16bit, e.g. about 70 Mb each in wav format) on 8 different outputs. > > > > I use readsf~ on Windows but audio d

Re: [PD] Audio drops when using readsf~ with large sound files

2007-03-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
david lemarechal wrote: > Hi List, > > I have to play simultaneously 8 large soundfile (about 30min at > 44,1kHz/16bit, e.g. about 70 Mb each in wav format) on 8 different outputs. > > I use readsf~ on Windows but audio drops out at every disk access (when > the Disk Acess LED of my laptop blinks

[PD] Audio drops when using readsf~ with large sound files

2007-03-27 Thread david lemarechal
Hi List, I have to play simultaneously 8 large soundfile (about 30min at 44,1kHz/16bit, e.g. about 70 Mb each in wav format) on 8 different outputs. I use readsf~ on Windows but audio drops out at every disk access (when the Disk Acess LED of my laptop blinks), and of course this occurs very

Re: [PD] [sqosc~]-issues

2007-03-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 01:37 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: > After having done lots of work with recursive feedback structures in PD > using delays and filters, I can positively say that PD (rather then > Jack) is making the problem in every one of my cases. YMMV. But for me, > it always happens whe

Re: [PD] HRTF

2007-03-27 Thread Piotr Majdak
Hi! Isidro Gonzalez wrote: > Hi. > I am looking for PD objects and/or abstractions > to do HRTF filtering. > Any ideas on where to get them? Take two FIR~s (from IEMlib, one for each ear), load the head related impulse responses as filters in the tables and filter a monaural signal. The only pr