Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-31 Thread Miller Puckette
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:46:54AM +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi Miller, On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:21:29PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: belated response... how about 'list tosymbol' and 'list fromsymbol'? I.e. 98 97 116 - bat - 98 97 116 I don't think this would

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Miller Puckette wrote: My idea is that, once this is in Pd vanilla, the 2/3 - 2 3 type of split is easy enough to program in an abstraction, But then, would you enjoy making such an abstraction ? ___ |

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-31 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:19:46PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: I am in favour of having that functionality as part of [list] and those names look good to me. For the functionality you describe maybe something like [list ascii2symbol] and [list symbol2ascii]? Those would also be pretty

Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx To: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text file On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:19:46PM

Re: [PD] Ot: Repetition of short patterns

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Adam, i guess that topic would be more appropriate for the MUSIC-IR list. You might want to try there. gr~~~ Am 31.08.2011 um 03:50 schrieb adam sanches: Hi, i was wondering if there are any psychoacustic studies related to repetition of short patterns. Do you know any autor, text or

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
I think it's much simpler to just add a call to get/set the message limit, say: int libpd_max_message_length(); void libpd_set_max_message_length(int length); This doesn't break any current code. Having to set a custom limit each time is far more tedious then just setting it at startup. On

Re: [PD] Ot: Repetition of short patterns

2011-08-31 Thread Andy Farnell
There are many. Short patterns are the probe of choice for experiments to map aural cognitive abilities. See all these Van Noorden - streaming integration Reiss Jones and Yee - attending Crowder - memory Bigand - segmentation Warren - order, length, integrative perception Bregman - scene

Re: [PD] getting console output when Pd crashes on w32 (was Re: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1)

2011-08-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-31 13:15, bra...@subnet.at wrote: maybe an idea where to start? well, start form your patch and remove everything that is not Gem. then copy everything left into a flat patch. then remove entire gemchains until only the one that causes

Re: [PD] getting console output when Pd crashes on w32

2011-08-31 Thread brandt
oohothis may take some time i fear Zitat von IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-31 13:15, bra...@subnet.at wrote: maybe an idea where to start? well, start form your patch and remove everything that is not Gem. then copy

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:19 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-08-29 11:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's much simpler to just add a call to get/set the message limit, say: int libpd_max_message_length(); void libpd_set_max_message_length(int length); This doesn't break any current code. Having to set a

Re: [PD] receiving messages in [expr] ?

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Zacherl.
Hi Jonathan, yeah, tables would work, I easily could keep them local any refer to the respective indices. But then again, despite what IOhannes pointed out (and I still agree with him) I like the idea of using [value]s since I could use self explaining names, which would make the mess, in this

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
I love this ... does anyone want an equivalent for iOS / desktop Oses ... ? That's essentially what I'm working on but hadn't thought of using the netlist to build the GUI. This is an awesome idea. On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:12 PM,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-31 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I cannot seem to get it to run. I get some funky errors and then either pd will quit or it will not load Gem. I assume some things need to be ironed out. I also posted to the frei0r-devel list hoping that we may get usable frei0r plugins for OSX. Currently it seems like the autobuilds are offline

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:19 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-08-29 11:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the

Re: [PD] Ot: Repetition of short patterns

2011-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Diana Deutsch is another good source. She has papers and a textbook, Psychology of Music. From what I know the academic tome is Bregman's Auditory Scene Analysis. There are a couple of illustrations included in Pd-extended, Help Browser - Manuals - Cognition. They are kind of rough.

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi Pierre, On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:32:31AM +0200, Pierre Massat wrote: Now regarding my use of Pd in Android. I don't need to do anything fancy, all i'd like to develop for now is a small 2 or 4-track recorder, to help me work on my

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
its seems to be a DNS problem. You can get it here: http://128.238.56.50 On Aug 31, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: I cannot seem to get it to run. I get some funky errors and then either pd will quit or it will not load Gem. I assume some things need to be ironed out. I also

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Peter Brinkmann peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread Pierre Massat
Yes, this seems way more simple to me! Ok, now i guess i need to get a smartphone. :P Thanks! Pierre 2011/8/31 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi Pierre, On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:32:31AM +0200, Pierre Massat wrote: Now

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's much simpler to just add a call to get/set the message limit, say: int

[PD] Balloon Project

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD: http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/ Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread athos bacchiocchi
2011/8/31 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx As Michael Noble mentioned, I really think PdDroidParty could help you here. hey, that's really nice, thanks for sharing! I'm thinkering with it, is there a way to get data from the phone's accelerometer? athos

[PD] multiple instances of the same dynamic abstraction?

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Zacherl.
Hi, I'm currently experimenting with dynamic patching, sending mgs to cnvs etc. One obvious question is, how to address a dynamic abstraction when having multiple instances of it in a main patch. Is there a way around this? Besides that any msg to the cnv hits all occurrences of that particular

Re: [PD] multiple instances of the same dynamic abstraction?

