Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 08/26/2011 02:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: Yeah and afaiu this is exactly the job that HC just started (see his announcement below). Yvan: in my simple understanding it goes like this: 1. getting rid of tcl-specific code in pd c core 2. minimizing the communication between the core and the

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/26/2011 01:04 AM, yvan volochine wrote: yeah, ALT+H Alt-H?? all systems i know use F1 for help, except apple which uses Cmd-? on a (keyboard) selected object would open its help file.. that would be sweet =) esp. when doing Ctrl-a, F1 fgmadr IOhannes signature.asc Description:

Re: [PD] multichannel instalation

2011-08-26 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/25/2011 09:14 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: just curious... channels; in the meantime, we regularily use Pd with 64 channels output; this is of course with some super soundcard, whats the hardware for this? RME hdsp madi [1] mfgasdr IOhannes [1]

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 08/26/2011 10:37 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:04 AM, yvan volochine wrote: yeah, ALT+H Alt-H?? all systems i know use F1 for help, except apple which uses Cmd-? whatever shortcut is fine, the point is not having to use the mouse. on a (keyboard) selected object would

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Joe White
sense than spending time hacking on and on tcl-tk code ? my 0.001$ _y -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20110826/50b07947/attachment-0001.htm

Re: [PD] receiving messages in [expr] ?

2011-08-26 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 26.08.2011 um 04:06 schrieb Chris McCormick: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:20:47PM +0200, Thomas Grill wrote: Am 25.08.2011 um 19:40 schrieb Andrew Faraday: you can't hear noise against noise :p Interesting - but then again, what is noise?

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner On 08/26/2011 10:37 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:04 AM, yvan volochine wrote:

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner On 08/26/2011 10:37 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:04 AM, yvan volochine wrote:

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
It might be a good idea to list the problems with tcl/tk so we can weigh them against the difficulty of using a different GUI toolkit.  The problems I see are: * difficult to implement a decent zoom function for a canvas * can't display png without the Img library (included in 8.6) * can't do

[PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32 (installer zip), for the brave and adventurous there is the source code.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Pagano, Patrick
FreiOr SUPPORT!!! Massive WIN I assume that this is for linux/OSX? Or do you have frei0r working on WIN? This is very cool pp On 8/26/11 12:20 PM, IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 08/26/2011 04:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: yeah, ALT+H Alt-H?? all systems i know use F1 for help, except apple which uses Cmd-? On most of the software I've used F1 is a shortcut for general help for the program-- not for specific results based on what happens to be selected

Re: [PD] [Pdmtl] Understanding Visual Music (Montreal tomorrow!!!) - Final Program

2011-08-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Understanding VISUAL Music 2011 Hexagram-Concordia Centre for Research Creation in Media Arts and Technologies in collaboration with the Department of Music CONCORDIA UNIVERSITY Montreal - Canada August 26th and 27th, 2011 http://uvm2011.hexagram.ca/

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread cyrille henry
cool c Le 26/08/2011 18:20, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 08/26/2011 06:20 PM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! nice, congrats ! cheers, _y

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 08/26/2011 05:31 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It might be a good idea to list the problems with tcl/tk so we can weigh them against the difficulty of using a different GUI toolkit. The problems I see are: * difficult to implement a decent zoom function for a canvas * can't display png

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: yvan volochine yvan...@googlemail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets On 08/26/2011 05:31 PM, Jonathan

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Jack
Le 26/08/2011 18:20, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32 (installer zip), for

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Martin Peach
On 2011-08-26 11:31, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It might be a good idea to list the problems with tcl/tk so we can weigh them against the difficulty of using a different GUI toolkit. The problems I see are: * difficult to implement a decent zoom function for a canvas * can't display png without the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Sounds great, gonna grab it now! thanks for your work! M p.s. brilliant to see Jaime's object embed in Gem :) 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets On 2011-08-26 11:31, Jonathan Wilkes

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien
great ! thanks a lot !! jm Le 26 août 11 à 18:20, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Thanks for all the hard work on this! 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread João Pais
tcl/tk behaves very slowly for fast calls, such as when dragging an array of considerable size, or a big group of objects? afaik this is something that could be improved in the present platform, but how better could it be when using another gui framework? It might be a good idea to list

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread pierre
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:20:06 +0200, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! Bravo ! many thanks for the (big) work

[PD] Announcing CouchPdb development

2011-08-26 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hello, inspired by the great effort of Louis-Philippe with Puredis, I have started developping a library for another of the NoSQL databases out there, CouchDB. CouchDB is a database with a RESTful interface, i.e. you connect to the database with HTTP requests and depending on the HTTP method you

Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin

2011-08-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
cool... like this ...thanks Hans! On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Thanks for the bug report.  This version should fix that: .hc On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Roviriego wrote: forgot to mention the arrowheads are working, besides the error

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Olivier B
Thanks a lot... 01ivier 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Ed Kelly
Thanks IO-hannes. Keep up the good work. 10. check out gemnotes 20. is the text3d object faster 30. goto Graz Ed   Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data http://sharktracks.co.uk/ From: IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-annou...@iem.at Sent:

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Richie Cyngler
Another big ups! Thanks for all the hard work =) On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Olivier B lamouraupeu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot... 01ivier 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released

Re: [PD] multichannel instalation

2011-08-26 Thread Richie Cyngler
64 channels I am drooling with the possibilities. 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 08/25/2011 09:14 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: just curious... channels; in the meantime, we regularily use Pd with 64 channels output; this is of course with some super soundcard,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Jaime Oliver
Thanks IOhannes! I'll drink to it! J On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:20 PM, IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better

[PD] Fwd: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread palmieri, ricardo
-- Forwarded message -- From: palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.com Date: 2011/8/26 Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0 To: Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com +1 thanks a lot iohannes! lets test it! cheers. palm 2011/8/26 Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com

Re: [PD] programming messages

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, Look in doc/manuals/pd-msg.  Specifically, a good cheat sheet is: doc/manuals/pd-msg/1.msg_and_patch You can also see them go by in a terminal window if you start pd with the flag: -d 2 Just ignore the tcl canvas id at the beginning of the message-- everything following it should

Re: [PD] programming messages

2011-08-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: For example, I know how to let PD to create file and open new canvas - it is by this message: [ ; pd filename mon-nouveau-patch.pd /tmp; #N canvas; #X pop 1; ( c'est tout simplement ; pd open mon-nouveau-patch.pd /tmp mais ce qui est emmerdant,

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Patrice Colet
- João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com a écrit : tcl/tk behaves very slowly for fast calls, such as when dragging an array of considerable size, or a big group of objects? afaik this is something that could be improved in the present platform, but how better could it be when using

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread Husk 00
2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. Today is a good day indeed! thanks so much husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:04 AM, yvan volochine wrote: yeah, ALT+H Alt-H?? all systems i know use F1 for help, except apple which uses Cmd-? WordPerfect for DOS used F3 for help. I'm pretty sure I encountered a programme that put help on Ctrl+F5 or

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread William Brent
Congratulations more thanks for your work... 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience!

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com; Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets -

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com To: Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com; João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:04

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread erich
hi iohannes, thx for all the work! cheers erich On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 18:20 +0200, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better