Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Matt Barber
Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that'right, hmm I guess I knew that but said it in a woolly way Amend that to [tabread~] - play back at exactly the original rate [tabread4~] - play back at close to the

[PD] getting started with webcam/pdp

2008-06-24 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi I run linux (ubuntu 7.10) and pd-extended installed from Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb I have some experience with pd, but none with video. I hooked up my phillips webcam and dmesg tels me it's connected to /dev/video0. Skype shows video from this device just fine. However I

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: All of that said, I think something like the [sampler~] object proposed in another post would be much in keeping with the user-friendly filter objects like [bp~] (as opposed to [rpole~] and [rzero~] which are the real building block kinds

Re: [PD] read a pixel value

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Hi list, I need to use a bmp file as a score, and I need to read a pixel value from a bmp file. I've been looking for an object that can do that, but I haven't found it yet, do you know a way to do that?, maybe with gem? [pix_data] fgamsdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] GEM pix_buffer question

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: My guess is because pix_buffer stores uncompressed frames, which are much bigger. But I could be wrong. you could store the pixes in YUV-format, which will double the amount of images you can store in a given memory (the default is RGBA) (either send the

Re: [PD] getting started with webcam/pdp

2008-06-24 Thread Husk 00
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Atte André Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I run linux (ubuntu 7.10) and pd-extended installed from Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb I have some experience with pd, but none with video. I hooked up my phillips webcam and dmesg tels me it's

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tabread4~ isn't such a great name that it should be used for the new one. hmm, from my elitist point of view, [tabread4~] tells me something about how this object works (its reading a table using 4 point interpolation) rather than [tabread_tweak~] which tells

Re: [PD] Installing Extended on Ubuntu/Debian [WAS: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS Manual]

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Derek Holzer wrote: Hi IOhannes, just getting back around to these edits.. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Installing: i find it highly confusing that the Installing Pure Data on Debian (and ubuntu) does not mention in a single word that you could just run aptitude install puredata

Re: [PD] Installing Extended on Ubuntu/Debian [WAS: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS Manual]

2008-06-24 Thread Derek Holzer
Hey IOhannes, last night I already changed the InstallingOSX page to be like the others, however I'm having trouble getting it published. In the next day or so it should get sorted out, and then it will be very clear that the focus is Pd-Extended for all platforms. best! D. IOhannes m

Re: [PD] PD with Eucon Ethernet Protocol?

2008-06-24 Thread simon kilshaw
Hey, I'm looking to buy the euphonix controllers. (http://www.euphonix.com/artist/index.php) No midi implementation on it by the looks of things (its a DAW controller really)- it seems to communicate through the ethernet port. Anyone know if I could access any data from it in PD? All the best-

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended user prefs locations

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/pdsettings .hc On Jun 24, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi HC or somebody else that knows this offhand, I know this has been a big subject of debate on the list this month, so I'll keep this short and simple: Where are the current user preferences

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:36 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tabread4~ isn't such a great name that it should be used for the new one. hmm, from my elitist point of view, [tabread4~] tells me something about how this object works (its reading a table using 4

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Matt Barber wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that'right, hmm I guess I knew that but said it in a woolly way Amend that to [tabread~] - play back at exactly the

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 4 stands for 4-point interpolation, that is true. But there are many algorithms for 4-point interpolation, as this thread as laid bare. tabread4~ could also describe something that reads 4 values and averages them, it could also be the 4th version of

Re: [PD] getting started with webcam/pdp

2008-06-24 Thread Atte André Jensen
Husk 00 wrote: Probally you have a webcam that use video4linux2 protocol, so you have to use pdp_v4l2. Ok. My device indeed seems to be a version 2 camera, since this shows up in dmesg after inserting the camera: [ 4305.015145] Linux video capture interface: v2.00 [ 4305.080752] pwc:

[PD] array save contents problem

2008-06-24 Thread Georg Werner
Hi, what am i doing wrong? i put a table in a patch. went to the properties dialog of the inner array and activated save contents then clicked ok. changed the data in the array. saved the whole patch. closed it. opened it again - but there is no data in the array :( even the save contents is

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended user prefs locations

2008-06-24 Thread Derek Holzer
Rockin'! Thx! d. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/pdsettings .hc On Jun 24, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi HC or somebody else that knows this offhand, I know this has been a big subject of debate on the list this month, so I'll keep this short

Re: [PD] array save contents problem

2008-06-24 Thread hard off
so, you created it as [table] ? as far as i can tell, it's a bug that you even get a 'save contents' dialogue if you do that, because the contents will not be saved. go into the menu at the top and use put-array you can then disable the array's GOP capability if you want to save cpu, but the

Re: [PD] array save contents problem

2008-06-24 Thread Georg Werner
thanks, i thought a table is something like a subpatch with an array inside. g. hard off schrieb: so, you created it as [table] ? as far as i can tell, it's a bug that you even get a 'save contents' dialogue if you do that, because the contents will not be saved. go into the menu at the