2011-08-31 Thread tim vets
2011/8/31 Michael Zacherl. sdiy-m...@blauwurf.info Hi, I'm currently experimenting with dynamic patching, sending mgs to cnvs etc. One obvious question is, how to address a dynamic abstraction when having multiple instances of it in a main patch. Is there a way around this? Besides that

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's much simpler to just add a call to get/set the message limit, say: int libpd_max_message_length(); void libpd_set_max_message_length(int length);

[PD] Problem with lists and data

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hi there, while developping my CouchPdb library I came up with the following problem: I put out lists like this: list _id 1 list pitch 440 Now I am trying to get the values for _id and pitch as floats, but that does not seem to work: [couchdb] | [list trim] | [route _id pitch] \ | \

[PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Tyler Leavitt
Hello list, I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list. Specifically, I seek to control the location of the printer needle(?) that

Re: [PD] Balloon Project

2011-08-31 Thread ALAN BROOKER
3 cool! On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD: http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/ Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread berenger recoules
I think that it's not possible at the moment, but Chris mentionned a todolist :) so i guess it will be possible. There's already plenty to test out. @Dan : yes I want an equivalent for iphone ! I guess many other people would, please keep us posted on your work. I was asking Chris if I was

Re: [PD] Balloon Project

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Mayer
On 31.08.2011 17:59, Dan Wilcox wrote: Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD: http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/ Great! Although ... I have some personal problems listening to Nena. Too many bad memories associated with the woman. Best regards,

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Martin
Well there are many kinds of printer, so the answer is 'maybe'. For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection. If you have that you can program the head to go wherever you like. Otherwise I just rip them open and keep only the rail mechanism and the stepper motor that drives

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote: I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the list. If using a Parallel Port (LPT) interface

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-31 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Hey when I run the latest build I get /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/.. /extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/Scr ipts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Tyler Leavitt wrote: I was curious if anybody has dabbled in controlling a printer through pd. I'm waiting for a cheap one to arrive at the local second-hand store, so while I wait to attempt it myself I thought I'd ask the

Re: [PD] Problem with lists and data

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org To: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:28 PM Subject: [PD] Problem with lists and data Hi there, while developping my CouchPdb library I came up with the following problem: I

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote: For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection. I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial connection. For use with the Color Computer, I had a DIN4 serial port (RS232) connected to a box that would reframe the data in 8-bit

Re: [PD] Problem with lists and data

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Mayer
On 31.08.2011 23:19, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: That probably means you're formatting that part of your list as symbol-atom '1' instead of float-atom '1'. Thus, the [route] object is outputting symbol-atom '1', which is just a message where the selector is the symbol-atom '1'. The right inlet of

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-31 Thread mark edward grimm
hello i am getting something similar with Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app (my first attempt with Pd-0.43.1-extended). for me though, when clicking on the App icon the PD window briefly appears and the PD dispersal. I then removed the Gem folder from extra in the Package and PD-Extended-0.43.1

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Peach
On 2011-08-31 17:56, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote: For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection. I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial connection. For use with the Color Computer, I had a DIN4 serial port (RS232) connected to a box

Re: [PD] Balloon Project

2011-08-31 Thread Richie Cyngler
I'm a fan! But perhaps you need a bigger fan? On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote: On 31.08.2011 17:59, Dan Wilcox wrote: Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD: http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/ Great!

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-31 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:59:39PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I always had the feeling, that on OS X on MacBooks (Pro) the sound coming from the speakers is heavily processed. Audio sounds a lot 'punchier' than for example the same

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-31 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi, On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 06:00:12PM +0200, athos bacchiocchi wrote: 2011/8/31 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx As Michael Noble mentioned, I really think PdDroidParty could help you here. hey, that's really nice, thanks for sharing! I'm thinkering with it, is there a way to get

Re: [PD] multiple instances of the same dynamic abstraction?

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here are some revisions. cnv-adr-testmain-rev-normal.pd: Here I avoid dynamic patching altogether, because it's not necessary for the behavior your trying to get in the abstraction. cnv-adr-testmain-rev-dyn.pd: Here I added [namecanvas $0-cnv] and sent to that instead of the abstraction name. 

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Wilcox
How about this? http://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Centronics-CN36-Printer/dp/B000I996M6 On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Martin wrote: For me the best are the old dot-matrix with the serial connection. I've never seen an old dot-matrix with a serial

Re: [PD] Controlling a Printer

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Dan Wilcox wrote: How about this? http://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Centronics-CN36-Printer/dp/B000I996M6 What does it appear as in the computer ? I bet that you can't use [comport] with that... you'll need [parallel_port] (or [parapin])... if you have the driver for

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Chris McCormick wrote: Is this true of the iOS devices too? I always got the impression there was some mad compression going on there. I could just imagine Steve Jobs issuing a directive: My favorite crunk mp3s do not POP enough. Make everything POP more immediately. The

Re: [PD] multiple instances of the same dynamic abstraction?

2011-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Michael Zacherl. wrote: One obvious question is, how to address a dynamic abstraction when having multiple instances of it in a main patch. Is there a way around this? Use [namecanvas], which is not obsolete, despite what Miller says. for example, [namecanvas $0-canvas]