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: true that 4 doesn't say much about the interpolation alogrithm and that is definitely a weakness in the current naming scheme. Well, I'd have expected 4 to be a cubic spline algorithm, because it uses a sliding window of 4 samples, polynomial

Re: [PD] array save contents problem

2008-06-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Georg Werner hat gesagt: // Georg Werner wrote: thanks, i thought a table is something like a subpatch with an array inside. Somehow, but then not: It's also just an object box (or box object), and as practically all other object boxes in Pd, the arguments to it specify its behaviour

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Matt Barber wrote: [tabread_tweak~] [tabread_transpose~] I really hate to be a fart on this one You should love it, if you intend it for the good of pd. 2) I tend to greatly prefer object names which say what the object does, not what it is for, This is one of the

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 4 stands for 4-point interpolation, that is true. But there are many algorithms for 4-point interpolation, as this thread as laid bare. tabread4~ could also describe something that reads 4 values and averages

Re: [PD] extended and load file | gem pix_record and libquicktime

2008-06-24 Thread Vincent Rioux
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : By the way, this should be fixed to make more sense in the latest builds: - default saveas folder is PWD on GNU/Linux and Windows - default saveas folder is Home folder (~/) on Mac OSX - new patches default to the folder last saved in .hc great, thanks a

Re: [PD] getting started with webcam/pdp

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 24, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Atte André Jensen wrote: Husk 00 wrote: Probally you have a webcam that use video4linux2 protocol, so you have to use pdp_v4l2. Ok. My device indeed seems to be a version 2 camera, since this shows up in dmesg after inserting the camera: [

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Steffen Juul
On 24/06/2008, at 12.17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Feel free to critique my suggestions, but it isn't really productive until there are suggestions for how to do it differently, rather than merely saying my suggestion is bad. Depends on what it is to be different from. If it is to be

Re: [PD] extended and load file | gem pix_record and libquicktime

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds like it is worth making a bug report to the gem tracker. .hc On Jun 24, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Vincent Rioux wrote: great, thanks a lot Hans! btw it gave me the occasion to rebuild pd and some extensions from source on hardy... Actually i am having troubles with Gem, pix_record and

Re: [PD] read a pixel value

2008-06-24 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Hi list, I need to use a bmp file as a score, and I need to read a pixel value from a bmp file. I've been looking for an object that can do that, but I haven't found it yet, do you know a way to do that?, maybe with gem? gridflow/examples/photo_pianoroll.pd

Re: [PD] read a pixel value

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: I've been looking for an object that can do that, but I haven't found it yet, do you know a way to do that?, maybe with gem? gridflow/examples/photo_pianoroll.pd and generally speaking, [#store] is the equivalent of [pix_data]. You send to it

[PD] Pd FLOSS Manual: ConfiguringPD

2008-06-24 Thread Derek Holzer
Dear list, I've just updated the chapter on configuring Pd for the Pd FLOSS Manual. If you have a second, please take a look and see if everything is clear (and correct!). Also, I'd like to ask a Windows user to upload a screenshot (max width=600 pixels) of using REGEDIT.EXE to edit the

[PD] [PD-announce] Pduino 0.4 beta0 released

2008-06-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html You can read all about the protocol design here: http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Interfacing/Firmata Here are some key changes: - updated to use Firmata 2.0 protocol - Firmata is now an Arduino library - a number of included firmwares to support things

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Charles Henry
I disagree entirely with the trend of this discussion towards naming or methods to choose an interpolation method. We need not get ahead of ourselves, when we don't even know if it's a better tabread (like the name of this discussion). Let's make sure this thing is solid and finds good usage

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
bsoisoi wrote: I agree, being able to specify interpolation via an inlet message would be great (from my users perspective). hmm, i am not totally convinced (but actually don't care) as this leads to bloated objects which can just do everything and you specify what they should do via

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Brandon Zeeb
Excellent point, don't listen to me! :) From your example, I'm assuming you're hinting at including the ability in this abstraction to switch interpolation schemes by enabling/disabling sub-patched tabread~, tabread4~, and tabread4c~ objects via inlet messages or creation arguments. In

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hmm, i am not totally convinced (but actually don't care) as this leads to bloated objects which can just do everything and you specify what they should do via parameters. why do we have objects then? Objects and classes also have other benefits

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Charles Henry wrote: I see no problem with shortening the names, because it's not practical to name these things concisely, e.g. tabread4_continuous_first_derivative~ or tabread4_anti_aliasing~ continuous first derivative is listed as continuously differentiable in the

Re: [PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble)

2008-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: and then class-lookup is method-lookup in pd, because it's done through [objectmaker]'s method-list. Do you have a reference in the Pd